I was hit. :-o

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Harabecw
I don't know. But I can tell you there here its a little different. You just don't take your personal grudges to the court.
what will it cost to sue someone over this kind of thing? that might be the reason. If you decide on it around here expect to pay $3k+ just in legal fees.

I *think* you don't pay anything if you lose, at least with most 1-800-SUE-EVERYONE lawyers like you see on TV here. If he wins, the lawyer will take 25-50%.

Some things are worth suing over, but America is going crazy. The amount of greed and lack of concern for others here... heck, the lack of freaking ethics here is disgusting.

Yeah, cheapgoose, it's getting really bad. I would actually like to be a teacher, but I'm worried about being sued for failing a student, or being accused of sexual harrasment because I don't give a student an A.

 

[Brutuskend]

You gotta think.

This guy WAS your age once, and he KNOWS what usually goes on when a 15 year old girl and a 17 year old boy are in a car after dark. Ad to that the fact that she snuk out, and what would YOU think was going on??

He shouldn't have hit you, but be glad that's ALL he did.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
So I was taking this girl home and we stopped outside her house and her dad comes up to the car and hits me.

Sure, she wasn't supposed to be outside, sure, it was after curfew, but nothing can justify him hitting me.

So, how would one ensure their ability to sue the individual?

Do I need to file a police report and press charges or can I just sue?

:Q

 

[Pliablemoose]

Am assuming you don't live in Texas, cuz he would have shot you if you pulled that sh1t here.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
How about bringing his daughter home on time?

I swear to God people who sue for sh-t like this deserve what they get.

I'm sorry, but no matter the reason... violence is never the answer and this guy needs to pay for his stupidity.

This is all assuming that amdforever2 did nothing to provoke said attack.

Agreed. Assaulting a minor is definitely wrong.

And, sheesh, didn't any of you pull stuff like going out late or sneaking behind parents when you were little? Good gawd...that's part of growing up and, eventually, getting into trouble with the parents and getting grounded.

Or were most of you stuck in the basement playing Dungeons and Dragons???

BTW, being the parent of a 15 year old, myself (well, 16 on Sat.), I can safely say I would ground my daughter, probably for the rest of the summer and the two would never see each other again. I'm sure she'd try to find ways but she wouldn't succeed. There are ways to enforce rules.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
How about bringing his daughter home on time?

I swear to God people who sue for sh-t like this deserve what they get.

I'm sorry, but no matter the reason... violence is never the answer and this guy needs to pay for his stupidity.

This is all assuming that amdforever2 did nothing to provoke said attack.

Agreed. Assaulting a minor is definitely wrong.

And, sheesh, didn't any of you pull stuff like going out late or sneaking behind parents when you were little? Good gawd...that's part of growing up and, eventually, getting into trouble with the parents and getting grounded.

Yes, I did. Had I gotten caught doing something like this and gotten smacked by some girl's dad, I would have deserved it, just like this guy does. I sure wouldn't get all flustered and talk about suing the guy.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend
You gotta think.

This guy WAS your age once, and he KNOWS what usually goes on when a 15 year old girl and a 17 year old boy are in a car after dark. Ad to that the fact that she snuk out, and what would YOU think was going on??

He shouldn't have hit you, but be glad that's ALL he did.

Uh, no. I'm 16 and I can tell you people extremely often drive around after dark with no romantic purposes. They are just restless and bored.

Guy and girl alone after dark most definitely does not equate to anything romantic...

Possible? Oh for sure. I'm merely saying its not a usual thing, its closer to uncommon.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I strongly suggest you suck it up & go talk to the guy.

& I hope your children pull this crap on you if you're ever a parent:|

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Jugernot

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
How about bringing his daughter home on time?

I swear to God people who sue for sh-t like this deserve what they get.

I'm sorry, but no matter the reason... violence is never the answer and this guy needs to pay for his stupidity.

This is all assuming that amdforever2 did nothing to provoke said attack.

Agreed. Assaulting a minor is definitely wrong.

And, sheesh, didn't any of you pull stuff like going out late or sneaking behind parents when you were little? Good gawd...that's part of growing up and, eventually, getting into trouble with the parents and getting grounded.

Yes, I did. Had I gotten caught doing something like this and gotten smacked by some girl's dad, I would have deserved it, just like this guy does. I sure wouldn't get all flustered and talk about suing the guy.

I should have said suing is stupid in this case...but...he definitely has cause to file charges.

And I'd do it, too.

 

[murphy55d]

I'm just trying to visualize a grown man throwing a toy firetruck at some kid in a car.

 

[Lovepig]

File a report if you want, but don't be dumb and do the court thing.

