how to overclock

[muzj]

I just bought a new computer, with AMD64 3000+ S939, Asus A8N-SLi, 1 GB Kingston value Ram. I heard that my processor is running 1.5V, and can be overclocked to 1.65V. Is it true? Do I need high performance Ram in order to overclock? thanks

 

[Amplifier]

Not at all, just read Zebo's guide and if you still have any questions I'll be happy to answer them.

 

[muzj]

I don't quite understand how to overclock, since its my first time trying it.
izit set the multiplier to max, then increase the voltage slowly?
if i overclock my processor, will my Ram also be overclocked?

 

[Amplifier]

Dude, you need to be running your Memory on at least a 4:3 ratio with HTT of 4x maximum then you can start upping your FSB to the 240-250 level.

Read Zebo's guide drok .

 

[muzj]

can u tell me exactly how to do all those stuffs? how to run my memory at 4:3?
wat is the HTT for my processor now? its AMD 3000+ S939.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: Amplifier
Not at all, just read Zebo's guide and if you still have any questions I'll be happy to answer them.

Quick and dirty A64 clocking guide

 

[peleejosh]

dont increase your cpu voltage until you need to. that is a quick way to kill the cpu.

 

[muzj]

so i'm supposed to set my multiplier to max, then slowly increase my HTT slowly. then use 95% of the max. but because i'm using a value ram, my ram is clocked at 210MHz, that's y i need to use a mem divider. am i right?

how to get a mem divider?
i'm using AMD's original heat sink and fan, how far can i oc? let say 9x225?
if my HTT is set at 225, then my memsetting will be 225x0.9=202.5, then its ok right?

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AMD Winchester 3000+
Asus A8N-SLi
1 GB Kingston Value Ram
160GB Maxtor SATA
MSI RX300

 

[CheesePoofs]

Originally posted by: muzj
so i'm supposed to set my multiplier to max, then slowly increase my HTT slowly. then use 95% of the max. but because i'm using a value ram, my ram is clocked at 210MHz, that's y i need to use a mem divider. am i right?

how to get a mem divider?
i'm using AMD's original heat sink and fan, how far can i oc? let say 9x225?
if my HTT is set at 225, then my memsetting will be 225x0.9=202.5, then its ok right?

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AMD Winchester 3000+
Asus A8N-SLi
1 GB Kingston Value Ram
160GB Maxtor SATA
MSI RX300

I don't mean this in a rude way, but you might want to learn a bit more about computers before you try to OC your rig. Just do some reading into what all the terms mean and how all of the different settings work and relate to each other (like HTT, LTD, mem divider, etc).

 

[IntegraGSR]

on pages 56 and 57 of the manual (pdf manual) it discusses the memclock index value. your options are 100mhz, 133mhz, 166mhz, and 200mhz... this will be your memory devider..

now say you want to overclock your HTT(FSB) to 400mhz (hypothetical situation ).. if you set the memclock index value to 100mhz.. it would give you a ratio of 1:2 (htt:ram).. so your htt would be running at 400mhz and ram at 200mhz (stock speeds).. you have a choice of either figuring out a htt/ratio to make your ram run at stock speeds.. however if you want to get the most out of your overclocking as possible, the ram most likely isn't going to be right at 200, but maybe a little over or a little under.

"if my HTT is set at 225, then my memsetting will be 225x0.9=202.5, then its ok right?"

yes, that should be fine :thumbsup:

as far as you will be able to overclock with stock cooling.. that is something you'll have to find out for youself, really.. every processor is different, not to mention differences in ambient temperate that have the potential to make a huge difference in temps which will effect your overclock

hope that helps.

edit: i agree with cheesepoofs.. browse a couple different forums or just google it and read up a bit more before changing settings.. also, i suggest reading through the bios part of your manual (or download the pdf from their site).. its not a hard concept, or a hard thing to do at all, but there's a lot of stuff to learn before diving into overclocking..

 

[muzj]

yupp, i am doing some research from the internet, but still cant find any good website to get those information.
do you have any idea of any website that i can get more information?

 

[IntegraGSR]

http://www.google.com/search?q=athlon+6...client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial

i always start with google when researching something :thumbsup:

 

[muzj]

thanks a lot, i'll try to read out some material, then i'll come back with some questions.

