I just ordered a 5870...

[mwdavis77]

And now I'm reading about all of these problems with GSOD. Should I be concerned, does anyone know the failure rate in terms of percentage of cards shipped?

Is this really common or is it 1/100?

Thanks

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Well you need to understand that for every person complaining about a problem there are hundreds or thousands who are not. 99% of the people with no problems won't be posting in the forums to tell you they aren't having problem where 50% of those with problems would.

Anyways the issue is supposed to pretty much have been completely eliminated. If you have any problems it should be covered by your warranty and you will get a replacement card.

The only people with good statistics on this would be AMD and their vendor partners so it's hard to say for sure but it has to be in the low percentage points or you would literally see dozens of people complaining about it in this forum every day.

 

[Tempered81]

And now I'm reading about all of these problems with GSOD. Should I be concerned, does anyone know the failure rate in terms of percentage of cards shipped?

Is this really common or is it 1/100?

Thanks

It's about 15/100. but like darkangel said, it's been being fixed by driver releases as time goes by, now very few people still have that problem.

 

[zerocool84]

My 5870 works perfect. Haven't had one problem with it in any games.

 

[bossqueen]

As I read on the internet, this problem has been solved. If you meet this problem, only I can say is that you have bad luck XD. And I agree what darkangel said. Just enjoy ur new card!!!

 

[mwdavis77]

Thanks for all the replies, I'm really looking forward to the upgrade but I had bad luck with an ATI card in the past so I was just a little concerned.

Newegg already shipped so it should be here in a couple days, I'm crossing my fingers.

 

[A554SS1N]

I'm intending to get a 5850 (or 5770) and have been slightly put off by the GSOD issues myself, but there doesn't seem to be all that many peope complaining, so I'll probably still get a 5850/5770 anyway. NVidia just doesn't have any viable alternative right now.

Enjoy your new card!

 

[SunnyD]

No GSOD here in the last 2 weeks that I've owned a USED near-launch 5870.

 

[venusiansky]

OP, you are scaring me here. I just ordered a 5870 and this will be my first ATi card.

 

[MrK6]

I had a 5870 since launch and never had a single random GSOD (only ones I had were from trying to push the card way past 1GHz on the core, i.e. user-caused). I now have 5850 CF and still have yet to encounter a GSOD on them.

 

[Hardlin]

I've had a 5870 for 3 months now and not experienced any issues.

 

[solofly]

No GSOD here in

I've never seen one of those besides the internet...

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Stop worrying about it, grab you card plug it in and have fun. As far as I can tell 99% of people around here don't have any significant problems with evergreen cards. I think the biggest complaint around here is the fact that you can't voltage adjust non reference design cards and the overclocking limits in CCC, hardly and ''real'' problems with the cards.

 

[solofly]

Stop worrying about it, grab you card plug it in and have fun. As far as I can tell 99% of people around here don't have any significant problems with evergreen cards. I think the biggest complaint around here is the fact that you can't voltage adjust non reference design cards and the overclocking limits in CCC, hardly and ''real'' problems with the cards.

And most cases the video card will limit you and not the CCC...(unless you overvolt, which I personally would never do)

 

[Imp]

Never had GSOD in game, but have had it quite often on the desktop. After turning off Aero desktop, it's gone from one crash every other day (non-recoverable) to one crash per week (recoverable).

Catalyst 10.2 didn't fix it for me, but I haven't tried 10.3 yet. If you got an XFX card like I did, you have nothing to worry about.

 

[MrK6]

And most cases the video card will limit you and not the CCC...(unless you overvolt, which I personally would never do)

Nah, most 5870's should do 900MHz on the core with stock voltage easily. For the vRAM I agree though.

Never had GSOD in game, but have had it quite often on the desktop. After turning off Aero desktop, it's gone from one crash every other day (non-recoverable) to one crash per week (recoverable).

Catalyst 10.2 didn't fix it for me, but I haven't tried 10.3 yet. If you got an XFX card like I did, you have nothing to worry about.

Have you tried flashing to your latest motherboard BIOS?

 

[Kenmitch]

I've never seen the GSOD....I've read about others who have but that's it.