Besides since she is a minor and was missing, he could report YOU for kidnapping. Assuming you took her without HIS permission, her's is irrelevant, being 15.

Don't let your hurt pride get you in worse trouble. Suck it up. Or if your really trying to be a man, go talk to him about what he did. If he hits you again beat his butt (in self-defense of course!) - or is winning a throw-down against an old man not an option?

 

[m2kewl]

if that was my daughter, you bet i'll beat your ass with a baseball bat. then i proceed to beat her ass with the bloodied baseball bat.

like someone else said, you're lucky he didn't report missing/kidnapping to the police.

 

[AgentBehemoth]

Well what I can't wait for and what I think is going to be the biggest hoot is when this tool goes to the cops and says that some minor chic that he kidnaps dad has assaulted him with a toy.

And yes if you took a minor that you "knew" had snuck out and you weren't given permission by her guardian to take her with you then you kidnapped her, and you did know cause you said so here. He probably could have blown your head off in his driveway and gotten away with it when he told them you were trying to kidnap his daughter, which you had.

You are definately a Darwin finalist.


Hows about giving us the story you're gonna give the cops cause if you tell it to them like you've told it here they're gonna lock you up for stupidity. What a maroon.

 

[moonshinemadness]

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Booty
Well, let's see... if I was a parent and had a 15 year old daughter, I'd be nervous about her dating an older guy in the first place. Then if she snuck out late to be somewhere with him, and I didn't know where they were or what they had been up to... well, just put yourself in his shoes...

What if he went to check on her for some reason and found her gone? And you haven't said anything about what was going on in the car... if I see my daugter coming back from sneaking out, making out with an older guy in his car... well, I probably wouldn't hit him. But I'd be pretty pissed and can't say (without hearing both sides) that I necessarily blame this guy for "assaulting" you (did it even hurt?).

On top of all that, it sounds like you were well-aware that she was sneaking out, which just isn't cool. It's disrespectful... and if you care at all about the girl then you should care about her parents' wishes (which to my knowledge werent' unreasonable). I can't believe you have the nerve to try to sue or press charges after this... that's about as logical as him pressing charges for kidnapping or something. Good lord... what you should be doing is apologizing for taking his daughter out past curfew.

I mean, damn, am I alone here or does anyone else hear crap like this and feel like society's on a downward spiral?

I second that!

:beer:

I third it....

 

[Gunslinger08]

Wow, some of you people are just retarded.

Her father could NOT file kidnapping charges against the kid. It will never stand up in court. Trust me. Done.

The kid SHOULD file a police report against the father, in case something happens again in the future, to show a history with the same guy.

People deserving to have something happen to them does not make it legal when it does happen to them. Sometimes, I probably deserve to be shot, but I'd hope the police would still arrest the guy who did it.

 

[moonshinemadness]

Originally posted by: luvya

Originally posted by: Booty
Well, let's see... if I was a parent and had a 15 year old daughter, I'd be nervous about her dating an older guy in the first place. Then if she snuck out late to be somewhere with him, and I didn't know where they were or what they had been up to... well, just put yourself in his shoes...

What if he went to check on her for some reason and found her gone? And you haven't said anything about what was going on in the car... if I see my daugter coming back from sneaking out, making out with an older guy in his car... well, I probably wouldn't hit him. But I'd be pretty pissed and can't say (without hearing both sides) that I necessarily blame this guy for "assaulting" you (did it even hurt?).

On top of all that, it sounds like you were well-aware that she was sneaking out, which just isn't cool. It's disrespectful... and if you care at all about the girl then you should care about her parents' wishes (which to my knowledge werent' unreasonable). I can't believe you have the nerve to try to sue or press charges after this... that's about as logical as him pressing charges for kidnapping or something. Good lord... what you should be doing is apologizing for taking his daughter out past curfew.

I mean, damn, am I alone here or does anyone else hear crap like this and feel like society's on a downward spiral?

I second that!

:beer:

I...Third...that...

