Mostly for Handbrake, it has 4x8 Gb DDR3 1866 in quad channel. I can pick up a E5-2690 v2 for 15USD on ebay so thought I would might grab one. The E5-2695 v2 only hits 2.8 Ghz not sure why temps seem ok.What is the use case? What would be the rest of the system?
I have several friends interested in gaming PC but don't have a lot of money. Which of these CPU's would be best for gaming. I'm trying to keep the build under 400USD. I can get a base system for 150.00 and all the these CPU's are under 30USD though the prices seem to vary. I'm thinking the 8 core CPU's would be the best?
E5-2690 v2 10 core 3.0-3.6Ghz
E5-2667 v2 8 core 3.3-4.0Ghz
E5-2687 v2 8 core 3.4-4.0Ghz
E5-2697 v2 12 core 2.7-3.5Ghz
E5-1660 v2 6 core 3.7-4.0Ghz
Sure they are old but they still have plenty of performance for entry level gaming. They are practically free. If I was doing a budget build for myself you might be right but I can get a base system with Case/MB/64Gb ram/PS and even CPU for 150USB. I wanted to upgrade the CPU for a few extra dollars. I was looking at maybe an RX590 or RX 5700/5700XT or 1080ti. The system doesn't have to run 2024 A1 titles.Probably one of the 8 cores but those are really old at this point. It might be better to just save some money and eventually get something newer. You could probably get some used parts and build an AM4 system on the cheaper side these days. The 5600X is selling for just under $100 on ebay. Pair that with a cheap motherboard and RAM and that would be far better than any Ivy Bridge CPU.
Or wait for deals like one currently on Amazon. A 5600X for $120, but that sale ends in just over 3 hours. ALso, what do you plan on using for a GPU if the budget is <$400?
Sure they are old but they still have plenty of performance for entry level gaming. They are practically free. If I was doing a budget build for myself you might be right but I can get a base system with Case/MB/64Gb ram/PS and even CPU for 150USB. I wanted to upgrade the CPU for a few extra dollars. I was looking at maybe an RX590 or RX 5700/5700XT or 1080ti. The system doesn't have to run 2024 A1 titles.
Yeah Ivy Bridge was awesome a just a decade or so ago. It is hard for people around here to suggest anything below a certain level.Sure they are old but they still have plenty of performance for entry level gaming.
Yeah Ivy Bridge was awesome a just a decade or so ago. It is hard for people around here to suggest anything below a certain level.
If we are just talking about gaming I've historically preferred narrow and fast to wide and slow (within reason) because some tasks just don't scale well.
Please have a quick peek at this chart, notice that as expected the CPUs with higher core counts do better in multi-threaded, while lower core counts do better with single threaded, as expected:
I wonder, how do chips like the E5 1660 v3 and the E5 2699 v3 compare?
No expert here, but are we talking 2011 vs 2011-3 sockets ?Probably a good bit better. You have the update to Haswell and you also get AVX2 on top of that which I imagine would help with Handbrake. I figured they were a different socket but it seems they are not. One would still have to check with motherboard support though.
No expert here, but are we talking 2011 vs 2011-3 sockets ?
In gaming? It's difficult to find benchmarks for a lot of the server chips but there are some and they perform extremely well. Here is a 3700x vs E5-2689. The benchmarks are pretty impressive and the E5-2689 is a Sandy Bridge. The Ivy Bridge I assume with do even better.I wonder, how do chips like the E5 1660 v3 and the E5 2699 v3 compare?
True but the 5600x alone is almost the same price as the whole Ivy Bridge system. Haswell/Broadwell are better but cost more. I can get an E5-2667 v2 for 24USD, an E5-2687 v2 for 30. A base system would run over 400USD before the GPU. The Ivy bridge system might need a PS upgrade so that might increase the base price.Well yes, but they get their butts kicked in every possible way.
The Ivy Bridge is 2011 and the Haswell/Broadwell are 2011-3 I think.I just looked them up real quick on the Intel Ark. I think you are right.
Careful. AVX2 was only introduced with Haswell, but is already over 10 years old. There have been several games in the past few years which did not work with older CPUs not supporting AVX2 out of the box and only later were patched to allow running without it.
I would assume at some point developers won't bother supporting rigs that old any more. If your CPU doesn't support an extension, that's it, it's e-waste at that point. It won't lock you out of much currently, but that will change quickly given mobile devices have more powerful CPUs than these ancient chips at this point.
My question would be, unless price is prohibitive, why invest in such an old platform ? Also, you need old memory (DDR2 ? DDR3 ?) which may be hard to get/expensive and features like sata may not be there or very slow...That's why I made sure to mention AVX2. It will almost certainly speed up Handbrake, but you don't actually need it for that. I knew AVX only games were a thing, but I didn't know we reached the point where now AVX2 is required as well for some.
It makes sense. AVX2 has been out forever now and is a pretty big deal. There is a reason you can get those parts at fire sale prices. How much more would a Haswell/Broadwell version cost?
The Ivy Bridge platform uses DDR3 ECC. I just got 4x16Gb PC1866 ECC Samsung for 28USD. They run in quad channel so you are getting DDR4 dual channel bandwidth. Not sure if latency is better or worse. They have USB 3.0 and SATA 6. The Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake all support AVX2 but are more expensive. Skylake uses ECC DDR4 which is more expensive. 4x16Gb Micron PC2666 cost me about 100USD.My question would be, unless price is prohibitive, why invest in such an old platform ? Also, you need old memory (DDR2 ? DDR3 ?) which may be hard to get/expensive and features like sata may not be there or very slow...
Which is why you can pick these CPU's up for next to nothing. 99% of people who use Xeon systems , mostly businesses I assume, aren't looking for used chips. I payed 15USD for an e5-2690 v2. Not sure what they actually sold for but they listed at 2061USD when they came out. I don't see the big deal about AVX2. So you might not be able to run something that comes out 2 years from now. I'm doing super budget builds. The games benchmarked in the youtube video all ran fine on a Sandy bridge.I would assume at some point developers won't bother supporting rigs that old any more. If your CPU doesn't support an extension, that's it, it's e-waste at that point. It won't lock you out of much currently, but that will change quickly given mobile devices have more powerful CPUs than these ancient chips at this point.
My question would be, unless price is prohibitive, why invest in such an old platform ? Also, you need old memory (DDR2 ? DDR3 ?) which may be hard to get/expensive and features like sata may not be there or very slow...
Of course, but your givin CPU budget is $30. You are 3 or 4x over budget. Of course you can do better by spending 3 or 4x as much.Well yes, but they get their butts kicked in every possible way.
None of these builds are for me, they are for people on very tight budgets who want to be able to try PC gaming so 500 is over budget.Of course, but your givin CPU budget is $30. You are 3 or 4x over budget. Of course you can do better by spending 3 or 4x as much.
None of these builds are for me, they are for people on very tight budgets who want to be able to try PC gaming so 500 is over budget.