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MrPickins

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It's more complicated than you think. I swear I've had a billion analogies to sum up why people get this wrong so often. (I never seem to remember them all though) But one goes like this: What you're saying is like telling a starving man that he needs to cheer up because what's affecting him is depression. It isn't the starvation, but merely his brain. Here's another: It's like telling a man who is tortured every day that he should put a smile on his face and cheer up... because the world is really full of endless happiness. Why can't he just do that? Oh, it's probably depression. Go see a doctor, when you can get yourself out of those chains.

Most of you don't realize how depressing my life is to live. It doesn't mean that I have depression though. I'm just living a shitty life and I have been for many years. To deride what my life has and is as something that is just depression stems from a lack of understanding of my environment. Just because you can't fucking think of why someone would be LEGITIMATELY UNHAPPY is because you're too fucking narrow minded and have never had a really shitty life.

Fucking A. You're all worse than the god damn church people who try to convert gays to being straight. You're so fucking narrow minded.

From an outside perspective, it's obvious that things are the opposite of how you see them.

You think your life is shitty (and sabotage yourself to make it be so) because you are depressed. Go see a doctor.
 

TridenT

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lol, stop worrying about the 4.0, and more broadly, stop giving a shit what everyone else thinks

Stop caring what others think gets you fired. :thumbsdown: Bad advice. Speaking from experience.

10 words or less: no friends, family, money, or job. Loathe Seattle. No fix.
 

Brigandier

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Stop caring what others think gets you fired. :thumbsdown: Bad advice. Speaking from experience.

10 words or less: no friends, family, money, or job. Loathe Seattle. No fix.

You think too much, it is both your greatest strength and weakness.
 

VulgarDisplay

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Stop caring what others think gets you fired. :thumbsdown: Bad advice. Speaking from experience.

10 words or less: no friends, family, money, or job. Loathe Seattle. No fix.

This is only the case if you don't hold yourself to a higher standard than what everyone else does. If you don't have the drive to be the best you can be no matter what your endeavor than there truly is no hope for you. '

Once again, harden the fuck up. It's time for a little personal accountability. Forget everyone else. If you're not going to make a change for the better for yourself then there truly is no hope.

I don't have to worry about what other people think because I hold myself to a higher standard than any person judging me possibly could.
 

PowerEngineer

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Most of you don't realize how depressing my life is to live. It doesn't mean that I have depression though. I'm just living a shitty life and I have been for many years. To deride what my life has and is as something that is just depression stems from a lack of understanding of my environment. Just because you can't fucking think of why someone would be LEGITIMATELY UNHAPPY is because you're too fucking narrow minded and have never had a really shitty life.

I think I understand the point you are trying to make. It's not unreasonable to be unhappy if/when you have a good reason to be so, somthing akin to "I'm not paranoid if everyone really is out to get me". I get it; actually, I think most of ATOT gets that.

You have obviously read other threads in this forum that describe sad situations or events (e.g. deaths of friends or family), and know that the ATOT response is always supportive and sympathetic.

The difference with your threads is that the situations and events you describe don't seem to be as sad (or hopeless) as you make them out to be. The picture you've painted for us over the years of your life and its challenges is pretty much in line with what most people experience growing up. Many of us see your posts as overdramatic reactions to what should be minor "bumps in the road" of your life. We don't think these amount to a "legitimate" reason for you to be continually unhappy and/or depressed.

The gist of many responses boil down to telling you not to give up on solving these problems yourself (i.e. don't sell yourself short) and just commit yourself to doing it. That's good advice if you can follow it.

If you can't follow that advice, then perhaps you should be consulting a doctor. What seem like "mountains" to you (on the inside) seem like "mole hills" to the vast majority of ATOT (on the outside). This should at least raise the question in your mind about your perspective/reaction to life's challenges. It could be that you'd benefit from some professional help in reviewing your approach to life.

