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Metalloid

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
For some reason, Christianity seems to be unable to deal effectively with sexuality in just about any form. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, it is neither "good" nor "bad"; the fact that it is shunned in Western society is purely cultural, due in part to the Christian prohibition against it. Other cultures throughout history have dealt with the subject in a much more enlightened manner.

Yeah Saddam and Gommorah did a real great job.

 

BDawg

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
For some reason, Christianity seems to be unable to deal effectively with sexuality in just about any form. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, it is neither "good" nor "bad"; the fact that it is shunned in Western society is purely cultural, due in part to the Christian prohibition against it. Other cultures throughout history have dealt with the subject in a much more enlightened manner.

Why are there more homosexuals in todays society then there were 100 years ago then? Could it possibly be because society is telling homosexuals its ok to be gay?

Perhaps there are more "out of closet" homosexuals today since there is less of a chance to get beaten and killed for it today.
 

flavio

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: BDawg
Wow, the fundies are out in force today. I thought today was your day of rest.


Wow, BDawg. Wassup G-funk. I wish I had as cool a name as you. Dude for real, if you don't like Christians then dont talk to us. Leave. Are you just looking to start trouble? Do you have anything better to do with your time?

Let him be, this isn't our thread. IF I had started a christian thread I might be mad at him. He has the right to his oppinion.


He has no right to insult us though, but you are right. Ill go edit my post.

I don't think you should be so dead set against homosexuals.

I treat homosexuals just as I treat murderers and other criminals and sinners, and even myself!!! We are ALL sinners, but the point is to repent and change your ways. I wouldn't disklike a homosexual if they stopped their homosexual tendencies.


Put it this way, I am a believing in Christ but, don't you think these homosexuals have prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and asked to be normal? I highly doubt these guys wish to be the way they are. I mean they've prayed and prayed... it isn't changing nor working. Now what? You know?

Have you ever met a homosexual? Of the 2 that I know neither of them are at all Christian, or have ever prayed in their life. They are completely vulgar all the time, they are mean, and they think they deserve special treatment. Im not trying to stereotype, but I know that not all Homosexuals have prayed to be normal. Maybe some have, and Im willing to bet that if they honestly pray they will become "normal".

Exactly. If they asked for forgiveness and actually tried to live as God wanted them to, they wouldn't even feel the need to be a homosexual anymore.

If you pray for forgiveness and actually tried to live as Jesus wanted you to, you wouldn't feel the need to be a prejudiced bigot anymore.

 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
For some reason, Christianity seems to be unable to deal effectively with sexuality in just about any form. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, it is neither "good" nor "bad"; the fact that it is shunned in Western society is purely cultural, due in part to the Christian prohibition against it. Other cultures throughout history have dealt with the subject in a much more enlightened manner.

Why are there more homosexuals in todays society then there were 100 years ago then? Could it possibly be because society is telling homosexuals its ok to be gay?

Bwahahaha... oh, my goodness, you crack me up. Have you no knowledge of ancient Greek/Roman culture? Or of medieval European culture? Homosexuality was common practice and much more condoned there than it ever has been in modern day America.
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
For some reason, Christianity seems to be unable to deal effectively with sexuality in just about any form. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, it is neither "good" nor "bad"; the fact that it is shunned in Western society is purely cultural, due in part to the Christian prohibition against it. Other cultures throughout history have dealt with the subject in a much more enlightened manner.

Yeah Saddam and Gommorah did a real great job.

 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
For some reason, Christianity seems to be unable to deal effectively with sexuality in just about any form. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, it is neither "good" nor "bad"; the fact that it is shunned in Western society is purely cultural, due in part to the Christian prohibition against it. Other cultures throughout history have dealt with the subject in a much more enlightened manner.

Why are there more homosexuals in todays society then there were 100 years ago then? Could it possibly be because society is telling homosexuals its ok to be gay?

How do you know how many homosexuals there were 100 years ago? Or 200? Or a thousand?
 

flavio

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
If I were trying to be stereotypical I don't think I would say that Im not trying to be. Do you know my intentions flavio? Didn't think so. Go ahead though, tell young kids its ok to be gay. Infact why don't you go tell some kids its ok to Murder as well. Or if they are poor, its ok to steal. Go tell them its ok to cheat on their spouses too.

