Beau presented a stat yesterday that I am not sure I believe.How would it further empower anyone? And yes... oh god yes do we need to inform America about what happened. The actual insurrection itself is a small part of what the committee is investigating.
The important revelations from the committee are not about the riot, they are about the attempted coup that predated the riot.
Quit being an apologist. They were owed a bullet in the head, they're fucking lucky they didn't get one.Or each other in Liberal cities. You might want to rerun the numbers on who commits most of the violent crimes in the country. You wouldn't have done anything except pooped your pants.
i know tfg had a thing for dictators and pagentry, i'm not sure yet about the new guy, projecting again eh?Sounds like someone wishes Leni Riefenstahl was still alive to direct the Jan. 6 tv show. Maybe we can get Adam Schiff to write another fictional account of Trump calling the President of Ukraine.
To the lemmings in the peanut gallery, did you do your research on tonight’s “committee”?
The Chairman did not accept George W Bush’s election results. Another refused to accept Trump’s election results. And, then you have Adam “Can I quietly apologize to the public for spreading lies about Trump” Schiff - what a bunch of losers.
To cap it off, the producer (did I really type that) of tonight’s spectacle is the same ABC executive that forced his employees to “kill the Epstein story” to cover for the Clintons and Royals.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the theater. I’m still waking up tomorrow to $5-$7 gas and dodging bullets driving by homeless tents…
Well if Garland doesnt sack up, its entirely on Biden. 100%. Buck stops at him, his responsibility to have an AG that acts like an AG.
Made me think of Miller in The Expanse.Yeah that shit was hard to watch. Reminded me of my admittedly limited training. When faced with a riot, put a bullet in the head of the loudest, or the nearest, in that order. Breathtaking that didn't turn into a bloodbath.
With the hearings running to July, I would not expect anything until then. Or maybe slightly after the election so things don't "look political" to conservatives. Charging trump will likely fire them up to voteWell if Garland doesnt sack up, its entirely on Biden. 100%. Buck stops at him, his responsibility to have an AG that acts like an AG.
Remember, ‘firing them up to vote’ was Trump’s entire election strategy in 2018 and 2020 and he got buried for it.With the hearings running to July, I would not expect anything until then. Or maybe slightly after the election so things don't "look political" to conservatives. Charging trump will likely fire them up to vote
Hey bitch boy:If it was BLM, they would have had their bails paid for and been thanked for destroying property.
Your boy Trump refused to call in the NG. Glad you hold him responsible for that at least.Or called in the NG troops?
No, you have good reasons to believe all those things. You're exactly right. A failure to hold Trump and his cronies responsible will only accelerate the end of democracy.
I wasn't going to watch this because I thought it would just be a combination of depressing and boring. I assumed it would be a rehash of the evidence already presented at the Senate impeachment trial of which I saw 90%. But my wife cajoled me into watching it.
I encourage everyone to watch Liz Cheney's opening remarks. They are packed with bone chilling facts I hadn't heard before. Just take one example. Trump senior advisors pleading with him to stop the riot, and citing the fact that rioters were shouting "hang Mike Pence!" And Trump responding with "maybe they got it right, Pence does deserve to be hanged." That is, I assume, sworn testimony of one or more Trump advisors.
According to Cheney, a federal judge, after examining the evidence, said Trump is likely guilty of violating at least two federal criminal statutes. What is Merrick Garland going to do with what the committee has handed him? Anything?
After this Merrick Garland either needs to start bring serious charges against everyone there, and especially the top people. Or he needs to find a new job. We can't let a president attempt to overthrow the government and not do anything about it because we are afraid it might look political. Many governors have been jailed, no reason a president can't be. Or at least all the shitbags around him.
This is what I expected the committee to do and this is the primary reason why I stand by my position that Trump will be indicted. After this Garland will face enormous pressure to act and as Moonbeam said, I think he was looking for a congressional endorsement for action.I wasn't going to watch this because I thought it would just be a combination of depressing and boring. I assumed it would be a rehash of the evidence already presented at the Senate impeachment trial of which I saw 90%. But my wife cajoled me into watching it.
I encourage everyone to watch Liz Cheney's opening remarks. They are packed with bone chilling facts I hadn't heard before. Just take one example. Trump senior advisors pleading with him to stop the riot, and citing the fact that rioters were shouting "hang Mike Pence!" And Trump responding with "maybe they got it right, Pence does deserve to be hanged." That is, I assume, sworn testimony of one or more Trump advisors.