My two cents...
 

zerocool84

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I don't know why you guys try to help him. It's the same crap he does all the time. We've all tried to help him and he refuses it. He doesn't try to help himself. He thinks his small problems are huge problems. People go through cancer or death of a loved one but what he's going through is worse.
 

x-alki

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Why do people continue to give him advice? He doesnt listen or really want it. It's all about "whoa me and my shitty life". If he doesnt care about his life why should any of you?
 

bigrash

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It's more complicated than you think. I swear I've had a billion analogies to sum up why people get this wrong so often. (I never seem to remember them all though) But one goes like this: What you're saying is like telling a starving man that he needs to cheer up because what's affecting him is depression. It isn't the starvation, but merely his brain. Here's another: It's like telling a man who is tortured every day that he should put a smile on his face and cheer up... because the world is really full of endless happiness. Why can't he just do that? Oh, it's probably depression. Go see a doctor, when you can get yourself out of those chains.

Most of you don't realize how depressing my life is to live. It doesn't mean that I have depression though. I'm just living a shitty life and I have been for many years. To deride what my life has and is as something that is just depression stems from a lack of understanding of my environment. Just because you can't fucking think of why someone would be LEGITIMATELY UNHAPPY is because you're too fucking narrow minded and have never had a really shitty life.

Fucking A. You're all worse than the god damn church people who try to convert gays to being straight. You're so fucking narrow minded.

Are you having a hard time putting food on the table? Your parents or another close family member die recently? Do you have a sickness such as cancer, aids, or something serious (I'm not talking about depression)? Any other financial situation?

No? You see people go through much worse and they don't just sit there and cry about it. I'm sure the emotional stuff that you're going through is hard to you, but that's only because you make it that way.
 

deadlyapp

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Stop caring what others think gets you fired. :thumbsdown: Bad advice. Speaking from experience.

10 words or less: no friends, family, money, or job. Loathe Seattle. No fix.

Millions of people go through this, you clearly aren't trying hard enough or have some serious deficiencies if your life is ruined because of these things.

You don't have to care about what other people say to prevent yourself from being fired, you only have to do the job appropriately and take criticisms with stride to improve yourself. I don't think I've ever given a shit about what people think about me in a job, as long as I'm continuously improving and exceeding any expectations set by the job.

Regarding the rest:
-I have no friends in my current location, you make do and design hobbies around yourself, friends will come eventually.
-Closest family is 1000 miles away, I talk to them maybe once a month, doesn't affect my life
-All my disposable income goes directly into student loans/expenses from college, I have *literally* no spending money budgeted for 2013.
-I have a great job, but that is the easiest thing to change in your own life. Don't put yourself on a godamn pedestal though and think you're hot shit. I've worked at a quiznos, retail, lifeguarding, swim instruction. None of those illustrious jobs but you do what you have to. And don't try to say you don't have "experience" and can't get hired anywhere, thats merely an excuse.
-I see no possible way to loathe seattle. I think I loathe LA but its only because I haven't found the things in it that I love. Devote yourself to something to take your mind off it - for me it's been working out and running and now its so pleasing to me that I don't need anything else.

Too many words that will pass right through your eyes and out your ass, but maybe someone else is in a similar situation as you and can see the light.
 

SandEagle

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be happy you're in Seattle and not Iraq.

no friends, money, blah blah? you're 1000x better off than that kid lying in bed dying of cancer.

stop feeling sorry and go make something of yourself.
 

LumbergTech

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be happy you're in Seattle and not Iraq.

no friends, money, blah blah? you're 1000x better off than that kid lying in bed dying of cancer.

stop feeling sorry and go make something of yourself.

Hes struggling with personal connections and that is very important to people, so while his life isn't the worst or the most difficult, he doesn't know how to extract the goodness available to him. Clearly reaching out because he doesn't know how to do what you are asking him to do.
 

TridenT

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Again, you're caring about what others say. If you take criticism and do anything about it then you're worrying about what others say. Stop it.

And, loathing Seattle is very real: http://seattletimes.com/pacificnw/2005/0213/cover.html You haven't been in the same position as I have for the past two years. Stop comparing yourself to me as you clearly don't have any idea. Stop it.

"Jeez, these poor kids with no food are such complainers. All I have to do is go to the fridge to eat. How could it be hard?"
 

deadlyapp

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Again, you're caring about what others say. If you take criticism and do anything about it then you're worrying about what others say. Stop it.

