Human evolution vs Creationism

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Prove it, don't quote what others have told you. Prove it.

Prove what? I think you are just grasping at anything you can to avoid confronting the facts. What I've given you are facts. They can be found corroborated by doing some reading. I'm not gonna do your homework for you. If you have reason to dispute the facts, then we can certainly debate them.

Other than that you're just being a disingenuous douchenozzle.

No what you have given are theories. Not facts.

Your ignorance is not an argument. It is a fact that in a spatio-temporally unbounded universe all probabilities approach 1. That's a mathematical fact. Likewise, it is a fact that in many-worlds cosmologies all probabilities are actual. It simply follows from the premises of the model. It isn't my fault you aren't well-informed enough. Go do some homework, that's how we all learned.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Can you prove that ?

Just note, lack of proof doesn't mean it is untrue.

And it doesn't mean it is true.

Theories are just that until proven.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
But if you want a good example of a hypothesis matching up almost exactly with reality, look at the COBE mission. Prediction: The Universe was once very small and very hot. If it was, we would observe a background blackbody emission spectrum of yadda-yadda-yadda.
COBE goes up, has a look around. The data it returns is very nearly a precise match, with a very tiny statistical error spread.

Science! It works, bitches!

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Can you prove that ?

Just note, lack of proof doesn't mean it is untrue.

And it doesn't mean it is true.

Theories are just that until proven.

Theories are accepted because they work and in fact most will never be proven true. They are accepted because they model the universe very very well from what we can observe.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Prove it, don't quote what others have told you. Prove it.

Prove what? I think you are just grasping at anything you can to avoid confronting the facts. What I've given you are facts. They can be found corroborated by doing some reading. I'm not gonna do your homework for you. If you have reason to dispute the facts, then we can certainly debate them.

Other than that you're just being a disingenuous douchenozzle.

No what you have given are theories. Not facts.

Your ignorance is not an argument. It is a fact that in a spatio-temporally unbounded universe all probabilities approach 1. That's a mathematical fact. Likewise, it is a fact that in many-worlds cosmologies all probabilities are actual. It simply follows from the premises of the model. It isn't my fault you aren't well-informed enough. Go do some homework, that's how we all learned.

Now you are trying to make it personal. Shame, was starting to enjoy this.
Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Can you prove that ?

Why do you try so hard to not understand?

edit: I mean, are you doubting the number of stars in the universe? (a lot) The percentage of stars that have planets? (most of them)

No the number of planets that all have the condition for life and have developed life from it.

So you're asking for perfect knowledge of the entire universe? Really? You got moxie kid, I like that.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

You've demonstrated that you do not know the difference between the two. Get a fucking education and then maybe you'll be worth my time.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

You've demonstrated that you do not know the difference between the two. Get a fucking education and then maybe you'll be worth my time.

So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

You've demonstrated that you do not know the difference between the two. Get a fucking education and then maybe you'll be worth my time.

So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

Do you doubt that my claims are factual? On what basis? Show me you actually know what you're talking about, not just being an obtuse dickforlips.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Yup. We have knowledge of 1 Solar system of 7(?) Planets. Not much of a basis to be drawing conclusive proof of Earth is the only suitable Planet in existance. There are probably beings on millions of other Planets making the same claims of exclusivity though.

Truthfully, we know about over 200. But we don't know anything about them except that they exist.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

He will probably question your ability to even read said paper, I'd only question your willingness. Like I said before, you're trying awfully hard to not accept the information that is being presented to you. You are intentionally misunderstanding the word theory and I don't understand why you keep asking the same questions over and over again only to refute the answers, for no discernible reason.

If you don't accept evolution and want to cling to creationism, why even bother in the debate? You're free to believe what you want.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

You've demonstrated that you do not know the difference between the two. Get a fucking education and then maybe you'll be worth my time.

So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

Do you doubt that my claims are factual? On what basis? Show me you actually know what you're talking about, not just being an obtuse dickforlips.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quan...pdf/0607/0607057v2.pdf

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

You've demonstrated that you do not know the difference between the two. Get a fucking education and then maybe you'll be worth my time.

