House Passes 1/6 Commission

[ivwshane]

I think what concerns me the most and at the same time gives a little confidence in our system is that how many people were involved in this. Not just the trump sycophants doing his bidding but those who were pressured to go along and who either didn’t or grudgingly went along with it.


So on one hand we have so many dominoes that have to fall into place in order for such a thing to be successful but on the other hand the number of people who remained silent and didn’t go public or leak this is very concerning. These are people who knew this was wrong but decided to put their party before the country and just hoped this would all go away.

It’s akin to having a school shooting taking place and police are already on the scene but instead of doing something they stand there, doing nothing. Our democracy was almost murdered that day and people chose to stand idly by.

Disgraceful, disgusting, and disheartening.

 

[Zorba]

Non zero chance Trump may have accidentally confessed to multiple state and federal crimes, straight to a camera.

And it won't matter.

 

[Zorba]

Don't think fake electors appointed in violation of the law is going to fall under that.

Really, all the fake electors should be charged with fraud, too.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Senator Ron Johnson’s aide sent a text to team Pence requesting a handoff of fake electors.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539309375919202304

Speaking of Ron Johnson and fake dime-store imitations

Johnson explains why he broke his promise to only run for two terms: “I didn’t want to do this … but people are literally coming up to me with tears in their eyes, streaming down their cheeks saying, ‘You got to run. You got to help us save this country!"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1538939807040151556

Were they "Big strong men" and did they call you "sir"? ... Sorry Ron, you suck at this

 

[VRAMdemon]

Kudos to Rusty Bowers! ... a powerful example of what makes an effective witness.

Raff says the number of dead voters was 4. He didn’t say who they voted for. Bennie Thompson consistently mispronounced Raffensperger’s name. Mildly embarassing.

And ... On ABC earlier, grifter Chris Christie is going full whatabout, painting Gore in 2000 and Clinton in 2016 as examples of rejecting the results of an election. WTF is he talking about Hillary Clinton “rejecting” the results? she conceded on election night.

Someone should remind him that there are LEGAL ways of contesting election results. What his whataboutism is intended to obscure is the fact that in this case, the election denial came right from the top, was ILLEGAL and ignored those people who pointed out to the man in charge that he had just lost.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Hmmm!

British documentary filmmaker Alex Holder confirmed on Tuesday that he had complied with a subpoena from the Jan. 6 committee to turn over never-before-seen footage of former President Donald Trump in the leadup to the insurrection.

A British filmmaker gave Congress unreleased footage of Trump and his family

British documentarian Alex Holder confirmed on Tuesday that he had complied with a Jan. 6 committee subpoena for never-before-seen footage of the president in the leadup to the insurrection.

www.npr.org

 

[eelw]

Bennie Thompson consistently mispronounced Raffensperger’s name. Mildly embarassing.

Not just him. I usually hear it pronounced Raffenburger

 

[Roger Wilco]

Here’s the statement.

 

[zinfamous]

uh, so it's the same guy that had Proud Boys access on those days, too.

lol, like, wtf.

These dipwits in the Oval Office hired a professional documentary team to literally film their treason and the creation of the new Trumpland. They have got these guys in with Torrio and the whole shebang. This is effing nuts.

Trump and Miller and Meadows (Flynn and likely Giuliani, as well) were creating the required film for 3-6th civic education, over the next ~50-80 years or so, within their new regime.

 

[alien42]

uh, so it's the same guy that had Proud Boys access on those days, too.

lol, like, wtf.

These dipwits in the Oval Office hired a professional documentary team to literally film their treason and the creation of the new Trumpland. They have got these guys in with Torrio and the whole shebang. This is effing nuts.

Trump and Miller and Meadows (Flynn and likely Giuliani, as well) were creating the required film for 3-6th civic education, over the next ~50-80 years or so, within their new regime.

it's a different person, that was Nick Quested with the Proud Boys.

 

[zinfamous]

it's a different person, that was Nick Quested with the Proud Boys.

I recall both, at least, being "British journalist team, documenting the whole deal." I didn't recall the directors' name when they were showing the Proud Boys at the opening hearing, just now that it sounds like the same group? I haven't been to watch the hearings since the 1st.

 

[sportage]

It should disturb people very much, and people should ask themselves WHY did Donald Trump seek this extreme all inclusive power in the first place? Why did Donald Trump want such power that exceeded that of the US constitution? Power that exceeded that of our legal system? Power that exceeded that of our very democracy? I say WHY did Donald Trump want such incredible power, and what was Donald Trump planning to do with that power once obtained?

Ask yourselves WHY were, and WHY are there so many others out there willing to assist Donald Trump with his quest to achieve the ultimate power? What are they expecting from Trump, or expecting Trump to do with all that power? To gain the power that only a second term as president would have given Trump access to?
WHY was a second term so important? And important enough to overthrow American democracy? To toss our very democracy in the trash?
I really have to wonder... what was, and what is Donald Trump up to?

 

[Lezunto]

Trump wanted never-ending adulation and praise

His cronies wanted absolute power to impose the type of tyranny they've longed dreamed of ... an end to ethnic groups they hated or have them underfoot with no chance of redress

We were simply in the way

 

[alien42]

I recall both, at least, being "British journalist team, documenting the whole deal." I didn't recall the directors' name when they were showing the Proud Boys at the opening hearing, just now that it sounds like the same group? I haven't been to watch the hearings since the 1st.

i just did a quick google search to check what you said because i didn't recall hearing the name Alex Holder previously. the two directors have nothing to do with each other, they both just happen to be British.

also, you should go back and watch the hearings, especially todays.