And, loathing Seattle is very real: http://seattletimes.com/pacificnw/2005/0213/cover.html You haven't been in the same position as I have for the past two years. Stop comparing yourself to me as you clearly don't have any idea. Stop it.

"Jeez, these poor kids with no food are such complainers. All I have to do is go to the fridge to eat. How could it be hard?"

Are you fucking kidding me? I lived in washington for godamn 13 years, I know exactly what its like.

And taking criticism isn't worrying about what people say about you, its about better performing job duties. You're kowtowing to peoples opinions which is stupid. I don't give two shits if people in my office think i'm a suckup, or dumb, or naiive, or whatever other negative adjectives you can conjure up - as long as I do my job and do it as best I can. You clearly are not seeing the distinction.

Edit: read that article you posted. I don't understand how that is any different than any other city in the world. You don't go to a new city and magically people pop out of nowhere to be your friends. I've been in LA a year now. Guess how many friends I have? Zero. I have a roomate that I speak to maybe 10 minutes a week and I have coworkers that come to work, and go home. But I'm not crying and boohooing about my life.
 
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TridenT

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Are you fucking kidding me? I lived in washington for godamn 13 years, I know exactly what its like.

And taking criticism isn't worrying about what people say about you, its about better performing job duties. You're kowtowing to peoples opinions which is stupid. I don't give two shits if people in my office think i'm a suckup, or dumb, or naiive, or whatever other negative adjectives you can conjure up - as long as I do my job and do it as best I can. You clearly are not seeing the distinction.

Edit: read that article you posted. I don't understand how that is any different than any other city in the world. You don't go to a new city and magically people pop out of nowhere to be your friends. I've been in LA a year now. Guess how many friends I have? Zero. I have a roomate that I speak to maybe 10 minutes a week and I have coworkers that come to work, and go home. But I'm not crying and boohooing about my life.

Washington != Seattle.

You're trying to play semantics. Say something that is accurate rather than trying to redefine words.

It's different. I'm guessing you never lived in Seattle. I've gone to other cities and they're much more friendly. I get invited to things and actually get to do shit with people rather than a superficial 'we should do something sometime, in a life where you don't exist'. People in other cities are actually willing to socialize at social gatherings with people they don't know very well.
 

WelshBloke

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Why do people continue to give him advice? He doesnt listen or really want it. It's all about "whoa me and my shitty life". If he doesnt care about his life why should any of you?

Bingo!

He's just one of those people that likes the stink of their own misery.
 

nCred

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I kind of understand Trident. People adapt, when you're not dying of cancer or starving, smaller issues becomes more important and those may affect you a lot even if they don't seem to be a big deal to others. I'm unhappy because I'm lonely and have nothing to look forward to I guess. I tried an antidepressant for a couple of months but it didn't do anything whatsoever for me. People talk about changing yourself but you can't change your brain, and I think that would be necessary in my case.
 

mikegg

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Sounds like OP just needs a motivation/goal. I don't have a lot of friends. I have a GF that is 60 miles away from me. I just go to work then come home.

I now create websites and try to grow them to keep me motivated and work towards a goal. I'm also motivated at work because my parents worked their ass off to support me so I want to be able to give them a good retired life.

OP, try to find something that you like doing and create something from it. Like dancing? Create a dancing blog. Talk about dancing on your blog. Promote it. Write it.

You don't have to try to get a 4.0 GPA. I had a 2.3 GPA in college and now I make more money than all of my college friends.

You just need stuff to do that matters to you.
 

randomrogue

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You need to get off the computer, see a professional and probably get on some meds, and get a new hobby or two.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy with you since you aren't changing anything. Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Stop that.

Seattle is a great city. Learn to drink coffee! It's got tons of nature so find a group that does hiking. Maybe you've always wanted to play guitar. Take lessons. Do anything other than what you're doing since it's clearly not working. Start with the basics though and see a professional. You need to get your body chemistry adjusted.
 

edro

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He needs self confidence.
He needs to start exercising and doing activities in the real world instead of the computer.

Until he tries, he is just an attention whore.
 
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