Hypothetical Christianity Question

sao123

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Lets just say hypothetically christianity was absolutely proven the one true religion without a doubt. i want to know how you would react and how it would affect our world today....


Also, what would become of Science, Education, & Government... if it were proven true?


This is not for discussion of what is or is not... but what if. Please stay on topic without flaming.
 

SouthPaW1227

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Even if proven true, Seperation of Church & State would keep the rest in check.

BTW, I'm a Christian
 

huberm

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A little bit off topic, but here goes anyways:

There is a book out called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. He was an atheist searching for the truth, and found overwhelming evidence that Jesus is the Son of God. I highly recommend this book for anyone that thinks Jesus did not exist or is not God.

 

SouthPaW1227

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^^ "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis is another outstanding book for those who doubt God/Jesus.

The book simply points out the findings of an athiest and leaves the decisions from there up to you.
 

Miramonti

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Christianity, and other religions for that matter, aren't supported by finding truth, but rather finding faith.

If you find faith, then you have truth.

So no matter what science finds, if someone still has faith, then the truth won't change.

Can what science finds affect someone's faith? No. If so, it wouldn't have been true faith.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Christianity, and other religions for that matter, aren't supported by finding truth, but rather finding faith.

If you find faith, then you have truth.

So no matter what science finds, if someone still has faith, then the truth won't change.

Can what science finds affect someone's faith? No. If so, it wouldn't have been true faith.

I think you're confusing blind faith vs. true faith.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: jjsole
Christianity, and other religions for that matter, aren't supported by finding truth, but rather finding faith.

If you find faith, then you have truth.

So no matter what science finds, if someone still has faith, then the truth won't change.

Can what science finds affect someone's faith? No. If so, it wouldn't have been true faith.

I think you're confusing blind faith vs. true faith.

Sure, true faith can essentially be called blind faith, because once you have the truth, all that exists beyond that is less truth. No reason for less truth when you already have the truth. And if you don't already have the truth, then you don't have true faith.

 

Zysoclaplem

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Religion? Proven?
So it is proven that Jesus was the son of God and God does exist?
I would need more information.
 

thecrecarc

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im an athesit, only because in my pure opion, the odds of there being a god is astronomically high. and IF for some reason, there WAS a god, how do u kow its christian? or buddist? or maybe its ZEUS!!!

but, if it was somehow "magically" proved that god exists beyond ALL possible doubt, and proved that he/she is christian, i will be christian.

otherwise, i still think religion is bull
 

thecrecarc

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
im an athesit, only because in my pure opion, the odds of there being a god is astronomically high. and IF for some reason, there WAS a god, how do u kow its christian? or buddist? or maybe its ZEUS!!!

but, if it was somehow "magically" proved that god exists beyond ALL possible doubt, and proved that he/she is christian, i will be christian.

otherwise, i still think religion is bull

Spoken like a true Christian..."if god exists beyond ALL possible doubt", you'd be a "christian" [and not a muslim, buddhist, etc.], as if you're saying 'if there's a god, its definitely Jesus', indicating a faith in Jesus already. lol

uh.. no.

read. is there is a god, and it was PROVEN, AND it was PROVED he was CHRISITAN, id be christian

if it was PROVED there was a god, and it was PROVED the he was BUDDIST, id be buddist. its it was proved god has hindu, id be hindu. but only in absolute proof. otherwise, i think god is bull

i only used christian in my first post is cause that was what the OP asked.

 

drinkmorejava

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I'm sorry, but you're gong to have to pick a specific religion. I have hard time calling methodists christian.
 

thecrecarc

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
I bet if you changed it to Islam, the results wiould be very different

if he changed to islam, i would reply the same way.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: thecrecarc
Originally posted by: jjsole
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
im an athesit, only because in my pure opion, the odds of there being a god is astronomically high. and IF for some reason, there WAS a god, how do u kow its christian? or buddist? or maybe its ZEUS!!!

but, if it was somehow "magically" proved that god exists beyond ALL possible doubt, and proved that he/she is christian, i will be christian.

otherwise, i still think religion is bull

Spoken like a true Christian..."if god exists beyond ALL possible doubt", you'd be a "christian" [and not a muslim, buddhist, etc.], as if you're saying 'if there's a god, its definitely Jesus', indicating a faith in Jesus already. lol

uh.. no.

read. is there is a god, and it was PROVEN, AND it was PROVED he was CHRISITAN, id be christian

if it was PROVED there was a god, and it was PROVED the he was BUDDIST, id be buddist. its it was proved god has hindu, id be hindu. but only in absolute proof. otherwise, i think god is bull

i only used christian in my first post is cause that was what the OP asked.
My bad, I misread it. However if God was a christian, that would mean he would put his faith in Christ, meaning god has faith in another god. So who would you worship then?
 

