"I hate gay people"

[Syringer]

This thread is now worthless.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: AMDZen
If I had to live in the Bay Area I'd hate gay people too.

Of course I'd never live in SanFran simply because of that

FYI: San Francisco does not hold the entire world's gay population.

No but for anyone outside of San Fran, ask them the first thing that pops into their head about the city. It will usually be Riceroni or Gay people.

Personally for me it's the Golden Gate bridge, Dirty Harry, or socialists.

But more to the point, why wouldn't you live someplace even if it was perceived to have a large number of gay residents and you are straight (presumably)? Only morons think the whole city is gay.

Sorry but IMO at least, San Fran is a trashy city and I'd never live there. It may or may not be solely because of gay people, its actually because of a lot of things. I just wouldn't want to live in a city, that I believe any way, is most well known for being the capital of gay'dom. Right or wrong. Frankly I remember reading something about it having the Highest percentage of gay men, gay clubs, AIDS or maybe just STDs per capita (per male capita) in the entire united states. It might even be all of those, I know I didn't come up with it on my own. I'll seek out some of these stats if i have a min and post them, I can't remember which stat it was.

And it should be added that when I say "gay" i'm only referring to men. Lesbians don't bother me for some reason. Although I wouldn't have wanted to live in the modern day equivelant of the roman's lesbos island either, simply because I'd never get laid. And trust me, know I'm a bit homophobic you don't have to tell me. And it doesn't both me, I'm not sure why it bothers you.

What's ironic is that Tim Hardaway played for the Golden State Warriors in Oakland for years, and I assume lived in the bay area, or even in San Francisco.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
He can say whatever he wants and none of us can do anything about it. He breathes the same air we do so why should his opinion matter?

of course he can say what he wants, that is the beauty of free speech. but people who oppose bigotry also have the right to say his views are harmful and stupid.

this guy is so dumb, he didn't realize the firestorm his ignorant comments would ignite. therefore you can't even say he is brave for voicing an unpopular opinion.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: K1052

I don't doubt the stats, but I wondered why a straight guy would be concerned about it or the perception enough to refuse to live there. If anything I'd think the women hunting would be easier because of it.

That is exactly the way I look at it. More gay men per capita = less competition for straight women for me. It's a no lose situation. The only thing I don't understand about gay men is the not liking women part. I am not bothered by their liking men. I just can't wrap my mind around the not liking women part.

Bend over in front of a mirror, that what gay dudes like... yummy eh? :disgust:

1. Some straight guys like that too. They just like it to be less hairy.
2. The vagina is not all that attractive...

Tell us more. You seem to have some hidden urges regarding your sexuality.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
He can say whatever he wants and none of us can do anything about it. He breathes the same air we do so why should his opinion matter?

of course he can say what he wants, that is the beauty of free speech. but people who oppose bigotry also have the right to say his views are harmful and stupid.

this guy is so dumb, he didn't realize the firestorm his ignorant comments would ignite. therefore you can't even say he is brave for voicing an unpopular opinion.

The unpopular opinion is that we should all accept gays.

 

[marincounty]

The response of the NBA to Tim Hardaway's statement is interesting.

The NBA today removed Tim Hardaway from its All-Star weekend activities, a day after he said, ''I hate gay people'' in a radio interview with a Miami Herald sports columnist.

The NBA canceled all of Hardaway's assignments this weekend, including an appearance as an ''NBA legend'' at the YMCA of Southern Nevada and participation in the NBA's community caravan leading up to Sunday's All-Star game in Las Vegas.

''It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours,'' NBA Commissioner David Stern said in a statement issued by the league.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16706242.htm

As opposed to how the NFL's Reggie White was treated after words and actions much more controversial than that of Hardaway.

White's retirement was not without controversy. He created a stir in March of 1998 with his comments before the Wisconsin state legislature that invoked positive racial stereotypes of Latinos, Asians, whites, blacks, and Native Americans, explaining that all were made in God's image. Consistent with his fundamentalist understanding of Biblical doctrine and his religious beliefs, he made remarks about gays and lesbians, and subsequently became an ally of organizations opposed to homosexuality, appearing in a newspaper advertising campaign to convince gays and lesbians that they could "cease" their homosexuality. Homosexual-rights organizations opposed his remarks but defended his right to speak out.[citation needed] In addition, both the Green Bay Packers and the NFL objected to the ads, since White had appeared in his football uniform without the consent of the team or the league. Later versions of the ad removed the uniform.

