"I hate gay people"

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
That's perfectly fine with me.
He hates gay people.
Still sounds pretty silly for a man who plays with balls all day.
But I guess he doesn't get paid to think.

*crickets chirping .... crickets chirping*

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Still sounds pretty silly for a man who plays with balls all day.

:laugh: ROFL!!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Tuktuk
So what?

I agree. He can be whoever he wants to be.

So, if I say I hate Blacks, Asians or filthy stinking Mexicans it's okay because I'm just being who I want to be?

Since when is it okay to promote hatred and intolerance of a certain group of people in our society?

If you hate something, then stand up and say it.
Personally I don't really hate any particular group of people.
But I do hate Kias. They are just not very good cars in my opinion.
The fact is, if you are anything, and want to admit it openly, you have to be ready to have people high and low disagree with your view. To take a stand against your stand.

I am much more interested in why he hates homosexuals.
I've always felt that if you can come to a conclusion than your reasons must be clear.
And it's the funniest thing when people try to explain why they hate homosexuals, because it's never what the people "think", it's what they were "taught."

I don't either. I was just making a point.

The difference between our ball dribbling friend and most other people is that he's been given a microphone and can influence millions of people with his opinion.

Oh, and I hate Kias too.

 

[krunchykrome]

He can say whatever he wants and none of us can do anything about it. He breathes the same air we do so why should his opinion matter?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The difference between our ball dribbling friend and most other people is that he's been given a microphone and can influence millions of people with his opinion.

It's not his fault that people are stupid.

- M4H

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: NuAlphaMan
Poor choice of words, but at least he was honest

What in the hell is the correct choice of words in this situation? Should he have covered his ass by hiding under the fascia of religion, declaring that gays are evil according to the scripture of god? If he was a white man, saying that he hated blacks, would you still herald his honesty, as if it was something to be respected?

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Tuktuk
So what?

I agree. He can be whoever he wants to be.

So, if I say I hate Blacks, Asians or filthy stinking Mexicans it's okay because I'm just being who I want to be?

Since when is it okay to promote hatred and intolerance of a certain group of people in our society?

If you hate something, then stand up and say it.
Personally I don't really hate any particular group of people.
But I do hate Kias. They are just not very good cars in my opinion.
The fact is, if you are anything, and want to admit it openly, you have to be ready to have people high and low disagree with your view. To take a stand against your stand.

I am much more interested in why he hates homosexuals.
I've always felt that if you can come to a conclusion than your reasons must be clear.
And it's the funniest thing when people try to explain why they hate homosexuals, because it's never what the people "think", it's what they were "taught."

I don't either. I was just making a point.

The difference between our ball dribbling friend and most other people is that he's been given a microphone and can influence millions of people with his opinion.

Oh, and I hate Kias too.

He plays Basketball. People will listen when he talks about Basketball. No one is going to tune into the Tim Hardaway show to listen to him discuss the issues of today...lol.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: NuAlphaMan
Poor choice of words, but at least he was honest

What in the hell is the correct choice of words in this situation? Should he have covered his ass by hiding under the fascia of religion, declaring that gays are evil according to the scripture of god? If he was a white man, saying that he hated blacks, would you still herald his honesty, as if it was something to be respected?

Honest vs Dishonest != Right vs Wrong

- M4H

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

He plays Basketball. People will listen when he talks about Basketball. No one is going to tune into the Tim Hardaway show to listen to him discuss the issues of today...lol.

Coming soon to cable news - The Tim Hardaway Roundtable Hour

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: K1052
Gays in the various professional sports has always been a taboo topic but there seems to be indications, from what I've read, that are a sizable number of them.

Well, I know all hockey players are gay. They have to be. Have you seen the pants they wear?

 

[krunchykrome]

It's funny though that he suddenly has the balls to make a statement like this after he retires.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The difference between our ball dribbling friend and most other people is that he's been given a microphone and can influence millions of people with his opinion.

It's not his fault that people are stupid.

- M4H

:laugh: That fact should, at the very least, remind him to keep his mouth shut.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: NuAlphaMan
Poor choice of words, but at least he was honest

What in the hell is the correct choice of words in this situation? Should he have covered his ass by hiding under the fascia of religion, declaring that gays are evil according to the scripture of god? If he was a white man, saying that he hated blacks, would you still herald his honesty, as if it was something to be respected?

Honest vs Dishonest != Right vs Wrong

- M4H

I never said they were, but I'd rather someone be dishonest, at least it hints to some inkling of a conscious and a general basis of what is truly right and wrong. I have no respect for the idiot who wears his honesty on his shoulder. His honesty deserves no recognition.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
That's perfectly fine with me.
He hates gay people.
Still sounds pretty silly for a man who plays with balls all day.
But I guess he doesn't get paid to think.

*crickets chirping .... crickets chirping*

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Still sounds pretty silly for a man who plays with balls all day.

:laugh: ROFL!!

lol damn i got pwned with the quickness too.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: K1052
Gays in the various professional sports has always been a taboo topic but there seems to be indications, from what I've read, that are a sizable number of them.

Well, I know all hockey players are gay. They have to be. Have you seen the pants they wear?

Not as gay as football players

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[CraigRT]

Never heard of 'em

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Ryan
I never said they were, but I'd rather someone be dishonest, at least it hints to some inkling of a conscious and a general basis of what is truly right and wrong. I have no respect for the idiot who wears his honesty on his shoulder. His honesty deserves no recognition.

