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VRAMdemon

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There is part of me that would like to see Pence get the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his actions on January 6th. Not because I like Pence, or because I think he’s a hero for not committing treason.

It’s because I think it would be an epic move of schadenfreude. Pence would hate it, Pence hates it every time he’s reminded that the man whose asshole he licked for 4 years sent a lynch mob after him , even worse, that man won’t even give him a taste of that ass anymore.

There's a small chance Pence would accept, then we’d get a photo op of Biden giving Pence the award in front of a crowd of booing , frothing Trumpers shouting hang Mike Pence. And the Republicans would excoriate him, once again reminding the world that they’re treason weasels. And Biden makes a statement that he did this in the name of “unity and bipartisanship”. lol

After all, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, once a meaningful honor, is now totally debauched ever since Trump gave it to one of the most horrible persons to exist, the late, unlamented Rush Limbaugh.
 

VRAMdemon

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I would love to be wrong about this, but I don't have a good feeling as I type. No matter how serious the crime or solid the evidence, there’s a chance it’s going to be washed clean on January 21st, 2025. Trump promised as much last night in a speech to his lol ...“religious leaders”.

If a Republican wins, ANY Republican (other than Kinsinger or Cheney)... anyone that was convicted and jailed will be pardoned. Anyone under indictment will be pardoned. Any ongoing investigation will be dropped like a hot potato and they’ll begin persecuting the investigators. As I'm seeing, that’s why they have no intention of investigating the political actors…Eastman, Clark, Meadows, Navarro, Bannon, and Stone.

18 months that have passed with no apparent signs of investigation of those actors, but on the public statements of the investigators. Chris Wray, Barr’s partisan toady is willfully blind, he’s public stated that he doesn’t see a connection between Trump’s election loss and the mob violence and he’s referred to the entire Stop The Steal/election denier movement as “scattered online chatter”. So far. I see Garland being disingenuous, when he referred to prosecuting people that weren’t present I’m pretty sure he was referring to Tarrio, but he wanted everyone to think he was referring to the major players mentioned above.

It's possible they may be scared to prosecute Trump and his cronies because they might fail, Trump would crow endlessly. If he would win again, he’ll destroy their careers. My less rational self thinks that maybe they actually made a deal with Trump and agreed not to prosecute the people I listed above if he would refrain from pardoning them. The J6 committee is focused on Trump and not ‘the Trump wing of the Republican party’. And that, to me, smells of a bargain made. Again, I hope I'm wrong
 

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I would love to be wrong about this, but I don't have a good feeling as I type. No matter how serious the crime or solid the evidence, there’s a chance it’s going to be washed clean on January 21st, 2025. Trump promised as much last night in a speech to his lol ...“religious leaders”.

If a Republican wins, ANY Republican (other than Kinsinger or Cheney)... anyone that was convicted and jailed will be pardoned. Anyone under indictment will be pardoned. Any ongoing investigation will be dropped like a hot potato and they’ll begin persecuting the investigators. As I'm seeing, that’s why they have no intention of investigating the political actors…Eastman, Clark, Meadows, Navarro, Bannon, and Stone.

18 months that have passed with no apparent signs of investigation of those actors, but on the public statements of the investigators. Chris Wray, Barr’s partisan toady is willfully blind, he’s public stated that he doesn’t see a connection between Trump’s election loss and the mob violence and he’s referred to the entire Stop The Steal/election denier movement as “scattered online chatter”. So far. I see Garland being disingenuous, when he referred to prosecuting people that weren’t present I’m pretty sure he was referring to Tarrio, but he wanted everyone to think he was referring to the major players mentioned above.

It's possible they may be scared to prosecute Trump and his cronies because they might fail, Trump would crow endlessly. If he would win again, he’ll destroy their careers. My less rational self thinks that maybe they actually made a deal with Trump and agreed not to prosecute the people I listed above if he would refrain from pardoning them. The J6 committee is focused on Trump and not ‘the Trump wing of the Republican party’. And that, to me, smells of a bargain made. Again, I hope I'm wrong
This is not at all right. It’s completely obvious that the justice department is investigating Trump and his circle about 1/6. Also, Georgia currently has a grand jury empaneled that is weighing whether or not to indict Trump, and state charges can’t be federally pardoned.
 
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zinfamous

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There is part of me that would like to see Pence get the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his actions on January 6th. Not because I like Pence, or because I think he’s a hero for not committing treason.