Miramonti

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If its proven to EVERYONE as FACT that God exists and his name is _______, then OF COURSE everyone would accept God as God because they've already accepted that its proven he exists and he's God.

Otherwise its like saying to one's dad, "I know you're my biological father, but I'm not your son."
 

deepred98

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what do you mean that god was proven christian?

how can god believe in another greater being?
 

ch33zw1z

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Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
Even if proven true, Seperation of Church & State would keep the rest in check.

BTW, I'm a Christian

Seperation of church and state wasn't/isn't/will never be true in america. You can see religious influences in our gov't all the time.

I'm not saying that other countries have done this successfully....just making an observation.

 

sao123

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The thinking behind this question is... a lot of ATOT has the opinion...

Just being an authority does not make you necessarily right.


Example...
The government has created laws about certain issues. Some people disagree with those laws which are seen as too controlling in your personal life, and therefore dis-regard those laws.

How many people would take it a step farther.... People believe that the christian laws on sex, tithing, stem cell research and other issues are archaic. So, I was wondering, who despite logical proof, would disregard this, in favor of their own values.

What if christianity (or better yet, the question was about islam) and it called for more wars, terroristic acts and the like, like in the old testament. At what point do you choose your own chosen morality over that of a prescribed religion, or do we all redefine our own morality...because its God.

Its a deep question...
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: huberm
A little bit off topic, but here goes anyways:

There is a book out called "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. He was an atheist searching for the truth, and found overwhelming evidence that Jesus is the Son of God. I highly recommend this book for anyone that thinks Jesus did not exist or is not God.

:laugh:

I have no problem admitting that a guy named Jesus who was very charismatic and helped change the world (for better or worse is up for debate), who was a good guy but a bit off his rocker, once existed. The part about being the son of god though... rofl
 

jonessoda

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If it were proven absolutely true? I'd follow it. But as long as we're getting hypothetical, let's just say for a moment I had 90 trillion dollars and was ruler of the world, and you all were ruled under my harsh but fair iron fist.
 

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Tough call, especially since each religion claims to universally without a doubt true now. If it were definitely proven true, what would be the point? I follow no religion and choose to believe what I feel is right and would probably continue in the same fashion.

Would a religion continue be a religion, if faith is removed from the equation? It'd be like saying that from now on science will no longer need proof of theories and instead will work on the honor system.
 

kenji4life

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Originally posted by: ch33zw1z
Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
Even if proven true, Seperation of Church & State would keep the rest in check.

BTW, I'm a Christian

Seperation of church and state wasn't/isn't/will never be true in america. You can see religious influences in our gov't all the time.

I'm not saying that other countries have done this successfully....just making an observation.

Okay, I was really PO'd yesterday. There is this ONE church on walker road in beaverton between cedar hills and murray (oregon) and every single service, they have two police 'escorts' if you will stopping traffic so that they can pull their cars in/out, and stopping traffic so that they can cross the street. Now while I understand that this is not really a horrible or bad thing, I just think it's BS that one CHURCH, out of all other deserving places in the city for the police to be, gets this special treatment. I rolled my eyes and patiently waited, however I think that it's unfair. It's not like busy days at "insert place here" get a police escort (aside from big fairs etc) any ways hate to go too off topic so..

let me answer the op.

If it was proven Jesus real, really the son of god etc, I still would not be a Christian. I am shinto/buddhist/my own thing and nothing will ever change that. While I believe in what Christ tried to do in his teachings, I also believe that history has incredibly distorted the history of him. I believe Jesus to be a mere man whom was made into a god by man. (read: buddha)

I will never stop believing in my own beliefs, regardless of the presence of a single god. That doesn't prove to me that there aren't 1000 other gods just like him. I am already a sinner by the 'good book' because I worship other gods. (and a dozen other things)

By the way, I'd like to see how many out there are Christian but not by the "new testament". Now there is a good question. In my opinion the New Testament had great political underpinnings.
 
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