Honda Accord Diesel

overst33r

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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/0...-diesel-to-hit-60-mpg/

British motoring mag Autocar is reporting that the new Accord diesel we recently told you about will get really good mileage. That might seem like a no-brainer, but when we say "really good," we mean it. Like more than 60 mpg really good. Autocar says the diesel will be good for as much as 62.8 mpg when it appears in a dealership near you. That's 52.3 mpg here in the States, by the way. Honda's new clean diesel is apparently based on the current 2.2 i-CTDi, and when fitted in a Euro Accord, it achieved that staggering 62.8 mpg at a recent diesel technology convention in California.

Besides the stellar fuel economy rating, these new diesels wear the "clean" tag proudly. The catalytic converter on these Honda diesels is helping it meet the strict US (especially in California) emissions standards, running as cleanly as gas engines. They do it by converting nitrogen into ammonia, which is then used to further diminish the remaining NOx gases. The new Accords should show up in September, but we're not sure if the diesel will be available from the get-go or if it will appear down the road.

[Source: Autocar]

This should be great news for those that will be in the market for a diesel in the next couple of years...
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: mariok2006
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/0...-diesel-to-hit-60-mpg/

British motoring mag Autocar is reporting that the new Accord diesel we recently told you about will get really good mileage. That might seem like a no-brainer, but when we say "really good," we mean it. Like more than 60 mpg really good. Autocar says the diesel will be good for as much as 62.8 mpg when it appears in a dealership near you. That's 52.3 mpg here in the States, by the way. Honda's new clean diesel is apparently based on the current 2.2 i-CTDi, and when fitted in a Euro Accord, it achieved that staggering 62.8 mpg at a recent diesel technology convention in California.

Besides the stellar fuel economy rating, these new diesels wear the "clean" tag proudly. The catalytic converter on these Honda diesels is helping it meet the strict US (especially in California) emissions standards, running as cleanly as gas engines. They do it by converting nitrogen into ammonia, which is then used to further diminish the remaining NOx gases. The new Accords should show up in September, but we're not sure if the diesel will be available from the get-go or if it will appear down the road.

[Source: Autocar]

This should be great news for those that will be in the market for a diesel in the next couple of years...

If they put that engine in the Acura TSX they'd sell a million of them. Hell, I'd trade the Maxima in a second for that combination.
 

Strk

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Now if only we could get this engine and the Civic hatchback here in the States, I would be one happy man.
 

raildogg

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I was thinking of getting a Mazda 3 hatchback, but I think I may wait for the new Accord, either the regular version or the diesel.
 

Goosemaster

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Honda is canceling the accord hybrid in the US due to lack of sales.....hopefully they will go with this
 

rezinn

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I've been waiting for the diesel accord. We'll just see how it looks and performs by the time it gets here though.
 

lokiju

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This is sweet news.

Now I'm really curious what the new Ridgeline will get with the V6 version of this.
 

Demo24

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imperial gallons was the 62.8mpg.

yes we are getting this. Lets hope it sells well so everyone else will be persuaded to bring in diesels as well!
 

vi edit

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Hybrid what?

Seriously...diesel is future. Glad to see that Honda learned from VW that there is a market for it. The wife and I are definitely in the market for a high milage family car in the next year. This sounds like a wonderful alternative. We were really excited about the new common rail design coming to the Jetta's next year, but I think I'd rather have an Accord for the size/brand reputation.
 

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i'd love to own one, too! i hope it won't be too long a wait to fill up at the gas stations when more people buy them, though...
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Hybrid what?

Seriously...diesel is future. Glad to see that Honda learned from VW that there is a market for it. The wife and I are definitely in the market for a high milage family car in the next year. This sounds like a wonderful alternative. We were really excited about the new common rail design coming to the Jetta's next year, but I think I'd rather have an Accord for the size/brand reputation.

I was under the impression that you get less diesel out of a barrel of crude oil than gasoline. Since there is less supply, a huge jump in the number of diesel engines out there would increase price dramatically.
 

marincounty

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I am in favor of diesel-as long as the exhaust pipe is in the front of the vehicle so you can breathe the exhaust.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I was under the impression that you get less diesel out of a barrel of crude oil than gasoline. Since there is less supply, a huge jump in the number of diesel engines out there would increase price dramatically.
Exactly. You get ~2 gallons of gas for every gallon of diesel you make. If everyone wanted diesel, you'd need to go through twice as many barrels of oil to make the diesel. Plus, all that gasoline wouldn't have much demand. Diesel price would skyrocket and gas price would plummet. Of course, eventually power plants would just buy the gas and burn it to make fuel (or some other similar big use would come in). But the point remains, we CAN'T have diesel be the fuel of all cars of the future without a MASSIVE increase in the cost of diesel.

Diesel engines are good engines. But the chemistry of oil refining states that we need twice as much gas consumption as we have diesel consumption. Any statement that one will take over is rediculously short-sighted.

 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Hybrid what?

Seriously...diesel is future. Glad to see that Honda learned from VW that there is a market for it. The wife and I are definitely in the market for a high milage family car in the next year. This sounds like a wonderful alternative. We were really excited about the new common rail design coming to the Jetta's next year, but I think I'd rather have an Accord for the size/brand reputation.

I was under the impression that you get less diesel out of a barrel of crude oil than gasoline. Since there is less supply, a huge jump in the number of diesel engines out there would increase price dramatically.

It depends on the type of crude. Heavy crude yields less gasoline while the lighter stuff has more. From what I've read a *typical* barrel of crude oil will yield around 20 gallons of gas and 10 gallons diesel. So you are correct in that there is less diesel produced from a barrel. But, diesels are pulling anywhere from 50% to 100% better milage than a gasser...so it's a bit of a wash. Gallon for gallon what you put in your tank you are getting much further distance out of it.

You also have alternative fuels like biodiesel that can be blended in(20% without needing mods and 100% with specialized engines) reducing that gap between barrel yields.
 
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