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repoman0

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I so wish republicans had run on your "US workers are lazy and helpless" message.
He is a retired sponge soaking up social security and Medicare money while calling the entirety of the rest of working US society with a 4% unemployment rate lazy. You know, the ones paying his bills and subsidizing his life.
 

fskimospy

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He is a retired sponge soaking up social security and Medicare money while calling the entirety of the rest of working US society with a 4% unemployment rate lazy. You know, the ones paying his bills and subsidizing his life.
I think the problem is more that his personal political desires and reality are in conflict so he’s trying to find a way to remake reality instead of changing his mind.

‘Deport immigrants’ and ‘labor shortage’ are in conflict. It’s a lot more comforting if you just pretend there’s a secret, untapped pool of non-immigrant labor waiting in the wings because then you don’t have to admit conservative immigration policy is dumb.
 
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MrSquished

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I think the problem is more that his personal political desires and reality are in conflict so he’s trying to find a way to remake reality instead of changing his mind.

‘Deport immigrants’ and ‘labor shortage’ are in conflict. It’s a lot more comforting if you just pretend there’s a secret, untapped pool of non-immigrant labor waiting in the wings because then you don’t have to admit conservative immigration policy is dumb.
I think the problem is he's just a piece of shit trying to justify his shittiness, like all those piece of shit Trump voters.
 

akugami

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Florida did a lite version of what Trump wants to do and surprise surprise there are labor shortages, prices rose, and businesses are flirting with inviability. Conservatives are really willing to press the self destruct buttons on their economies.

Thanks Obama.
 
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akugami

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@fskimospy

What a surprise. Austin is building out at the third highest rate in the country and its rent is dropping.

More housing needs to happen in the northeast USA. There are inherent challenges in raising more houses to an already densely populated region, but it is doable. For instance, in the last 10 years, I've noticed more apartment complexes (condos?) surrounding the King of Prussia area in PA.

You want to build further these apartment complexes further out from the major city centers, to spread out the population a bit. Public transportation into and out of the new housing areas is a must, to help alleviate traffic. And the apartment complexes need to be designed so that there is a community center, where people can do indoor things like play basketball in inclement weather, as well as access for outdoor activities. If you design it right, it builds a better community that promotes growth. What you don't want is to just cram people like sardines into a high rise building.
 

K1052

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More housing needs to happen in the northeast USA. There are inherent challenges in raising more houses to an already densely populated region, but it is doable. For instance, in the last 10 years, I've noticed more apartment complexes (condos?) surrounding the King of Prussia area in PA.

You want to build further these apartment complexes further out from the major city centers, to spread out the population a bit. Public transportation into and out of the new housing areas is a must, to help alleviate traffic. And the apartment complexes need to be designed so that there is a community center, where people can do indoor things like play basketball in inclement weather, as well as access for outdoor activities. If you design it right, it builds a better community that promotes growth. What you don't want is to just cram people like sardines into a high rise building.

Some of suburbia is more amenable than others to adding housing. Long Island residents would rather see NYC taken out by hydrogen bombs before agreeing to letting apartments get built.
 

MrSquished

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Some of suburbia is more amenable than others to adding housing. Long Island residents would rather see NYC taken out by hydrogen bombs before agreeing to letting apartments get built.
Jersey suburbanites are not too much better but the Long Island folks add another level of rabid madness to their hate. It's insane there are LIRR stations that don't have any real density right near them, and in fact often have parking lots and total wasted space.

Too many people are too stupid, too selfish, and too unevolved in this country and are simply blocking any chances of improving basically everything, from housing prices to healthcare and everything in between. Fuck them all to hell.
 
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K1052

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Jersey suburbanites are not too much better but the Long Island folks add another level of rabid madness to their hate. It's insane there are LIRR stations that don't have any real density right near them, and in fact often have parking lots and total wasted space.

Especially since the MTA has poured so many billions into the LIRR. Transit agencies should stop spending money on places that won't accommodate more housing because it is just a waste of money.
 

Indus

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Some of suburbia is more amenable than others to adding housing. Long Island residents would rather see NYC taken out by hydrogen bombs before agreeing to letting apartments get built.

Queens residents too!

But it seems people sell their properties and when enough of them are owned by 1 person/ company. here comes the high rise apartments. Then you have an exodus of people who don't like the new neighborhood.
 
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People get pushed down the housing ladder until they fall off it in some sick game of musical chairs, because we, as a society, have collectively decided to restrict supply in the places people want to live. And ultimately, the people really taking it on the chin are those at the bottom:

 

fskimospy

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People get pushed down the housing ladder until they fall off it in some sick game of musical chairs, because we, as a society, have collectively decided to restrict supply in the places people want to live. And ultimately, the people really taking it on the chin are those at the bottom:

And yet ostensibly liberal people flip out when you try to increase supply because reasons.
 

MtnMan

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The labor isn't essential. The problem is a society that's become lazy and helpless.
So, tell us about your "labor" you stupid fuck. Dawn to dusk doing stoop labor in some farmer's field in a state that doesn't even mandate water breaks, or dawn to dusk in a construction job, building homes you can't afford, or laying down asphalt on a street in on a 90 degree day. Tell us how you are not the "lazy and helpless" asshole!
 

Greenman

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"luxury" is just a marketing term anyway. It simply means new for like 95% of rental projects. I've toured "luxury" buildings that boast the finest grey vinyl plank floors and base model stainless steel appliances money can buy.
The practice of using undefined terms in sales is time honored.
"Sell the sizzle, not the steak" is the cornerstone of marketing.
 
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"luxury" is just a marketing term anyway. It simply means new for like 95% of rental projects. I've toured "luxury" buildings that boast the finest grey vinyl plank floors and base model stainless steel appliances money can buy.
For sure. Though, having lived in old crappy stuff and newer mass-market developments, I'd prefer the latter. Having plugs in convenient spots, properly sized kitchen space, modern heating/cooling, and modern fire standards is pretty awesome. I like not living in an old triple decker, where every year, a few just decide to go up in flames thanks to following the wonderful fire standards of 1910.
 
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