During the 2005 season, three teams retired White's number 92 jersey. During a halftime presentation at Lambeau Field on September 18, 2005, White became only the fifth Green Bay Packer to have his number retired by the franchise. The Packers also wore a helmet decal honoring White for the remaining games in the season. The University of Tennessee retired White's jersey at a halftime presentation on October 1, 2005 during their game against the University of Mississippi, the third such retirement in the modern era of football at the school; a commemorative sign was also unveiled in the south end of Neyland Stadium. Finally, on December 5, 2005, the Philadelphia Eagles retired his jersey in a halftime ceremony during the Eagles' Monday Night Football game with the Seattle Seahawks, who were coached by Mike Holmgren, White's former coach in Green Bay. He is the only player in NFL history to have his number retired by two different NFL teamsWhite was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame on February 4, 2006. He was enshrined at a ceremony on August 5, 2006 in Canton, Ohio. White's widow, Sara White, delivered her late husband's acceptance speech at the ceremony. She was introduced by their son, Jeremy White, who also released the first copies of his autobiography, In His Shadow: Growing Up With Reggie White, during the Hall of Fame weekend in honor of his father. Jeremy thanked the "God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob" in his introduction, echoing Reggie White's dedication to his faith. White is the first "Messianic" believer inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame [citation needed].

In 1999, he was ranked number 22 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players, making him the highest-ranked player to have played for the Eagles and the third-ranking Packer behind Don Hutson and Ray Nitschke.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: K1052

I don't doubt the stats, but I wondered why a straight guy would be concerned about it or the perception enough to refuse to live there. If anything I'd think the women hunting would be easier because of it.

That is exactly the way I look at it. More gay men per capita = less competition for straight women for me. It's a no lose situation. The only thing I don't understand about gay men is the not liking women part. I am not bothered by their liking men. I just can't wrap my mind around the not liking women part.

Bend over in front of a mirror, that what gay dudes like... yummy eh? :disgust:

1. Some straight guys like that too. They just like it to be less hairy.
2. The vagina is not all that attractive...

Tell us more. You seem to have some hidden urges regarding your sexuality.

Yeah man, you got me. :roll:

You think straight people don't have anal sex? You're wrong.

Have you ever heard a guy talk about how good a girl's vagina looks? Ass, legs, breasts, face, these things guys find attractive in a woman. Vagina? Eh... not so much.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: marincounty

As opposed to how the NFL's Reggie White was treated after words and actions much more controversial than that of Hardaway...

The difference is that White had a religious pitch to it, not to mention he is a member of NFL which emphasizes masculinity and macho.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: mugs

Have you ever heard a guy talk about how good a girl's vagina looks? Ass, legs, breasts, face, these things guys find attractive in a woman. Vagina? Eh... not so much.

:laugh:

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: DigDug
Its always funny to see a black homophobe. You'd think the a$$ would realize the parallel.

it's even funnier to see people try to compare the plight of blacks to that of gays

why is it funny? there are plenty of parallels between society's historical treatment of black people and society's treatment of gay people. Lack of access to marriage is just one similarity. Obviously there are differences as well.

well, there's plenty of parallels between the lifestyles of gays and langur monkeys, but as you say, there are also many differences. i wouldn't throw them together into the same catagory.... (that is unless i was trying to trump up some lame "gay gene" argument.....LMFAO@ME)

analogies are useful because they illuminate a point or reveal some truth. I think a comparison of society's treatment of black people and gay people can be very telling.

people who bristle at the comparison are often bigots who don't want to be called on their bigotry.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: marincounty
The response of the NBA to Tim Hardaway's statement is interesting.

The NBA today removed Tim Hardaway from its All-Star weekend activities, a day after he said, ''I hate gay people'' in a radio interview with a Miami Herald sports columnist.

The NBA canceled all of Hardaway's assignments this weekend, including an appearance as an ''NBA legend'' at the YMCA of Southern Nevada and participation in the NBA's community caravan leading up to Sunday's All-Star game in Las Vegas.

''It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours,'' NBA Commissioner David Stern said in a statement issued by the league.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16706242.htm

As opposed to how the NFL's Reggie White was treated after words and actions much more controversial than that of Hardaway.

You're comparing the NBA's immediate reaction to the NFL's actions with regard to a player who made controversial statements nearly 10 years ago? Give the NBA 10 years to forget about this and see if Hardaway is blacklisted.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: K1052

I don't doubt the stats, but I wondered why a straight guy would be concerned about it or the perception enough to refuse to live there. If anything I'd think the women hunting would be easier because of it.

That is exactly the way I look at it. More gay men per capita = less competition for straight women for me. It's a no lose situation. The only thing I don't understand about gay men is the not liking women part. I am not bothered by their liking men. I just can't wrap my mind around the not liking women part.

Bend over in front of a mirror, that what gay dudes like... yummy eh? :disgust:

1. Some straight guys like that too. They just like it to be less hairy.
2. The vagina is not all that attractive...

Tell us more. You seem to have some hidden urges regarding your sexuality.

Yeah man, you got me. :roll:

You think straight people don't have anal sex? You're wrong.

Have you ever heard a guy talk about how good a girl's vagina looks? Ass, legs, breasts, face, these things guys find attractive in a woman. Vagina? Eh... not so much.

My point was in reference to a mans ass. Your whole argument means nothing.

And I am joking around anyway.

