The J6 committee up to this point had done a pretty good job, but I feel like they dropped the ball today especially with all the hype. Should have just focused on what Hutchinson actually heard or was direct witness to (weapons at the rally, they're not here to hurt me, etc, plenty here to unpack). Instead they let her second hand hearsay about some sideshow nonsense become a massive talking point for the RW media system and it risks diluting her entire testimony, or worse yet, calling the entire thing into question. You'd think after 6 years the Dems would have this figured out yet they still continue to look a couple steps behind. Even if the SS agents never testify under the oath, the damage to her credibility is likely done, even if it's a little bit - and more importantly, notice how the attention has been shifted away from the more critical parts of her testimony.
Why even mention the dishes or trying to grab the steering wheel? Seems like going out of their way to take a shot at the guy when instead they need to be focusing on bringing an airtight case against those who organized this thing. Good for a laugh, but at the expense of your witness' credibility? FOCUS.
Dude really.When you have a 25 year female old testifying before congress. You have to ask yourself a couple of questions. Why is she calling these high ranking Trump officials by first names in her deposition. The next question is the insurrection happened a year and a half ago. That would put her at age 23-24. I suspect the purpose for the role in the Trump administration was for other purposes.
You are absolutely right that his temperament was out there for all to see before November 2016. It’s just that it had absolutely no impact on his voters.It has amazed me since I first heard him announce his candidacy in 2015 that anyone could not see who this man is. To anyone who has paid any fucking attention whatsoever, not one thing he has done is the slightest bit surprising. Even the small stuff like throwing food when he's angry, like a child throwing a trantrum. I mean, HRC said it, in 2016, "Donald Tump is tempermentally unfit to be President of the United States." My first thought when I heard that was, well DUH.
While I make no claim to be any sort of expert on the Presidents various Limousines or SUV’s or whatever modes of transportation that require a driver. I do imagine them all having video cameras in them.
yes, that's their entire job.
You are absolutely right that his temperament was out there for all to see before November 2016. It’s just that it had absolutely no impact on his voters.
He said denigrating things about Hispanic immigrants on TV and Twitter. Many of his voters thought finally someone who knows how much damage these immigrants are doing - taking our jobs and gangs bringing drugs and guns into our kids schools putting our kids at risk.
He said denigrating things about Muslims too. His voters thought this guy gets it. They are terrorists who want to shoot and blow up Americans and die while doing it. Don’t let them in the country.
He was a “billionaire” & a “deal maker” on that TV show. He was going to save this country from bankruptcy. Why he could probably just wipe out the debt from his own bank accounts.
He was angry and they were angry. He hated all the things they hated.
So the fact that he had absolutely no leadership qualities and has skirted business laws his entire life had absolutely no bearing on their desire to vote for him.
I personally hope that Trump doesn't run again. I also hope that Biden or Harris don't run either. I would find it hard to vote for Trump again, Biden is past his use by date and Kamala Harris is worthless by any measure. I can't imagine she being President of the US.
Mostly stuff we knew. Orange monkey didn’t care about hang pence chants. SS the morning of saw many people were armed but weren’t allowed past metal detectors for the rally. Orange monkey told them remove the detectors, let them all in. The new part, when SS told him they couldn’t secure the scene to allow him to march to the capitol, he grabbed at the steering wheel in attempt to take control and tried to strange his SS head. But meadows totally indifferent in the day. Didn’t want to bother the orange monkey in the residence. She wasn’t in the room with him though during the afternoon
He doesn't need a crystal ball, he needs a mirror.The fact that he thinks we needed a crystal ball to predict that Trump would do shitty things is pretty telling. Especially considering the fact that he was here on these forums in 2015 when we were shouting from the roof tops that Trump would do shitty things.
Anyways he's completely missing the point, it's not about "needing a crystal ball" to know what would happen in the future, it's about reflecting on what has happened in the past and acknowledging that you had poor judgement and made a mistake. That is how you grow as a person and avoid making a similar mistake in the future without the need of a crystal ball. Not surprisingly this is a foreign concept to him and millions of his peers.
Where's starbuck when you need him. He had plenty of mirrors and bullshit laying around.He doesn't need a crystal ball, he needs a mirror.
You claimed her testimony changed zero minds so why do you care anyway?The J6 committee up to this point had done a pretty good job, but I feel like they dropped the ball today especially with all the hype. Should have just focused on what Hutchinson actually heard or was direct witness to (weapons at the rally, they're not here to hurt me, etc, plenty here to unpack). Instead they let her second hand hearsay about some sideshow nonsense become a massive talking point for the RW media system and it risks diluting her entire testimony, or worse yet, calling the entire thing into question. You'd think after 6 years the Dems would have this figured out yet they still continue to look a couple steps behind. Even if the SS agents never testify under the oath, the damage to her credibility is likely done, even if it's a little bit - and more importantly, notice how the attention has been shifted away from the more critical parts of her testimony.
Why even mention the dishes or trying to grab the steering wheel? Seems like going out of their way to take a shot at the guy when instead they need to be focusing on bringing an airtight case against those who organized this thing. Good for a laugh, but at the expense of your witness' credibility? FOCUS.
The fact that he thinks we needed a crystal ball to predict that Trump would do shitty things is pretty telling. Especially considering the fact that he was here on these forums in 2015 when we were shouting from the roof tops that Trump would do shitty things.
Anyways he's completely missing the point, it's not about "needing a crystal ball" to know what would happen in the future, it's about reflecting on what has happened in the past and acknowledging that you had poor judgement and made a mistake. That is how you grow as a person and avoid making a similar mistake in the future without the need of a crystal ball. Not surprisingly this is a foreign concept to him and millions of his peers.
He doesn't need a crystal ball, he needs a mirror.
You claimed her testimony changed zero minds so why do you care anyway?
Doesn't roll off the tongue like buttery males...But his voicemails!
If you couldn't tell Trump was a narcissistic, dangerous, corrupt dirtbag from the get go, maybe you should question your sources of information.No I didn't. Don't blame me if your reading skills are lacking.
You asked if I had any regrets and I answered in my response as quoted here:
"I don't have "regrets" about anything. Unfortunately I don't have a crystal ball and cannot fore tell the future as many on the left seem to claim they are able to do. "
exactly, this whole "I have no regrets" thing. I've never met a person anywhere that claims to have no regrets, and is also not one of the dumbest people I've ever known.
Being proud of having "no regrets" means you haven't learned dick about anything as you stumble through life, wondering why all your decisions have been terrible and your life is still shitty....of course it must be someone else's fault that you are miserable, because you of course have "no regrets!"
The idea that it is impossible to change minds is demonstrably false and flies in the face of real world outcomes. I imagine your dumb 2020 election prediction was based on this idea and it seems you have learned nothing.You could argue that the entire committee's work, while vital, will probably change zero minds. This is probably true of all politics as of 2016.
Doesn't mean that they should expose their witnesses to RW media attacks.
But that’s the sad state of the American voter, not looking past personal issues (inflation) and willing to potentially reeelect that clown show or even reelect people that helped in his corruption. Well if too stupid to vote D in November, burn it all down. Hopefully what rises from the ashes it a somewhat decent societyYou could argue that the entire committee's work, while vital, will probably change zero minds. This is probably true of all politics as of 2016.
Doesn't mean that they should expose their witnesses to RW media attacks.