Just download the latest drivers and run with them from the getgo and you should have no problems at all

Now I have managed to get the CCC has stopped responding during my overclocking adventures which it most of the time does recover. I have managed to get full system lockup with no recovery with a black screen of no response or recovery I'll call it. Hard restart fixed it tho. I have managed to kill my drivers and semi kill win7 when playing around with bios flashing. Going from one bios to another and changing clocks CCC slider max's, card ID etc. Didn't play with voltage anymore than bumped to what shows in my sig....So I guess any problems I've had have been self induced by me and not by the card or by ATI's drivers.

 

[apoppin]

Stop worrying about it, grab you card plug it in and have fun. As far as I can tell 99% of people around here don't have any significant problems with evergreen cards. I think the biggest complaint around here is the fact that you can't voltage adjust non reference design cards and the overclocking limits in CCC, hardly and ''real'' problems with the cards.

What is SO weird is that many review sites agree with you

HOWEVER, my NON-reference PowerColor HD 5870 PCS+ has a "hidden" one.
- it is running stably at 975/1300 at 1.325 V with decent thermals

i like the non-reference size - shorter and a bit wider
-- i had to butcher my case to fit my Diamond reference HD 5870.

 

[crazylegs]

Enjoy your new card, like others have said any GSOD issues seem to have been mostly fixed with patches, so dont think u'll have any trouble

 

[Dark4ng3l]

What is SO weird is that many review sites agree with you

HOWEVER, my NON-reference PowerColor HD 5870 PCS+ has a "hidden" one.
- it is running stably at 975/1300 at 1.325 V with decent thermals

i like the non-reference size - shorter and a bit wider
-- i had to butcher my case to fit my Diamond reference HD 5870.

Well i'm not a big fan of powercolor... I would buy XFX, Sapphire, MSI, ASUS and Gigabyte before a powercolor card... Though it's not really based on experience just the perception that I have of them (ie I might be wrongly biased against them). I don't mean that they are an absolute do not buy ever like ECS though lol.

How did you manage to up the voltage on that card (it's the one with the ''car looking'' shroud with the fan in the middle and copper heatpipe out of the top right?) and can you do it on the 5850 and 5830 models with the same cooler?

 

[apoppin]

Well i'm not a big fan of powercolor... I would buy XFX, Sapphire, MSI, ASUS and Gigabyte before a powercolor card... Though it's not really based on experience just the perception that I have of them (ie I might be wrongly biased against them). I don't mean that they are an absolute do not buy ever like ECS though lol.

How did you manage to up the voltage on that card (it's the one with the ''car looking'' shroud with the fan in the middle and copper heatpipe out of the top right?) and can you do it on the 5850 and 5830 models with the same cooler?

i didn't pick it; i always look for price among similar A-i-Bs. AMD sent it to me because i believe they are proud of their mature process and overclocking abilities. i know they didn't cherry pick it or i would be over 1GHz now. i don't believe that Nvidia nor AMD are quite the "old" companies they were. They have both matured imo.

Yes, that is the description; i would post a pic of it but my permissions for posting attachments are not enabled. i posted a pic of it in my own review as "AMD's answer to GTX 480" as it arrived the Friday the NDA expired.

AMD is signaling two things
1. There is no price war
2. They are not going to rush to bring out "5890"; they will let their partners compete with overclocked cards

i got it to overclock with Afterburner and i was able to unlock the voltage when i edited the config files. i had to play with it for quite a long time,

And there might have been some good luck for me as other reviewers have been unsuccessful with it.

 

[RussianSensation]

2. They are not going to rush to bring out "5890"; they will let their partners compete with overclocked cards

I think AMD is changing their strategy now since 28 nor 32nm processes are going to be viable this year at all from either Foundry Company or TSMC. The intention is to use Southern Islands to compete with GTX480 and its possible refresh. I highly doubt there will be any refresh of 5870 series at this point. Looks like a "hybrid" northern islands and evergreen card (or 3 of them rather) are going to come out in 2010 and 2011 is when 28nm new gen will arrive:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/..._Different_Suppliers_Hybrid_Architecture.html

 

[Dark4ng3l]

Well it's my understanding that they can probably release a "5890" type card on a dime as it will be the same design as the current 5870 boards just with faster clocks. They might be waiting for fermi to actually ship or to actually be available before doing that though.

 

[tweakboy]

Green screen of death LOL

not surprising at all.

 

[solofly]

Nah, most 5870's should do 900MHz on the core with stock voltage easily. For the vRAM I agree though.

I haven't tasted my 5870s individually but I'm only stable upto 875mhz...

Funny thing is Auto-Tune tells me I should be stable all the way upto 890/1290 and I'm far from it...lol