Ah, but what if he truly loves gay people/is gay/etc and is being dishonest about hating them?

- M4H

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Tuktuk
So what?

I agree. He can be whoever he wants to be.

So, if I say I hate Blacks, Asians or filthy stinking Mexicans it's okay because I'm just being who I want to be?

Since when is it okay to promote hatred and intolerance of a certain group of people in our society?

If you hate something, then stand up and say it.
Personally I don't really hate any particular group of people.
But I do hate Kias. They are just not very good cars in my opinion.
The fact is, if you are anything, and want to admit it openly, you have to be ready to have people high and low disagree with your view. To take a stand against your stand.

I am much more interested in why he hates homosexuals.
I've always felt that if you can come to a conclusion than your reasons must be clear.
And it's the funniest thing when people try to explain why they hate homosexuals, because it's never what the people "think", it's what they were "taught."

I don't either. I was just making a point.

The difference between our ball dribbling friend and most other people is that he's been given a microphone and can influence millions of people with his opinion.

Oh, and I hate Kias too.

He plays Basketball. People will listen when he talks about Basketball. No one is going to tune into the Tim Hardaway show to listen to him discuss the issues of today...lol.

I wouldn't be so sure of that...How many former athletes or actors have made the transition to politics or as spokesperson for some cause?

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Ryan
I never said they were, but I'd rather someone be dishonest, at least it hints to some inkling of a conscious and a general basis of what is truly right and wrong. I have no respect for the idiot who wears his honesty on his shoulder. His honesty deserves no recognition.

Ah, but what if he truly loves gay people/is gay/etc and is being dishonest about hating them?

- M4H

Haha - I'd file that under misguided soul when it happens

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: Tuktuk
So what?

I agree. He can be whoever he wants to be.

So, if I say I hate Blacks, Asians or filthy stinking Mexicans it's okay because I'm just being who I want to be?

Since when is it okay to promote hatred and intolerance of a certain group of people in our society?

If you hate something, then stand up and say it.
Personally I don't really hate any particular group of people.
But I do hate Kias. They are just not very good cars in my opinion.
The fact is, if you are anything, and want to admit it openly, you have to be ready to have people high and low disagree with your view. To take a stand against your stand.

I am much more interested in why he hates homosexuals.
I've always felt that if you can come to a conclusion than your reasons must be clear.
And it's the funniest thing when people try to explain why they hate homosexuals, because it's never what the people "think", it's what they were "taught."

I don't either. I was just making a point.

The difference between our ball dribbling friend and most other people is that he's been given a microphone and can influence millions of people with his opinion.

Oh, and I hate Kias too.

He plays Basketball. People will listen when he talks about Basketball. No one is going to tune into the Tim Hardaway show to listen to him discuss the issues of today...lol.

I wouldn't be so sure of that...How many former athletes or actors have made the transition to politics or as spokesperson for some cause?

I'll never forget when I saw Charles Barkley on CNN telling some professor that he didn't care about history (I just wish I could remember the discussion).

 

[ScottFern]

George Bush doesn't care about black people...............and now Tim Hardaway hates gay people! What's this world coming too!!

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: NuAlphaMan
Poor choice of words, but at least he was honest

What in the hell is the correct choice of words in this situation? Should he have covered his ass by hiding under the fascia of religion, declaring that gays are evil according to the scripture of god? If he was a white man, saying that he hated blacks, would you still herald his honesty, as if it was something to be respected?

Honest vs Dishonest != Right vs Wrong

- M4H

I never said they were, but I'd rather someone be dishonest, at least it hints to some inkling of a conscious and a general basis of what is truly right and wrong. I have no respect for the idiot who wears his honesty on his shoulder. His honesty deserves no recognition.

You take the exact opposite position of my black friends. Pretty much across the board they all say they prefer living in the South...at least the racists & bigots in the South don't try to hide it compared to the North where everyone pays lip service to equality and fairness. Yes, I know this is a small sample size and anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all...I just find the radically different opinions of two different minority groups about the same topic of honesty in bigotry interesting.

 

[Carbo]

Originally posted by: Ryan:
If he was a white man, saying that he hated blacks, would you still herald his honesty, as if it was something to be respected?

You asked this question already. The answer, again, is yes.

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Ryan:
If he was a white man, saying that he hated blacks, would you still herald his honesty, as if it was something to be respected?

You asked this question already. The answer, again, is yes.

So you respect him and herald his honesty because it parallels your own thinking......right, got it.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: Ryan:
If he was a white man, saying that he hated blacks, would you still herald his honesty, as if it was something to be respected?

You asked this question already. The answer, again, is yes.

So you respect him and herald his honesty because is parallels your own thinking......right, got it.

Cat fight!

 

[DigDug]

Come on, Carbo. In an attempt to appear consistent, you only prove the absurdity of your stance. The reality is not that you are standing up for free speech, but rather free derision of those you've admitted you percieve as deviant. Should we then interpret your recent approval of hate speech against blacks as a testament of your similar perception of them?

Pretty much across the board they all say they prefer living in the South...at least the racists & bigots in the South don't try to hide it compared to the North where everyone pays lip service to equality and fairness

How many of them have lived in the North? Could this simply be cognitive dissonance?