 

[m8d]

Speaking of Ron Johnson and fake dime-store imitations

Johnson explains why he broke his promise to only run for two terms: “I didn’t want to do this … but people are literally coming up to me with tears in their eyes, streaming down their cheeks saying, ‘You got to run. You got to help us save this country!"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1538939807040151556

Were they "Big strong men" and did they call you "sir"? ... Sorry Ron, you suck at this

Everyone involved should be prosecuted.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Ron is real busy making phone calls these days.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539445083245793281

 

[gothuevos]

And this is why the committee's work is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539604110084808706

 

[hal2kilo]

They "had" respect for Trump. The reference to voting for Trump was in the pretense. None of them have said in public that they would vote for Trump after what Trump has done to them. They said they would vote for Trump up until the truth and intent was exposed. Believe your ears, they will never vote for Donald Trump today, tomorrow, or in their lifetime. THAT was perfectly clear.

Remember, these peoples lives have been threatened. You think they want to make their thoughts about Trump known? Trump's still a danger to individuals just by opening his big pile hole.

 

[Roger Wilco]

And this is why the committee's work is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539604110084808706

He’s already in deep shit with domestic terrorists just via his testimony. If he publicly rescinds support for His Corpulence, that shit gets waaaay deeper.

The desire for self preservation may currently supersede the desire to break from Trump, but Trump’s influence is actively faltering, as evidenced by the failure of many of his endorsements.


Speaking of faltering support:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539632670988292098

 

[fskimospy]

And this is why the committee's work is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539604110084808706

You aren’t making any sense.

 

[fskimospy]

He’s already in deep shit with domestic terrorists just via his testimony. If he publicly rescinds support for His Corpulence, that shit gets waaaay deeper.

The desire for self preservation may currently supersede the desire to break from Trump, but Trump’s influence is actively faltering, as evidenced by the failure of many of his endorsements.


Speaking of faltering support:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539632670988292098

Like I said I think it’s unlikely Trump will be the nominee in 2024 for multiple reasons. First he will likely be under indictment then but also it’s very clear Republican interest in him is waning, just as I predicted.

 

[gothuevos]

Like I said I think it’s unlikely Trump will be the nominee in 2024 for multiple reasons. First he will likely be under indictment then but also it’s very clear Republican interest in him is waning, just as I predicted.

1). If it's Trump, his people at the state legislatures will ensure his victory. If Biden keeps this up, Trump might win outright.

2). If it's DeSantis, he gives Biden the Walter Mondale treatment.

3). Any other scenario, see 1). for state legislature activity.

No, this is noty endorsement of either one, but rather an indictment of the electorate.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Some Republicans and Fox “News” have begun their "peel-off". in particular Fox has had some guests and commentators on after some of the hearings they decided to air who said "it sure looks like Trump committed crimes". They are losing the luster of defending him anymore.

IMO Republicans are desperate to move off of Trump and move on to DeSantis – who, may be far more dangerous. They’re also hoping we ignore all the complicit Republicans who likewise committed crimes and focus solely on the ones committed by Trump. I hope that's not the case. Trump had active and material help from his staff, including GOP establishment types like Mark Meadows, as well as from then-current members of Congress, such as Ron Johnson.

If there is any unofficial (much less official) deal to let all those people skate, while sacrificing, perhaps, Trump and Eastman — it will be a clear signal that wrongdoing by GOP officeholders has been given the seal of approval. And we will see the results of that green light in the misconduct/election interference that will be perpetrated in the upcoming November elections.

 

[VRAMdemon]

And this is why the committee's work is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1539604110084808706

It is very fucked up behavior. In Arizona - Video panel trucks were accusing Bowers of being a pedophile, and the strain of all of this adversely affecting his ill daughter. That’s the strain on his personal life. For what it’s worth, Bowers’s daughter was terminally ill and passed away at age 42 on January 28, 2021. Put that date in context.

But, even ignoring that, Bowers knows Trump is a liar and a cheat. And Bowers himself could not bring himself to “win by cheating”. He knows Trump will do this again, But he’ll STILL vote for Trump AGAIN. If Trump got elected he’d be carrying out the same winning by cheating that Bowers deplores.

They would vote for Trump over any other Democrat, said Bill Barr. Even more incredibly, so would Mike Pence! When asked if they would vote for Trump again, they could easily take a diplomatic way out by simply saying “I will do everything I can to ensure the Republican Party nominates a suitable candidate,” or “I may just sit that one out,” and leave it at that. I understand how steeped these people are in strict conservative dogma, but saying out loud that you will vote for a guy who sent a mob, with the intention of murdering you in broad daylight, is beyond any rational explanation. The only explanation may be that they are insane.

 

[fskimospy]

1). If it's Trump, his people at the state legislatures will ensure his victory. If Biden keeps this up, Trump might win outright.

2). If it's DeSantis, he gives Biden the Walter Mondale treatment.

3). Any other scenario, see 1). for state legislature activity.

No, this is noty endorsement of either one, but rather an indictment of the electorate.

Again I marvel at your confidence in your ability to predict outcomes years away when you couldn't predict them hours away.

I guess my appeal to even a small amount of humility on your part fell on deaf ears.