One thing to remember is in a HT setup, the center channel is probably your most important speaker, not the subwoofer. You should definitely not skimp on the center channel.
Originally posted by: Howard
I know, but dipole bass, though superior to monopole bass, cannot reproduce the same SPL. That's why it's much more suitable for music than for HT, and why I didn't recommend it initially.Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Howard
Well... music and HT are different animals. I would have put more money into the sub since for music you only need 2 speakers.Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Howard
If he was going for a pure music setup, I would have definitely recommended 2 x (2 x 15") 15" drivers in W-baffles for sweet musical stereo dipole bass bliss.Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Howard
http://www.rootminus1.com/howard/pics/dayton3pt4ft21hzventedGD.gifOriginally posted by: Excelsior
Given the same F3, a vented box drops off faster than a sealed one does. Of course, that doesn't really help the case of the sealed sub if the same driver has an F3 of 16.5Hz when vented, as opposed to an F3 of 41Hz when sealed. But group delay goes massive...
Modeling (sealed 4ft^3 vs vented 6ft^3 tuned to 17Hz):
http://www.rootminus1.com/howard/pics/comparesealedvsventedtransferfunc.gif
http://www.rootminus1.com/howard/pics/comparesealedvsventedmaxspl.gif
http://www.rootminus1.com/howard/pics/comparesealedvsventedgroupdelay.gif
Is the group delay audible? I don't know. It might be.
I believe that the recommended design for this driver is 3.4 cuft, tuned to 21 Hz. This greatly reduces group delay.
Well, it's better. Output under 20Hz is worse, but I suppose you can't expect too much out of a 12".
Aye. Seems to me that most DIYers (for HT use anyway) use 15 inchers.
Yet for a HT setup you recommended a single sealed 12".
Besides, I think he would be satisfied with the sealed 12".
Indeed they are, but in many cases, a single well designed sub can handle both duties quite admirably.
IMO, a HT sub is just as important as a music sub. If anything, it is more important since their is usually much deeper bass in movies than in music and action sequences, bass for dramatic effect and the such are very critical to the listening experience.
If only it were cheaper...A ported 15" sub using this driver would be most excellent for HT use (as well as for music).
Funny thing is, you don't even need one.Originally posted by: Doggiedog
One thing to remember is in a HT setup, the center channel is probably your most important speaker, not the subwoofer. You should definitely not skimp on the center channel.
Originally posted by: Howard
Funny thing is, you don't even need one.Originally posted by: Doggiedog
One thing to remember is in a HT setup, the center channel is probably your most important speaker, not the subwoofer. You should definitely not skimp on the center channel.
Basically.Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: Howard
Funny thing is, you don't even need one.Originally posted by: Doggiedog
One thing to remember is in a HT setup, the center channel is probably your most important speaker, not the subwoofer. You should definitely not skimp on the center channel.
phantom mode?
Originally posted by: Howard
Basically.Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: Howard
Funny thing is, you don't even need one.Originally posted by: Doggiedog
One thing to remember is in a HT setup, the center channel is probably your most important speaker, not the subwoofer. You should definitely not skimp on the center channel.
phantom mode?
Oh please, don't make it sound like a rarity.Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Howard
Basically.Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: Howard
Funny thing is, you don't even need one.Originally posted by: Doggiedog
One thing to remember is in a HT setup, the center channel is probably your most important speaker, not the subwoofer. You should definitely not skimp on the center channel.
phantom mode?
I actually agree with Howard on this.
Originally posted by: Howard
Oh please, don't make it sound like a rarity.Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Howard
Basically.Originally posted by: InlineFour
Originally posted by: Howard
Funny thing is, you don't even need one.Originally posted by: Doggiedog
One thing to remember is in a HT setup, the center channel is probably your most important speaker, not the subwoofer. You should definitely not skimp on the center channel.
phantom mode?
I actually agree with Howard on this.