You were stereotyping. And you go tell your kids that it's ok to hate, and rape goats, and sodomize old women ok?


Yes keep making up ridiculous stuff, its your best defense.

Since you started making up ridiculous stuff I thought I would join in the fun.

 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I don't dislike homosexuals, I dislike the act of homosexuality. I strongly dislike the act of saying its ok and teaching kids to sin more because they have to be "themselves" Society has caused so many more homosexuals simply because they are not realizing they are teaching kids that its ok to give into temptation.

I dislike the act of saying it's ok to be prejudiced and teaching kids that it's ok to be a bigot because they have to "hate people that are different".


Did I ever say I hated anyone? No. You seem to be putting words into my mouth. I hate the ACT of homosexuality. There is a difference.

Do you think homosexuals should be able to teach school or be scoutmasters (assuming BSA is okay with it)? Or, are you afraid they'll get the gay on the kids.


As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.
 

Metalloid

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Jan 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: BDawg
Wow, the fundies are out in force today. I thought today was your day of rest.


Wow, BDawg. Wassup G-funk. I wish I had as cool a name as you. Dude for real, if you don't like Christians then dont talk to us. Leave. Are you just looking to start trouble? Do you have anything better to do with your time?

Let him be, this isn't our thread. IF I had started a christian thread I might be mad at him. He has the right to his oppinion.


He has no right to insult us though, but you are right. Ill go edit my post.

I don't think you should be so dead set against homosexuals.

I treat homosexuals just as I treat murderers and other criminals and sinners, and even myself!!! We are ALL sinners, but the point is to repent and change your ways. I wouldn't disklike a homosexual if they stopped their homosexual tendencies.


Put it this way, I am a believing in Christ but, don't you think these homosexuals have prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and asked to be normal? I highly doubt these guys wish to be the way they are. I mean they've prayed and prayed... it isn't changing nor working. Now what? You know?

Have you ever met a homosexual? Of the 2 that I know neither of them are at all Christian, or have ever prayed in their life. They are completely vulgar all the time, they are mean, and they think they deserve special treatment. Im not trying to stereotype, but I know that not all Homosexuals have prayed to be normal. Maybe some have, and Im willing to bet that if they honestly pray they will become "normal".

Exactly. If they asked for forgiveness and actually tried to live as God wanted them to, they wouldn't even feel the need to be a homosexual anymore.

If you pray for forgiveness and actually tried to live as Jesus wanted you to, you wouldn't feel the need to be a prejudiced bigot anymore.

HAHA you are a funny guy. Now please, do show me something that I said to earn the title of a "prejudiced bigot."
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447

As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.

:Q

Heaven forbid they teach your kids to be tolerant!
 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I don't dislike homosexuals, I dislike the act of homosexuality. I strongly dislike the act of saying its ok and teaching kids to sin more because they have to be "themselves" Society has caused so many more homosexuals simply because they are not realizing they are teaching kids that its ok to give into temptation.

I dislike the act of saying it's ok to be prejudiced and teaching kids that it's ok to be a bigot because they have to "hate people that are different".


Did I ever say I hated anyone? No. You seem to be putting words into my mouth. I hate the ACT of homosexuality. There is a difference.

Do you think homosexuals should be able to teach school or be scoutmasters (assuming BSA is okay with it)? Or, are you afraid they'll get the gay on the kids.


As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.
just curious, how can homosexuality be tought?
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
For some reason, Christianity seems to be unable to deal effectively with sexuality in just about any form. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, it is neither "good" nor "bad"; the fact that it is shunned in Western society is purely cultural, due in part to the Christian prohibition against it. Other cultures throughout history have dealt with the subject in a much more enlightened manner.

Why are there more homosexuals in todays society then there were 100 years ago then? Could it possibly be because society is telling homosexuals its ok to be gay?

Bwahahaha... oh, my goodness, you crack me up. Have you no knowledge of ancient Greek/Roman culture? Or of medieval European culture? Homosexuality was common practice and much more condoned there than it ever has been in modern day America.

