Homosexuality

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0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Maybe you are doing the Devil's work and don't know it. You can't even prove your own suppostion that it is a choice.

I can prove that it is a choice.

Given: Homosexuality is a sin.
Given: God would never allow someone to be born with a genetic defect that causes them to sin, and which they have no control over.

So therefore, there is no way that homosexuality is genetic. How would God expect people to follow him if there were born with a sin-causing defect which they can't change?

apparently you've never heard of original sin. we're all f*cked.

Apparently you have never heard of Jesus dying on a cross. I am in good shape.

then you should stop worrying about homo's then

or was it that jesus only died for heterosexuals
 

Metalloid

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Maybe you are doing the Devil's work and don't know it. You can't even prove your own suppostion that it is a choice.

I can prove that it is a choice.

Given: Homosexuality is a sin.
Given: God would never allow someone to be born with a genetic defect that causes them to sin, and which they have no control over.

So therefore, there is no way that homosexuality is genetic. How would God expect people to follow him if there were born with a sin-causing defect which they can't change?

apparently you've never heard of original sin. we're all f*cked.

Apparently you have never heard of Jesus dying on a cross. I am in good shape.

then you should stop worrying about homo's then

or was it that jesus only died for heterosexuals

Jesus died for eveyone who accepts it. But I don't know too many true Christians who are homosexuals.

And I am not worried. I am only trying to help those who are less informed.
 

Metalloid

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Jan 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: LadyJessica
Would you consider self-mutilation a sin?

Good question. I had never thought about it, seeing as how I wouldn't do it anyways, but I would have to say yes.
 

Hossenfeffer

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Jul 16, 2000
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Some of the finest, kindest, most compassionate people I know are homosexual. Some are indeed Christian.

Some of the worst, cruelest, least compassionate people I know are heterosexual. Some are indeed Christian.
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
Some of the finest, kindest, most compassionate people I know are homosexual. Some are indeed Christian.

Some of the worst, cruelest, least compassionate people I know are heterosexual. Some are indeed Christian.



If they are cruel and some of the worst people you know then they are self-proclaimed Christians, not true Christians.
 

Jadow

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I don't know, but I wish more guys were gay. That way there'd be more girls to go around!
 

Metalloid

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Originally posted by: Jadow
I don't know, but I wish more guys were gay. That way there'd be more girls to go around!

I wish there were no gay guys, just a lot more girls.
 

LadyJessica

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I can prove that it is a choice.

Given: Homosexuality is a sin.
Given: God would never allow someone to be born with a genetic defect that causes them to sin, and which they have no control over.

So therefore, there is no way that homosexuality is genetic. How would God expect people to follow him if there were born with a sin-causing defect which they can't change?

Would you consider masturbation a sin? Mentally retarded people masturbate because they can.

You said previously that you think self mutilation a sin. All people that have Lesch-Neehan syndrome mutilate themselves (or at least hurt themselves).
 

ElFenix

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I can prove that it is a choice.

Given: Homosexuality is a sin.
Given: God would never allow someone to be born with a genetic defect that causes them to sin, and which they have no control over.

So therefore, there is no way that homosexuality is genetic. How would God expect people to follow him if there were born with a sin-causing defect which they can't change?
wow, those are possibly the two most controversial givens i've ever seen. i mean, first you would have to prove that god exists. then you would have to prove that god doesn't like homosexuality. then you would have to prove that god decides what traits people are born with.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Homosexuality is a temptation caused by satan. Thats why everyone has those thoughts, we are all tested. The weak fall. The devil is evil and tempts in many ways, this is just one way.
The Atheist God could beat up your "god" any day.
 

Ryan

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Oct 31, 2000
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Honestly, if you even think about the word Homosexuality (the mind if a very visual thing), you've had a homosexual thought. If you read this following sentence, you've had a homosexual thought: Two guys getting it on.

Honestly, anyone who says they have never had a homosexual thought is either a child, or has never been exposed to the thought of homosexuality.
 

Metalloid

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Jan 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Honestly, if you even think about the word Homosexuality (the mind if a very visual thing), you've had a homosexual thought. If you read this following sentence, you've had a homosexual thought: Two guys getting it on.

Honestly, anyone who says they have never had a homosexual thought is either a child, or has never been exposed to the thought of homosexuality.

I believe that what was meant by "homosexual thought," was that particular person imagining themselves commiting a homosexual act, or imagining homosexual activities and enjoying it. I have had homosexual thoughts, but only because you said "Two guys getting it on," not because I enjoy homosexual thoughts.
 

Medellon

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Feb 13, 2000
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I have never had homosexual thoughts and I'm 35. You can't make a blanket statement saying everyone will have homosexual thoughts at some point in their lives without backing it up somehow.
 

Greg03

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Originally posted by: Czar
Its known in nature and we are but animals.


Shhhhh....this is too simple for the people who think they have a moral leg up on "them".
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: rbloedow Honestly, if you even think about the word Homosexuality (the mind if a very visual thing), you've had a homosexual thought. If you read this following sentence, you've had a homosexual thought: Two guys getting it on. Honestly, anyone who says they have never had a homosexual thought is either a child, or has never been exposed to the thought of homosexuality.
I believe that what was meant by "homosexual thought," was that particular person imagining themselves commiting a homosexual act, or imagining homosexual activities and enjoying it. I have had homosexual thoughts, but only because you said "Two guys getting it on," not because I enjoy homosexual thoughts.

And enjoying it?!?! When do you have to enjoy a thought for it to be a thought?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? If you think of somebody getting killed, is it only a thought if you're the one getting killed or if you enjoy it?!?!?!?!
 

Metalloid

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Originally posted by: LadyJessica
I can prove that it is a choice.

Given: Homosexuality is a sin.
Given: God would never allow someone to be born with a genetic defect that causes them to sin, and which they have no control over.

So therefore, there is no way that homosexuality is genetic. How would God expect people to follow him if there were born with a sin-causing defect which they can't change?

Would you consider masturbation a sin? Mentally retarded people masturbate because they can.

You said previously that you think self mutilation a sin. All people that have Lesch-Neehan syndrome mutilate themselves (or at least hurt themselves).

I do consider masturbation a sin (and one that I am guilty of). Are you sure that all mentally retarded people masturbate? That is really going out on a limb. I do believe that God has exceptions for mentally retarded people, because they don't have the mental capacity to comprehend. Just like infants who are killed have on way of accepting Jesus as their savior. It is just one of those things I will find out when I die.
 

Greg03

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>>Given: Homosexuality is a sin.
Given: God would never allow someone to be born with a genetic defect that causes them to sin, and which they have no control over.
So therefore, there is no way that homosexuality is genetic. How would God expect people to follow him if there were born with a sin-causing defect which they can't change?


Hey Skippy, aren't you confusing thoughts with actions? Homosexuality is not a sin. Homosexual acts are.
 

Ryan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Medellon
I have never had homosexual thoughts and I'm 35. You can't make a blanket statement saying everyone will have homosexual thoughts at some point in their lives without backing it up somehow.

Dude, just thinking of the word homosexuality MAKES you think of homosexual thoughts. In your mind you associate words with thoughts, feelings, and images. It's like me saying "nike shoes". What do you envision in your head?!??! A PAIR OF SHOES. Your statement that you have never had a homosexual thought it ludacris.
 
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