It’s because I think it would be an epic move of schadenfreude. Pence would hate it, Pence hates it every time he’s reminded that the man whose asshole he licked for 4 years sent a lynch mob after him , even worse, that man won’t even give him a taste of that ass anymore.

There's a small chance Pence would accept, then we’d get a photo op of Biden giving Pence the award in front of a crowd of booing , frothing Trumpers shouting hang Mike Pence. And the Republicans would excoriate him, once again reminding the world that they’re treason weasels. And Biden makes a statement that he did this in the name of “unity and bipartisanship”. lol

After all, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, once a meaningful honor, is now totally debauched ever since Trump gave it to one of the most horrible persons to exist, the late, unlamented Rush Limbaugh.

this is dark.


I love it
 
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HomerJS

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There is part of me that would like to see Pence get the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his actions on January 6th. Not because I like Pence, or because I think he’s a hero for not committing treason.

It’s because I think it would be an epic move of schadenfreude. Pence would hate it, Pence hates it every time he’s reminded that the man whose asshole he licked for 4 years sent a lynch mob after him , even worse, that man won’t even give him a taste of that ass anymore.

There's a small chance Pence would accept, then we’d get a photo op of Biden giving Pence the award in front of a crowd of booing , frothing Trumpers shouting hang Mike Pence. And the Republicans would excoriate him, once again reminding the world that they’re treason weasels. And Biden makes a statement that he did this in the name of “unity and bipartisanship”. lol

After all, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, once a meaningful honor, is now totally debauched ever since Trump gave it to one of the most horrible persons to exist, the late, unlamented Rush Limbaugh.
What a dark idea! I think I love it!

Think he would show up to the ceremony?? What a conundrum!
 

iRONic

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“Hey Ron, nobody died on that Sikorsky S-76 helicopter you worked on last night. Here’s a gold medal! “

Shitlol 🤣🤣🤣
 

VRAMdemon

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This is not at all right. It’s completely obvious that the justice department is investigating Trump and his circle about 1/6. Also, Georgia currently has a grand jury empaneled that is weighing whether or not to indict Trump, and state charges can’t be federally pardoned.

Well ... I hope your right. I haven’t seen any indication that they’ve interviewed Eastman, Clark, Meadows, Bannon, Navarro, Stone - and those guys should’ve been the low-hanging fruit. I know the DOJ would not announce these interviews on a billboard, but those actors loyal subjects most likely would leak it. I have a hard time believing they interviewed those guys without anyone or everyone knowing. I was thinking about the “interviews aren’t that important” thing when the news broke that the DOJ desperately wanted the video’s and transcripts of the Committee’s interviews.

It seems the DOJ is getting pissed at the committee for not providing them when first asked a month ago.


Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), chair of the Jan. 6 select committee, has previously indicated concerns about the Justice Department’s blanket request for the committee’s transcripts.

“My understanding is they want to have access to our work product. And we told them, no, we’re not giving that to anybody,” he said last month.

The DOJ should’ve done their own interviews, anyway IMO. The House is not conducting a criminal investigation and an interview by a legislator is not a replacement for an interview by a skilled law enforcement investigator. I’m wondering if the reason the committee is reluctant to release the interviews is because they are under a very time- sensitive deadline, if they don’t get a report out by the end of the year, it’s not being released at all. I heard some speculation that if the interviews are converted to evidence in a DOJ proceeding, then there might be issues with publicly releasing them before the cases go to trial. In which case the committee is right to not release them.


It is “critical that the Department be able to evaluate the credibility of witnesses who have provided statements to the multiple governmental entities in assessing the strength of any potential criminal prosecutions,” they wrote, adding that failure to grant the DOJ access to these transcripts would complicate its ability to investigate and prosecute rioters.

This is possibly why the DOJ needs the Committee’s transcripts before finalizing the charges they intend to bring. Not to mention it’s a great check for perjury charges. so we'll see.

I have no ego in this discussion, I really want you to be right. But, I’ve been watching Trump maneuver and intimidate his way out of legal consequences for years. My outlook so far is not an outlier. While I hope for the best out of the Jan 6 committee and AG Garlands DOJ, I am going to prepare for the worst. I think that this country is too far gone to ever see proper justice served like Trump in handcuffs.
 

VRAMdemon

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Also ... Is Trump getting away with any criminal prosecution in the state of New York for tax & insurance fraud?