So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

Do you doubt that my claims are factual? On what basis? Show me you actually know what you're talking about, not just being an obtuse dickforlips.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quan...pdf/0607/0607057v2.pdf

You appear to think that this refutes something I've said. Perhaps you can elaborate, becuase as I see it, it doesn't.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

You've demonstrated that you do not know the difference between the two. Get a fucking education and then maybe you'll be worth my time.

So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

Do you doubt that my claims are factual? On what basis? Show me you actually know what you're talking about, not just being an obtuse dickforlips.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quan...pdf/0607/0607057v2.pdf

You appear to think that this refutes something I've said. Perhaps you can elaborate, becuase as I see it, it doesn't.

They can be found corroborated by doing some reading. I'm not gonna do your homework for you.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Yup. We have knowledge of 1 Solar system of 7(?) Planets. Not much of a basis to be drawing conclusive proof of Earth is the only suitable Planet in existance. There are probably beings on millions of other Planets making the same claims of exclusivity though.

I'm pretty sure our solar system has 8 planets, even after removing Pluto: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Modelworks
So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

He will probably question your ability to even read said paper, I'd only question your willingness. Like I said before, you're trying awfully hard to not accept the information that is being presented to you. You are intentionally misunderstanding the word theory and I don't understand why you keep asking the same questions over and over again only to refute the answers, for no discernible reason.

If you don't accept evolution and want to cling to creationism, why even bother in the debate? You're free to believe what you want.

I don't accept either.
Both are only theories.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Now you are trying to make it personal.

Of course it's personal. YOU are your own problem.

Show me the paper where it is a shown and accepted fact, not a theory.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=many+worlds

Christ, you're fucking worthless...

Let me bold that part for you.

You've demonstrated that you do not know the difference between the two. Get a fucking education and then maybe you'll be worth my time.

So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

Do you doubt that my claims are factual? On what basis? Show me you actually know what you're talking about, not just being an obtuse dickforlips.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quan...pdf/0607/0607057v2.pdf

You appear to think that this refutes something I've said. Perhaps you can elaborate, becuase as I see it, it doesn't.

They can be found corroborated by doing some reading. I'm not gonna do your homework for you.

Yeah, ok. Enjoy your ignorance.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: sandorski
Yup. We have knowledge of 1 Solar system of 7(?) Planets. Not much of a basis to be drawing conclusive proof of Earth is the only suitable Planet in existance. There are probably beings on millions of other Planets making the same claims of exclusivity though.

I'm pretty sure our solar system has 8 planets, even after removing Pluto: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

oops, I skipped Earthlaugh when counting them in my head.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Modelworks
So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

He will probably question your ability to even read said paper, I'd only question your willingness. Like I said before, you're trying awfully hard to not accept the information that is being presented to you. You are intentionally misunderstanding the word theory and I don't understand why you keep asking the same questions over and over again only to refute the answers, for no discernible reason.

If you don't accept evolution and want to cling to creationism, why even bother in the debate? You're free to believe what you want.

I don't accept either.
Both are only theories.

Music is "only theory," too. I guess you don't "accept" music. :disgust:

Or, more likely, you're simply ignorant of what a theory actually is. You have to in order to think that creationism is actually a theory.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: sandorski
Yup. We have knowledge of 1 Solar system of 7(?) Planets. Not much of a basis to be drawing conclusive proof of Earth is the only suitable Planet in existance. There are probably beings on millions of other Planets making the same claims of exclusivity though.

Truthfully, we know about over 200. But we don't know anything about them except that they exist.

True. Was thinking about mentioning those too, but since we know nothing of them they don't matter much for now.

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Modelworks
So you can't provide a paper showing it fact ?

He will probably question your ability to even read said paper, I'd only question your willingness. Like I said before, you're trying awfully hard to not accept the information that is being presented to you. You are intentionally misunderstanding the word theory and I don't understand why you keep asking the same questions over and over again only to refute the answers, for no discernible reason.

If you don't accept evolution and want to cling to creationism, why even bother in the debate? You're free to believe what you want.

I don't accept either.
Both are only theories.

bet you don't accept gravity either. Alright.

 

[mxyzptlk]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

I don't accept either.
Both are only theories.

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Yeah, ok. Enjoy your ignorance.

I hear it's blissful.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk

Originally posted by: Modelworks

I don't accept either.
Both are only theories.

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Yeah, ok. Enjoy your ignorance.

I hear it's blissful.

Actually it is quite blissful.