(and yes I have heard rather descriptive stories about poonanay and how good it looked)

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Ryan

Originally posted by: slurmsmackenzie

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: DigDug
Its always funny to see a black homophobe. You'd think the a$$ would realize the parallel.

it's even funnier to see people try to compare the plight of blacks to that of gays

why is it funny? there are plenty of parallels between society's historical treatment of black people and society's treatment of gay people. Lack of access to marriage is just one similarity. Obviously there are differences as well.

well, there's plenty of parallels between the lifestyles of gays and langur monkeys, but as you say, there are also many differences. i wouldn't throw them together into the same catagory.... (that is unless i was trying to trump up some lame "gay gene" argument.....LMFAO@ME)

What are the huge differences, if you don't mind to elaborate.

You can be gay and if you choose to keep it to yourself no one will ever know. That is a pretty huge difference.

sure, there are plenty of differences, no analogy is perfect. also, the point of using the analogy is not to say the oppression faced by gay people is identical to the oppression once faced by or still faced by blacks.

there are the similarities. you can be denied access to jobs, education, housing due to a biological trait (sexual orientation, skin color) that you did not choose and which isn't harmful to anyone else, anyway. you can be lynched or bashed due to that biological trait. you will be (or were) denied access to important social institutions (marriage) or will not receive fair treatment before the law.

I can't respect people who oppose racism, but think treating gay people as second class citizens is just fine.

 

[glutenberg]

Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing homosexuality?

Edited:
For Oceandevi's convenience.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: marincounty
The response of the NBA to Tim Hardaway's statement is interesting.

The NBA today removed Tim Hardaway from its All-Star weekend activities, a day after he said, ''I hate gay people'' in a radio interview with a Miami Herald sports columnist.

The NBA canceled all of Hardaway's assignments this weekend, including an appearance as an ''NBA legend'' at the YMCA of Southern Nevada and participation in the NBA's community caravan leading up to Sunday's All-Star game in Las Vegas.

''It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours,'' NBA Commissioner David Stern said in a statement issued by the league.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/16706242.htm

As opposed to how the NFL's Reggie White was treated after words and actions much more controversial than that of Hardaway.

You're comparing the NBA's immediate reaction to the NFL's actions with regard to a player who made controversial statements nearly 10 years ago? Give the NBA 10 years to forget about this and see if Hardaway is blacklisted.

Not to mention that Reggie never said he hated anyone.
At least not that I can recall.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why accept oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

Edited:
For Chryso's sake.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why allow oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

Your use of the word "allow" confuses and frightens me.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why allow oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

A healthy hetero couple can choose to have children under most conditions.
A gay couple cannot. A gay couple is a dead end unless they enlist the opposite sex.

I realize we as a species do not suffer from a population shortage... far from it. Regardless I cannot view homosexuality as a normal or healthy alternative.


Children are our future. If we stopped breeding we would die as a species. A culture who looks down on "breeders" is a culture I will never accept.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why allow oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

Your use of the word "allow" confuses and frightens me.

He is part of the gay army. Do not look him in the eyes.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why allow oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

Your use of the word "allow" confuses and frightens me.

He is part of the gay army. Do not look him in the eyes.

The numbers are growing!

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why allow oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

Your use of the word "allow" confuses and frightens me.

He is part of the gay army. Do not look him in the eyes.

The numbers are growing!

I am Legion: for we are many

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
He's probably deep in the closet.

Not that deep, apparently. Pretty obvious to me, at least.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why allow oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

A healthy hetero couple can choose to have children under most conditions.
A gay couple cannot. A gay couple is a dead end unless they enlist the opposite sex.

I realize we as a species do not suffer from a population shortage... far from it. Regardless I cannot view homosexuality as a normal or healthy alternative.


Children are our future. If we stopped breeding we would die as a species. A culture who looks down on "breeders" is a culture I will never accept.

Would you then restrict marriage to a couple (hetero) with a woman that has had a hysterectomy? How about a man who is unable to produce sperm?

It's not like homosexuality is an epidemic and it's doubtful that it's nurtured into people which just means that it has probably been around as long as man has been around. Also, no culture looks down on "breeders" but we as a culture look down on many other classifications that don't fit the "norm" established by society. Why is that?

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Out of curiousity, outside of religious reasons, what are people's reasoning for opposing gays?

Really I don't hate homo's, I just think its weird and biologically foolish.

Why allow oral sex then? It has no purpose other than for sex sake.

A healthy hetero couple can choose to have children under most conditions.
A gay couple cannot. A gay couple is a dead end unless they enlist the opposite sex.

I realize we as a species do not suffer from a population shortage... far from it. Regardless I cannot view homosexuality as a normal or healthy alternative.


Children are our future. If we stopped breeding we would die as a species. A culture who looks down on "breeders" is a culture I will never accept.

Would you then restrict marriage to a couple (hetero) with a woman that has had a hysterectomy? How about a man who is unable to produce sperm?

It's not like homosexuality is an epidemic and it's doubtful that it's nurtured into people which just means that it has probably been around as long as man has been around. Also, no culture looks down on "breeders" but we as a culture look down on many other classifications that don't fit the "norm" established by society. Why is that?

Read the post man I already made this point.

A healthy hetero couple can choose to have children under most conditions.

I know that its not an epidemic. I just think that gays should be grateful to us breeders for making them in the first place.

About your second part. Might explain some of it