You still haven't responded to this post. Do you honestly think that homosexuality is a modern phenomenon? Or that it is somehow affected in any great way by what has occurred in America in the last two hundred years?
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447

As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.

:Q

Heaven forbid they teach your kids to be tolerant!

Shall we teach our kids to be tolerant of murder as well?

 

flavio

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: BDawg
Wow, the fundies are out in force today. I thought today was your day of rest.


Wow, BDawg. Wassup G-funk. I wish I had as cool a name as you. Dude for real, if you don't like Christians then dont talk to us. Leave. Are you just looking to start trouble? Do you have anything better to do with your time?

Let him be, this isn't our thread. IF I had started a christian thread I might be mad at him. He has the right to his oppinion.


He has no right to insult us though, but you are right. Ill go edit my post.

I don't think you should be so dead set against homosexuals.

I treat homosexuals just as I treat murderers and other criminals and sinners, and even myself!!! We are ALL sinners, but the point is to repent and change your ways. I wouldn't disklike a homosexual if they stopped their homosexual tendencies.


Put it this way, I am a believing in Christ but, don't you think these homosexuals have prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and asked to be normal? I highly doubt these guys wish to be the way they are. I mean they've prayed and prayed... it isn't changing nor working. Now what? You know?

Have you ever met a homosexual? Of the 2 that I know neither of them are at all Christian, or have ever prayed in their life. They are completely vulgar all the time, they are mean, and they think they deserve special treatment. Im not trying to stereotype, but I know that not all Homosexuals have prayed to be normal. Maybe some have, and Im willing to bet that if they honestly pray they will become "normal".

Exactly. If they asked for forgiveness and actually tried to live as God wanted them to, they wouldn't even feel the need to be a homosexual anymore.

If you pray for forgiveness and actually tried to live as Jesus wanted you to, you wouldn't feel the need to be a prejudiced bigot anymore.

HAHA you are a funny guy. Now please, do show me something that I said to earn the title of a "prejudiced bigot."

I think it had something to do with gay people.

 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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Do you think homosexuals should be able to teach school or be scoutmasters (assuming BSA is okay with it)? Or, are you afraid they'll get the gay on the kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


just curious, how can homosexuality be tought?









I said as long as they don't teach that it is ok, not that they don't teach it.
 

Metalloid

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: flavio
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: BDawg
Wow, the fundies are out in force today. I thought today was your day of rest.


Wow, BDawg. Wassup G-funk. I wish I had as cool a name as you. Dude for real, if you don't like Christians then dont talk to us. Leave. Are you just looking to start trouble? Do you have anything better to do with your time?

Let him be, this isn't our thread. IF I had started a christian thread I might be mad at him. He has the right to his oppinion.


He has no right to insult us though, but you are right. Ill go edit my post.

I don't think you should be so dead set against homosexuals.

I treat homosexuals just as I treat murderers and other criminals and sinners, and even myself!!! We are ALL sinners, but the point is to repent and change your ways. I wouldn't disklike a homosexual if they stopped their homosexual tendencies.


Put it this way, I am a believing in Christ but, don't you think these homosexuals have prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed and asked to be normal? I highly doubt these guys wish to be the way they are. I mean they've prayed and prayed... it isn't changing nor working. Now what? You know?

Have you ever met a homosexual? Of the 2 that I know neither of them are at all Christian, or have ever prayed in their life. They are completely vulgar all the time, they are mean, and they think they deserve special treatment. Im not trying to stereotype, but I know that not all Homosexuals have prayed to be normal. Maybe some have, and Im willing to bet that if they honestly pray they will become "normal".

Exactly. If they asked for forgiveness and actually tried to live as God wanted them to, they wouldn't even feel the need to be a homosexual anymore.

If you pray for forgiveness and actually tried to live as Jesus wanted you to, you wouldn't feel the need to be a prejudiced bigot anymore.

HAHA you are a funny guy. Now please, do show me something that I said to earn the title of a "prejudiced bigot."

I think it had something to do with gay people.

Wow you are right!!! I am a bigot!!!!

EDIT: Off to church. Will be back around 8 if you guys want to discuss... err flame some more.
 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447

As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.

:Q

Heaven forbid they teach your kids to be tolerant!

Shall we teach our kids to be tolerant of murder as well?