Last I heard was this:


The DA who said that Trump committed several crimes was resigning in protest since the Manhattan district attorney decided not to seek an indictment.

In his resignation letter, Pomerantz wrote that Vance had directed his deputies to present evidence to a grand jury and seek an indictment of Trump and other defendants “as soon as reasonably possible.” No former president has ever been charged with a crime.

“I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest,” Pomerantz wrote.

Moreover, Alvin Bragg did not renew the grand jury that had been convened to hand down indictments. Does it appears the case is effectively over? It seems, Bragg was too spineless to proceed without the cooperation of Allen Weisselberg – who did not cave to pressure to testify against Trump.

I will hold judgement because Bragg has said the case against Trump is not yet closed, but I’d say it’s gasping its last breaths on the shores of Failure Island.

I actually lay the blame for this more at the feet of Cyrus Vance Jr., former Manhattan DA. He could have brought those charges as he danced out the door into retirement with no consequence to himself, and leaving Bragg holding the bag for the actual prosecution. Which, according to lead prosecutors Mark Pomerantz and Carey Dunne, was winnable.

Something stinks, IMO.
 
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eelw

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But stepping on one’s toes, how will Raffensperger and Sterling testifying tomorrow affect Georgia DA grand jury case now?
 

sportage

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Remember.... I don't think Mike Pence refused to nullify the election because Mike Pence thought it was morally the wrong thing to do, I believe Mike Pence refused only because he knew he had no legal authority. This doesn't mean at all that Mike very much wanted to fully comply with Donald Trump's wishes. Pence did indeed want to comply.

I truly believe that Mike Pence indeed whole heartedly wanted to do Trump's bidding and void the election of Joe Biden, but knew he couldn't get away with it.
Mike Pence ran into a legal snag, and that was his problem. Mike Pence had no problem with doing Trump's bidding each and every day right up to January 6th. Correct!!!?

And make no mistake, if given the change Mike Pence would gladly vote for Donald Trump AGAIN. And so would most all republicans. That includes Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, Mitch McConnell. The ONLY republican that might not vote for Donald Trump in 2024 would be Liz Cheney. Maybe....
 

sportage

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PS.
But what ticks me off is the thought that after all of the hearings and investigations, it is very possible that no action will be taken against Donald Trump. And THAT makes democrats look like total losers. WHY and WHAT was the purpose of all this if not to hold Donald Trump accountable?????

And what really gets me, is watching those committee members who are now saying they have NO OPINION on whether or not the AG should go after Trump. SERIOUSLY???? After all this evidence and after all the smoking guns with Trump's finger prints on every gun, you Mr committee member CAN NOT SAY???

Committee member Rep. Jamie Raskin was all over the Sunday morning talk shows, with his squirming and double talk when asked about holding Trump accountable. After watching Jamie Raskin twist and turn with refusing to answer a simple question.... is it any wonder that all republicans believe this committee only a witch hunt and totally unnecessary.

We had that Muller investigation that went nowhere. Then we had TWO impeachments that also went nowhere. And NOW.... we are going to have a major committee investigation also lead to nowhere????

F-ing spineless democrats. F-ing spineless attorney general. WTF are they thinking??? Obviously, not much.
Not only will Donald Trump be fully exonerated because of the democrats incompetence, Trump is on his way to become your next president also because of the democrats incompetence. Enjoy THAT if you will.
 

sportage

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PSS...
And WHY are they (this committee) not also going after postmaster general Louis DeJoy????
DeJoy was part of THE PLOT to overthrow the election. Trump appointed Louis DeJoy because Trump knew nearly a year before the 2020 election that mail-in voters could pose a real threat to Donald Trump. Trump, or his people, seen this threat coming far before anyone else. Thus is why Donald Trump appointed Louis DeJoy as postmaster to do his part in removing mailboxes from minority areas, closing down local postal office's within democrat areas, Louis DeJoy played a major role in the coup attempt of 2020 yet Louis DeJoy is still there. Why? And no one on this committee are asking questions? Why?

Louis DeJoy will still be there when Donald Trump begins his second term as president.
 

eelw

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PS.
But what ticks me off is the thought that after all of the hearings and investigations, it is very possible that no action will be taken against Donald Trump. And THAT makes democrats look like total losers. WHY and WHAT was the purpose of all this if not to hold Donald Trump accountable?????
Okay genius, what pray tell can this house committee can do about holding a former administration CRIMINALLY responsible when they are a FRIGGING LEGISLATIVE committee. But federally, what really can they recommend to change how states handle electors? As for security concerns, failure occurred because administration didn’t allow capitol police to be armed.
 

