Somehow it's not racism when it's the minority doing the segregating, but that's a whole other rant/thread.
As for the gay pride parade, you make a valid point there, I don't really see the appeal, if there were a straight parade people would go mental. The same as having black pride parades (or whatever they are called) if the same thing happens for white people, they are called racists, I don't understand the appeal of these parades, they are segregating.
Somehow it's not racism when it's the minority doing the segregating, but that's a whole other rant/thread.
As for the gay pride parade, you make a valid point there, I don't really see the appeal, if there were a straight parade people would go mental. The same as having black pride parades (or whatever they are called) if the same thing happens for white people, they are called racists, I don't understand the appeal of these parades, they are segregating.
The first Gay Prides were about showing that gays existed and had the same rights as the rest. Later they became more and more 'Look at me being ubergay!', which actually hurt the gay society more than it helped as homophobes used that as an argument to say they were clearly not normal. A lot of gays avoid those parades for that reason.
I am completely for 100% equal rights for gays. Go go gay marriage, adios DADT, etc. But I don't like watching men kiss. According to a broad definition this makes me at least somewhat homophobic. We already know that we're all a little bit racist. So being a little bit homophobic doesn't keep me up at night.
I always wondered why there are "gay events" or what people mean by "gay culture." What have gays, and bi-sexuals been fighting for all along? Equality; to be treated the same as everyone else right? So then if the only thing which makes them different is their sexual orientation why do they force others to view them as different by having their own events/culture?
Yea, this always made me scratch my head. They want equality but they also want to separate themselves as well.
Why is this confusing. Being treated equally has nothing to do with not having a subculture.
Gay is not a "subculture" imo. Being a hipster, or a hippie, or a metalhead, or a geek, or a gamer is a subculture. Gay is a sexual orientation and nothing else. There is no "gay lifestyle" just as there is no "black lifestyle." There is only fulfilling stereotypes such as "acting gay" or "acting black," but that does not constitute a subculture.
I will try to explain more what I mean. If we look at a specific example of a subculture such as metalheads they tend to have a specific style, attitude, preferences, opinions, and lifestyle choices. Of course not everyone in that specific subculture is going to be exactly the same, but overall the trend will be the same. Now try to apply that to gays. Because a man is attracted to another man, or a woman to a woman that doesn't indicate they are going to dress/act/think/live the same as other gays. Perhaps there is a "gay nightlife" subculture, just as there is a straight nightlife subculture (people who go clubbing, and looking for someone to hook up with), but I don't believe"gay" in itelf can be considered a subculture.
Gay is not a "subculture" imo. Being a hipster, or a hippie, or a metalhead, or a geek, or a gamer is a subculture. Gay is a sexual orientation and nothing else. There is no "gay lifestyle" just as there is no "black lifestyle." There is only fulfilling stereotypes such as "acting gay" or "acting black," but that does not constitute a subculture.
That I have to disagree with if you go to enough gay clubs/ bars/ or very gay areas like Soho at night, you'll find there's definitely a gay sub culture.
A gay guy is automatically thought to be very effeminate while a lesbian is thought to be butch and mannish. Obviously this isn't correct
I agree with this. I can understand that being gay is not a choice but "adopting" a subculture is a choice. When you blur the lines between the two you really end up hurting your equality movement because the subculture will automatically be associated with the sexual orientation, which is the case with gays. A gay guy is automatically thought to be very effeminate while a lesbian is thought to be butch and mannish. Obviously this isn't correct, but the blending of homosexuality and the "gay subculture" has made it so. Average Joe won't separate the two from each other and you end up screwing yourself over.
That's all fine and dandy, but that's not what we're talking about. dpodblood and I are specifically talking about gay pride marches and the like, not what gays are doing at night in a "very gay" part of town. A subculture SHOULD NOT be a representation of an entire grouping of people with a different sexual orientation than the majority.
HAL, I don't know what to tell you about your friend. Telling your friend that you love him when you know that he is not comfortable with your lifestyle was a bad judgement call on your end and you shouldn't get pissed off at heterosexuals because you made a shitty call.
Ok HAL I accept that you are bisexual but are you also biwinning?
Do you guys in the UK call whole milk homo milk? In Canada we do so that's where the joke is.
I'm bisexual, bipolar and biwinning!
Sorry to hear about the bipolar. That can be rough. I've suffered from depression myself for many years.
Ahhh.... Lol no, we call it whole milk or sometimes full fat.
It really does suck, but I struggle through, It's just a part of what makes me, me sometimes it's brilliant, other times it's awful but whatever it is it's never dull.
Yeah It's short for homogenized milk.