 

[muzj]

oh ya, how to search for information of what is HTT, LDT, Mem divider, Multiplier...?

 

[Brian23]

I also agree it really depends on what you're doing with your alcohol. If you're just surfing the web, sending e-mail, typing up letters in Word, and playing Solitaire, of course over-drinking won't make any noticeable difference. Heck, I can do all that with a 233oz beer and it works just fine.

But if you're playing serious drinking games (ie HL2/Doom3) over-drinking can increase your performance. That can translate into either smoother gameplay, or (more importantly) being able to sustain an acceptable blood-alcohol rate while increasing visual factors. If you're blacking out, it means you're done faster. Same with editing your own. Or pretty much any other Brain intensive work your average user will do.

I hear what you're saying though. Outside of gaming performance, most comes down to just "saving time." At the most, we're talking a matter of minutes. For most people, I'm sure that's not a big deal. Especially when we're talking about state of the art technology like Budweiser. At stock, that beer is going to be faster than 90% of what your average users are using. Over-drinking past that certainly will seem overkill to them.

For me though, over-drinking has many benefits. One is of course value. I too recently purchased a Budweiser. Sure, Anheuser offers many other, more expensive beers. Since I'm on a budget, I can purchase the less expensive model and obtain the performance of a faster model via over-drinking. Prior to this, I had a MGD which I overdrank to Coors Light speeds. That brain lasted me 2 years, and is still going strong (only reason I upgraded is that my wife needed one. WoW on! so she got it and I got a new beer).

Which leads me to another benefit. Over-drinking extends the time needed before upgrading. Since my beers are always modest and within safe parameters, I've never had a brain "die" on me due to over-drinking, even after years of running it drunk. I'm the type of person that expects a beer to meet my needs for a minimum of 2 years. Over-drinking helps me achieve that. So while overdrinking my beer may not benefit me very much today, in the long run it will help me put off upgrading once brainss are available that require such power to run quickly.

And last of all, it's simply free brain. Who wouldn't say no to that? Even if all I could safely over-drink was 100oz on my couch, I'd still take it over stock. Faster is faster, and faster beer for free is always good in my book. Will I notice it while pissing on message boards? Likely not, but in the back of my mind I'll know that I'm getting free beer when I run. take advantage of it.

 

[muzj]

i checked amd website to find out the HTT of my processor, it is written that the HTT is 2000Mhz. is HTT the same with FSB? because the 1.8GHz comes from 9x200MHz, then what is the 200 MHz then? aren't it supposed to be multiplier times FSB? how do i know what multiplier and FSB that my processor is currently running? thanks a lot.

 

[IntegraGSR]

Originally posted by: muzj
i checked amd website to find out the HTT of my processor, it is written that the HTT is 2000Mhz. is HTT the same with FSB? because the 1.8GHz comes from 9x200MHz, then what is the 200 MHz then? aren't it supposed to be multiplier times FSB? how do i know what multiplier and FSB that my processor is currently running? thanks a lot.

somewhere in your bios you should find an LDT multiplier that should default to 5x. with all stock speeds 5 x 200mhz (htt/fsb) = 1000mhz.. the reason its said to have 2000mhz HTT is due to the fact that for every cycle, its able to handle twice as much information (in everest you will notice your DDR400 ram will show 200mhz).. maybe someone can do a better job explaining this aspect.. with the a64s, htt and fsb are the same thing.

HTT(FSB) x cpu multiplier = cpu speed
HTT(FSB) x LDT multiplier x 2 = total HTT speed (the 2000mhz you were talking about)
HTT(FSB) x ram multiplier x 2 = ddr rating (ie. ddr400)

ideally you want HTT x LDT multiplier to be ~1000mhz.. but there seems to be little if any performance loss with it being lower, unless its extremely low (<400mhz)

you could download a program like everest (google search for "everest download"). it'll tell you all kinds of info about your hardware

 

[Quentin]

Brian23, that was great! :laugh: After a couple of fast beers, I understood it! Thanks for taking the time, very creative... :thumbsup:

 

[Amplifier]

:beer: Brian... here have another 100oz of beer on me :beer:~