What's your problem with homeschooling? Why do you want everyone to be in a public school?Great! Most home schooling initiatives would fail then.
I have no problem. We agree that home schools should be audited by the state to make sure they conform to standards. Right?What's your problem with homeschooling? Why do you want everyone to be in a public school?
What standards specifically?I have no problem. We agree that home schools should be audited by the state to make sure they conform to standards. Right?
The same standards as all other schools.What standards specifically?
That would be better. Currently homeschooling families must higher a NH certified teacher to admin the two required state test on Academics, but this usually takes place at the child's home. (unless it's changed recently).I agree but then no public money should go to home schooling and only a GED can be given provided the student takes the test at the same location anyone else would (as in not their house).
Are you saying they can't just get a GED through whatever the standard process is in your state, or is this scenario specific to those who want a "high school diploma" fearing a negative perception of a GED versus a standard diploma? My kid was technically homeschooled (we used a couple online schools) for his last two years of HS, and then got a GED from the same location in town anyone else getting a GED would have.That would be better. Currently homeschooling families must higher a NH certified teacher to admin the two required state test on Academics, but this usually takes place at the child's home. (unless it's changed recently).
Are you saying they can't just get a GED through whatever the standard process is in your state, or is this scenario specific to those who want a "high school diploma" fearing a negative perception of a GED versus a standard diploma? My kid was technically homeschooled (we used a couple online schools) for his last two years of HS, and then got a GED from the same location in town anyone else getting a GED would have.
| Public/Private School | Homeschool | |
|---|---|---|
| New Hampshire diploma requirements | Students must complete 20 credit hours in English, mathematics, science, US and NH history and government, Economics, World History or Geography, Health, Physical Education, Art, Information and Communications Technology, and 6 credits in electives. | Parents determine when their student has fulfilled graduation requirements and can issue their own homeschool diploma; students of private/online schools may receive diplomas from those institutions. |
| New Hampshire high school testing requirements** | 11th graders take the College Board School Day SAT and the NH SAS for science. | Homeschool students are not subject to testing requirements for graduation. |
| New Hampshire high school transcripts | Complete a transcript request form and mail to the NHDE. Fee is $20 per transcript. | Homeschool parents may create their own student transcripts, and may include any information they deem pertinent to colleges, military, and/or future workplace organizations. |
| New Hampshire high school course credits | Students must complete 20 credit hours: 4 English, 3 math, 2 science, 2 history and social studies, ½ Information and Communication Technology, ½ Economics, ½ art, ½ health, 1 Physical Education, and 6 credits in electives. | Parents determine when their student has fulfilled graduation requirements; for the purpose of creating transcripts, some homeschool parents do assign credits to individual courses. |
| GED eligibility | Students must be 18 (16 – 17 year olds can file a waiver) and be residents of NH at time of test. | The same requirements for eligibility apply to homeschoolers as to public school students. |
Oh, yeah, we did need to get a waiver because he was 17, but it wasn't a big deal, and if we'd waited until he was 18, that wouldn't have been necessary.
Public/Private School Homeschool New Hampshire diploma requirements Students must complete 20 credit hours in English, mathematics, science, US and NH history and government, Economics, World History or Geography, Health, Physical Education, Art, Information and Communications Technology, and 6 credits in electives. Parents determine when their student has fulfilled graduation requirements and can issue their own homeschool diploma; students of private/online schools may receive diplomas from those institutions. New Hampshire high school testing requirements 11th graders take the College Board School Day SAT and the NH SAS for science. Homeschool students are not subject to testing requirements for graduation. New Hampshire high school transcripts Complete a transcript request form and mail to the NHDE. Fee is $20 per transcript. Homeschool parents may create their own student transcripts, and may include any information they deem pertinent to colleges, military, and/or future workplace organizations. New Hampshire high school course credits Students must complete 20 credit hours: 4 English, 3 math, 2 science, 2 history and social studies, ½ Information and Communication Technology, ½ Economics, ½ art, ½ health, 1 Physical Education, and 6 credits in electives. Parents determine when their student has fulfilled graduation requirements; for the purpose of creating transcripts, some homeschool parents do assign credits to individual courses. GED eligibility Students must be 18 (16 – 17 year olds can file a waiver) and be residents of NH at time of test. The same requirements for eligibility apply to homeschoolers as to public school students.
They don't, it is personal, private education matter, the only oversight they need is probably a certification of homeschoolingHome and many Private Christian Schools really need Oversight. Many choose those options because they are not interested in a good Education in the first place and both of these deliver.
You're conflating (dishonestly in my opinion because you've done it repeatedly) demanding standards and accountability to make sure kids are actually educated with forcing everyone to use public schools.They don't, it is personal, private education matter, the only oversight they need is probably a certification of homeschooling
Not everyone wants to push their child in these public schools
Seems like getting a GED is pretty much a no brainer. I have no idea how many homeschooled kids are skipping that step. Maybe they can get away with it if they are going into the trades.Oh, yeah, we did need to get a waiver because he was 17, but it wasn't a big deal, and if we'd waited until he was 18, that wouldn't have been necessary.
But that does also seem to indicate that your state's requirements have indeed changed, and parents can just give their kid a diploma whenever they feel like it? Obviously it would be up to employers/schools if they'd accept that diploma as valid...
Standards and accountability will be given to by the parents or that specific home schooled teacher. It's like a home aide nurse entering a home 5 days a week, that person has a license, I believe.You're conflating (dishonestly in my opinion because you've done it repeatedly) demanding standards and accountability to make sure kids are actually educated with forcing everyone to use public schools.
Are you saying the parents need a certificate in order to be able to homeschool?Standards and accountability will be given to by the parents or that specific home schooled teacher. It's like a home aide nurse entering a home 5 days a week, that person has a license, I believe.
As long as that parent has a homeschool certificate....
Both. Fair compromise.Are you saying the parents need a certificate in order to be able to homeschool?
Or that the parents will determine the standards and accountability themselves?
Then there are no standards and there is no accountability.Both. Fair compromise.
No, no, no! Parents have an innate ability to develop an appropriate curriculum, teach, and objectively evaluate student progress. This ability is arises organically when they fuck.Then there are no standards and there is no accountability.
Yeah. I was disappointed to read this. Really, WTFBBQ.Oh, yeah, we did need to get a waiver because he was 17, but it wasn't a big deal, and if we'd waited until he was 18, that wouldn't have been necessary.
But that does also seem to indicate that your state's requirements have indeed changed, and parents can just give their kid a diploma whenever they feel like it? Obviously it would be up to employers/schools if they'd accept that diploma as valid...
Is that from a different article?Far more typical is the fundamental Christian, "spare the rod spoil the child", believing that modern biology, science, history, and of course gender equality are all the work of the devil and lies - and the primary role of government should be to enforce their religious beliefs upon all of America.
Apologies, also WAPO article behind firewall prompted the search for statistics (gifted here without firewall) ~ on positive side of some 2nd generation homeschooled taking their kids back into public schools (although a minority of the movement), along with some of the indoctrination they went through themselves as children:Is that from a different article?