Oh, man, I love you. And not in that sicko disgusting sinful Jesus hating homosexual way. The Sin of murder is nowhere near comparable to homosexuality.

You do realize it was hatred and intolerance that killed Jesus the Christ, don't you?
 

flavio

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Do you think homosexuals should be able to teach school or be scoutmasters (assuming BSA is okay with it)? Or, are you afraid they'll get the gay on the kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


just curious, how can homosexuality be tought?









I said as long as they don't teach that it is ok, not that they don't teach it.

You would prefer they be taught to hate those that are different I suppose.

 

Orsorum

Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
For some reason, Christianity seems to be unable to deal effectively with sexuality in just about any form. Homosexuality is nothing more than a sexual preference, it is neither "good" nor "bad"; the fact that it is shunned in Western society is purely cultural, due in part to the Christian prohibition against it. Other cultures throughout history have dealt with the subject in a much more enlightened manner.

Why are there more homosexuals in todays society then there were 100 years ago then? Could it possibly be because society is telling homosexuals its ok to be gay?

Bwahahaha... oh, my goodness, you crack me up. Have you no knowledge of ancient Greek/Roman culture? Or of medieval European culture? Homosexuality was common practice and much more condoned there than it ever has been in modern day America.

You still haven't responded to this post. Do you honestly think that homosexuality is a modern phenomenon? Or that it is somehow affected in any great way by what has occurred in America in the last two hundred years?

Or you could just continue to ignore facts and history.
 

jjones

Lifer
Oct 9, 2001
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LMAO at this thread. I swear, you mention homosexuality on ATOT and you can literally count down from ten and the flames go off. God's a latent homosexual, that's a fact and that's why some of the people made in God's image are homosexual.
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447

As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.

:Q

Heaven forbid they teach your kids to be tolerant!

Shall we teach our kids to be tolerant of murder as well?

Oh, man, I love you. And not in that sicko disgusting sinful Jesus hating homosexual way. The Sin of murder is nowhere near comparable to homosexuality.

You do realize it was hatred and intolerance that killed Jesus the Christ, don't you?


All sins are equal. Murder is = to Homosexuality is = to theft is = to adultery. A sin is a sin. According to the bible.

 

Metalloid

Diamond Member
Jan 18, 2002
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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447

As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.

:Q

Heaven forbid they teach your kids to be tolerant!

Shall we teach our kids to be tolerant of murder as well?

Oh, man, I love you. And not in that sicko disgusting sinful Jesus hating homosexual way. The Sin of murder is nowhere near comparable to homosexuality.

You do realize it was hatred and intolerance that killed Jesus the Christ, don't you?

All sins are equal. A sin is a sin.
 

Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
28,510
0
0
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Do you think homosexuals should be able to teach school or be scoutmasters (assuming BSA is okay with it)? Or, are you afraid they'll get the gay on the kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


just curious, how can homosexuality be tought?









I said as long as they don't teach that it is ok, not that they don't teach it.

How can they teach it??
 

Cuda1447

Lifer
Jul 26, 2002
11,757
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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Do you think homosexuals should be able to teach school or be scoutmasters (assuming BSA is okay with it)? Or, are you afraid they'll get the gay on the kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


just curious, how can homosexuality be tought?









I said as long as they don't teach that it is ok, not that they don't teach it.

How can they teach it??



Can you read? I said they can teach it is OK. Not that they can teach it.
 

flavio

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Zakath15
Originally posted by: Cuda1447

As long as they don't teach Homosexuality is ok, then yes let them be a teacher. If they can be trusted (just like if anyone can be trusted) then I trust them with my kids.

:Q

Heaven forbid they teach your kids to be tolerant!

Shall we teach our kids to be tolerant of murder as well?

Oh, man, I love you. And not in that sicko disgusting sinful Jesus hating homosexual way. The Sin of murder is nowhere near comparable to homosexuality.

You do realize it was hatred and intolerance that killed Jesus the Christ, don't you?


All sins are equal. Murder is = to Homosexuality is = to theft is = to adultery. A sin is a sin. According to the bible.

Then since your intolerance and bigotry is a sin I guess You=Murderer.

Go turn yourself in.

 
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