According to Cheney, a federal judge, after examining the evidence, said Trump is likely guilty of violating at least two federal criminal statutes. What is Merrick Garland going to do with what the committee has handed him? Anything?
and @brandonbull has received his talking points. Know what's so sad about him? Watching the hearings last night B-bullshitter has more loyalty to Trump then his own daughter.Looks like Fox has issued their talking points.
Per a deplorable a friend of mine knows:
I still want to know if the capital police leadership was in on it. It is just hard to believe they were that incompetent.I still have a major problem with the insurrection investigation i.e. the lack of law enforcement on site on January 6th.
Just yesterday a photo was shown on the news of the security that has been dispatched to the house of supreme court justice Brett Kavanaugh. Some big, scary dudes set in place to protect Kavanaugh. Yet.... the security at the capitol on January 6th looked like mall-cops. Guys and gals in jump suits, some wearing helmets from Toys R Us, as the only active law enforcement on site. Was it not odd that the insurrectionist were allowed to simply stroll up to the capitol building and that building protected only by mall-cops?
Yes, despite this committee investigations, I fear the committee has not scratched the surface. I do believe the complicity of this insurrection goes a lot further and deeper than we know. May ever know.
And I believe the complicity went much further and deeper to also involve the US military. I believe that Donald Trump foreseen the plausible need to call on the United States military to take a part. The insurrection never got that far to call out the military, but it would have been necessary if Mike Pence had indeed done what Donald Trump wanted Pence to do, to fail to certify Joe Biden.
If the insurrection had fully succeeded with Donald Trump remaining as president and not Joe Biden, well.... the military would absolutely have been necessary to thwart outrage and massive protest across the country.
And remember, remember in November of 2020 that Donald Trump replaced officials in the pentagon with his own cronies. No one not even the press could quite understand why? Why would Trump do this at the last minute? Well, Trump did this because Trump knew that an insurrection would take place to overthrow the US government. And if successful, that riots would occur across the nation and military involvement would be necessary. This is why Trump needed HIS PEOPLE in place and in power at the pentagon.
NONE OF THIS has the committee investigated.
Imagine if Mike Pence had actually done what Donald Trump expected Pence to do, and Joe Biden had been denied his presidency, and riots had broken out across America, just imagine... Then, it absolutely would have been necessary for newly installed dictator Donald Trump to invoke the military across America to stamp out the outrage.
Yes.... Donald Trump definitely had this government overthrow well planned right down to replacing officials in the pentagon with loyalist to Donald Trump.
Remember, ‘firing them up to vote’ was Trump’s entire election strategy in 2018 and 2020 and he got buried for it.
Perhaps. But we have to remember that there are many "normies" out there who are not plugged into politics and the news like people online. Broadcasting this on national TV across many channels and having a narrative that is digestible and bits that are easily shared on social media should make the story go far. With most of the elections, we just need to move the needle a little bit to keep the fascists out.Like others have said ... I wasn't planning on watching it, but did anyway. Very powerful opening to the process that made obvious, logical points about what went on. The new video was really disturbing as well.
Problem is I think this will end up as "preaching to the choir". Not sure anyone's mind will be changed over this. Not even with the testimony from Trump insiders that they knew it wasn't a fraudulent election.
I hope you're right, but and that his historical inaction has been leading to this moment, but I remain highly skeptical.This is what I expected the committee to do and this is the primary reason why I stand by my position that Trump will be indicted. After this Garland will face enormous pressure to act and as Moonbeam said, I think he was looking for a congressional endorsement for action.
Well, his daughter finally screwed him yesterday for everyone to see... guess it wasn't what he hoped it would be...Trump just posted on Truth social according to C-SPAN, claiming it is all a lie, and that there was fraud in the election. Wow. Trump wants to screw himself even more and is still not learning a god damn thing from his mistakes.
Perhaps. But we have to remember that there are many "normies" out there who are not plugged into politics and the news like people online. Broadcasting this on national TV across many channels and having a narrative that is digestible and bits that are easily shared on social media should make the story go far. With most of the elections, we just need to move the needle a little bit to keep the fascists out.