Roger Wilco

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Um, so apparently a film crew documented the Trump circus in 2020...and the Trump admin didn't really know what was being filmed or why??? And now the footage is being subpoenaed, and Trump's Depends are working overtime.

“Former administration and campaign officials tell Rolling Stone they had no idea a film crew had months of access to the former president and his family.”

When we began this project in September 2020,
we could have never predicted that our work would one day be subpoenaed by Congress,” he said. “As a British filmmaker, I had no agenda coming into this. We simply wanted to better understand who the Trumps were and what motivated them to hold onto power so desperately.

Per CBS’ Robert Costa: Trump campaign folks “recall a film crew coming to HQ at least once. They also remember it being odd because campaign’s legal team seemed surprised, as if it was an unvetted project. … The campaign’s lawyers were like, ‘Huh, what is this? What’s going on today?’ Saw it as another side project from the family/Trump confidants.”

Per NYT’s Maggie Haberman: “A very small group of people had knowledge of this documentary project, and a lot of Trump advisers were surprised to see it existed this morning. … Senior campaign officials were unaware of the project, according to one former official.”

 

eelw

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Meeting between Az speaker and guilinni and Ellis. Did you bring the bring evidence to your claims? No. We have hunches but no proof
 
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iRONic

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PSS...
And WHY are they (this committee) not also going after postmaster general Louis DeJoy????
DeJoy was part of THE PLOT to overthrow the election. Trump appointed Louis DeJoy because Trump knew nearly a year before the 2020 election that mail-in voters could pose a real threat to Donald Trump. Trump, or his people, seen this threat coming far before anyone else. Thus is why Donald Trump appointed Louis DeJoy as postmaster to do his part in removing mailboxes from minority areas, closing down local postal office's within democrat areas, Louis DeJoy played a major role in the coup attempt of 2020 yet Louis DeJoy is still there. Why? And no one on this committee are asking questions? Why?

Louis DeJoy will still be there when Donald Trump begins his second term as president.
Remember.... I don't think Mike Pence refused to nullify the election because Mike Pence thought it was morally the wrong thing to do, I believe Mike Pence refused only because he knew he had no legal authority. This doesn't mean at all that Mike very much wanted to fully comply with Donald Trump's wishes. Pence did indeed want to comply.

I truly believe that Mike Pence indeed whole heartedly wanted to do Trump's bidding and void the election of Joe Biden, but knew he couldn't get away with it.
Mike Pence ran into a legal snag, and that was his problem. Mike Pence had no problem with doing Trump's bidding each and every day right up to January 6th. Correct!!!?

And make no mistake, if given the change Mike Pence would gladly vote for Donald Trump AGAIN. And so would most all republicans. That includes Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, Mitch McConnell. The ONLY republican that might not vote for Donald Trump in 2024 would be Liz Cheney. Maybe....
PS.
But what ticks me off is the thought that after all of the hearings and investigations, it is very possible that no action will be taken against Donald Trump. And THAT makes democrats look like total losers. WHY and WHAT was the purpose of all this if not to hold Donald Trump accountable?????

And what really gets me, is watching those committee members who are now saying they have NO OPINION on whether or not the AG should go after Trump. SERIOUSLY???? After all this evidence and after all the smoking guns with Trump's finger prints on every gun, you Mr committee member CAN NOT SAY???

Committee member Rep. Jamie Raskin was all over the Sunday morning talk shows, with his squirming and double talk when asked about holding Trump accountable. After watching Jamie Raskin twist and turn with refusing to answer a simple question.... is it any wonder that all republicans believe this committee only a witch hunt and totally unnecessary.

We had that Muller investigation that went nowhere. Then we had TWO impeachments that also went nowhere. And NOW.... we are going to have a major committee investigation also lead to nowhere????

F-ing spineless democrats. F-ing spineless attorney general. WTF are they thinking??? Obviously, not much.
Not only will Donald Trump be fully exonerated because of the democrats incompetence, Trump is on his way to become your next president also because of the democrats incompetence. Enjoy THAT if you will.
Breath, mang. Breath…
 
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