thraashman
Lifer
- Apr 10, 2000
- 11,112
- 1,585
- 126
second video of doc saying she wants a lambo for selling baby parts.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/politics/anti-abortion-group-releases-second-planned-parenthood-video/
Every single last conservative in this country.
let me try to understand, when in you mind does a baby feel pain? the second the feet leave the woman? its first breath? its first bowel movement? please tell us.
You would murder an innocent child because his mother was raped? That's horrible.
At what point does she lose the right to murder her child? This is a human child at the moment of conception, no different than you or me right? What if she was raped by her husband and repressed the memory until the child was 2 years old, can she still kill him?
No idea when a fetus feels pain. It wasn't my contention that it is an issue to me.
A Baby exists after Birth.
Continuum fallacyWhat is really different 1 minute before birth vs 1 minute after birth? Or what about a premature birth, vs one that is on time and not born yet and possibly further along in the pregancy even? Or how about one who is a week late?
Any evidence of PP selling "body parts on the black market"?Abortion is murder, no way around it, no matter how much you try to sugarcoat and play word games. You're killing an unborn human child at some point in the developmental stage. And this whole mess of PP selling dismembered baby body parts on the black market just makes it that much worse.
Let's be honest for a moment.
Rape is used by the pro-choice side as an extreme example. And it is extreme. It's rare to conceive from rape. And it's a horrible situation. The mother must decide between bearing a child pf rape, or killing it though it is innocent. We on pro-life side have our corollary: late-term abortion, which is also rare. It forces you guys to either admit that the child is at some point a human being within the womb, or to endorse killing what is plainly a baby.
Nonetheless these challenges are fair because they do happen.
Given the mother's options, I can't bring myself to force her to birth a rapist's child. That should be left to her. But no matter what I position I endorse, it's a terrible option.
What is really different 1 minute before birth vs 1 minute after birth?
Or what about a premature birth, vs one that is on time and not born yet and possibly further along in the pregancy even? Or how about one who is a week late?
Be honest, using birth as a determination as to when it is a baby is pretty dumb.
Abortion is murder, no way around it, no matter how much you try to sugarcoat and play word games. You're killing an unborn human child at some point in the developmental stage. And this whole mess of PP selling dismembered baby body parts on the black market just makes it that much worse.
Abortion is murder, no way around it, no matter how much you try to sugarcoat and play word games. You're killing an unborn human child at some point in the developmental stage. And this whole mess of PP selling dismembered baby body parts on the black market just makes it that much worse.
The difference is Birth. Before Birth=Not a Baby, after Birth=Baby.
Be sure to send your mom flowers next mothers day for being pro life.
The difference is Birth. Before Birth=Not a Baby, after Birth=Baby.
You need to have that definition as your bedrock in order to justify killing it.
"It's just a clump of cells...It's just a clump of cells...It's just a clump of cells...It's just a clump of cells...It's just a clump of cells...It's just a clump of cells...It's just a clump of cells..." [rocking on haunches]
Yeah, it's so exciting to tell your relatives, your friends and your co-workers that you're going to have a fetus!The difference is Birth. Before Birth=Not a Baby, after Birth=Baby.
Yeah, it's so exciting to tell your relatives, your friends and your co-workers that you're going to have a fetus!
Tasty.Imagine the outrage if puppy parts were being sold.
If I kill a pregnant woman, why would I be charged for 2 murders?The difference is Birth. Before Birth=Not a Baby, after Birth=Baby.
Too bad.Be sure to send your mom flowers next mothers day for being pro life.
Do you actually believe that?Every single last conservative in this country.
Tasty.
If I kill a pregnant woman, why would I be charged for 2 murders?
Too bad.
Would you?
Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws. The states include: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. At least 23 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy ("any state of gestation," "conception," "fertilization" or "post-fertilization"); these are indicated below with an asterisk (*).