 

[Rogue]

Well, all I can say is, I know a few young men who recently had sex with a couple of 15 year old girls and they were 17. Guess what? They're running the risk of jail time and being registered as sex offenders for taking liberties with a minor child. I don't know what state you're in, but 15 is still considered a child here. Second, as a police officer myself, I wouldn't do jack squat for you. You knowingly removed this child from her premises without permission or knowledge of the parents and then decided to show up in the wee hours of the morning with her and not expect reprecussions? I'd laugh at you and tell you to go home and you'd think I was a bad cop for it, but at the end of the day, you're just a young punk who learned a hard lesson today. Don't give me your whiny little, "But, but he hit me" bull$hit either, I'm not buying it. To the rest of you condoning his actions and encouraging him to press charges and/or sue. I hope to god you never have a teenage daughter because if and when you do, you'd beat the $hit out of this little piss ant yourself. All he did was damage your tiny, little juvenile ego a bit, get over it and move on. There are many more people out there with more important things to do in the justice system and this case is the moral equivalent of taking a bit crap and plugging up the pot.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Rogue
Well, all I can say is, I know a few young men who recently had sex with a couple of 15 year old girls and they were 17. Guess what? They're running the risk of jail time and being registered as sex offenders for taking liberties with a minor child. I don't know what state you're in, but 15 is still considered a child here. Second, as a police officer myself, I wouldn't do jack squat for you. You knowingly removed this child from her premises without permission or knowledge of the parents and then decided to show up in the wee hours of the morning with her and not expect reprecussions? I'd laugh at you and tell you to go home and you'd think I was a bad cop for it, but at the end of the day, you're just a young punk who learned a hard lesson today. Don't give me your whiny little, "But, but he hit me" bull$hit either, I'm not buying it. To the rest of you condoning his actions and encouraging him to press charges and/or sue. I hope to god you never have a teenage daughter because if and when you do, you'd beat the $hit out of this little piss ant yourself. All he did was damage your tiny, little juvenile ego a bit, get over it and move on. There are many more people out there with more important things to do in the justice system and this case is the moral equivalent of taking a bit crap and plugging up the pot.

You must be a sucky ass cop. I would hate to have a bull headed dick like you 'serving and protecting' me by condoning battery on someone.

 

[Rogue]

ScottyB,

How old are you? You've obviously not been around too many situations for too long, have you? First off, the offenses nearly balance each other out. Considering the cases like Polly Klaas and Elizabeth Smart, how can you not understand the momentary anger this parent displayed upon discovering his daughter missing from his house? We don't know that he didn't wake up and find her missing from her bed with no explanation at all, now do we? In fact, I'm sure that's what happened. Second, this 17 year old male removed this 15 year old child from her home after curfew. He took her god knows where and did god knows what with her. He may never admit to what he actually did to us or anyone else anyway. I caught my brother's 15 year old girlfriend in a tent with two sleeping bags zipped together and two condom wrappers underneath. They both said they didn't have sex until the used condom was found nearby. Third, you are obviously a part of either this current generation or a generation past that insists on taking no responsibility for their own irresponsible actions. He knew what he was doing was wrong, he must have known that he could suffer some consequences for it and he did, minor ones at that. So he got something thrown at him, if that's even what happened. It's not like he was brutally beaten and kicked by this guy. He even admitted more or less that he suffered no real physical damage. Now ask me why I should waste my time, my department's time, my court's time and the tax payers hard earned money to take a case and run with it on this one? All things told, this one is a no brainer that I would guess easily better than 50% of cops in this country would not waste their time on. Keep in mind also, that you have no relevant experience in dealing with criminal matters other than watching COPS and you know less than I do about the legalities of this entire situation, even though he hasn't even really given us a full detailed story in the first place. Never mind the fact that no court in it's right mind is going to prosecute this case under all the circumstances listed above and you've got yourself one big bull$hit party.

 

[Scouzer]

Blah. I take it back. No need for any more personal attacks then this forum already has.

 

[CChaos]

AHAHAHA. Good thing you waited awhile to post "I was hit with a toy firetruck" or you wouldn't have gotten such a warm welcome. You impress me as a idiot. Too bad dad didn't break out the old fashion metal Tonka on your ass.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Rogue
ScottyB,

How old are you? You've obviously not been around too many situations for too long, have you? First off, the offenses nearly balance each other out. Considering the cases like Polly Klaas and Elizabeth Smart, how can you not understand the momentary anger this parent displayed upon discovering his daughter missing from his house? We don't know that he didn't wake up and find her missing from her bed with no explanation at all, now do we? In fact, I'm sure that's what happened. Second, this 17 year old male removed this 15 year old child from her home after curfew. He took her god knows where and did god knows what with her. He may never admit to what he actually did to us or anyone else anyway. I caught my brother's 15 year old girlfriend in a tent with two sleeping bags zipped together and two condom wrappers underneath. They both said they didn't have sex until the used condom was found nearby. Third, you are obviously a part of either this current generation or a generation past that insists on taking no responsibility for their own irresponsible actions. He knew what he was doing was wrong, he must have known that he could suffer some consequences for it and he did, minor ones at that. So he got something thrown at him, if that's even what happened. It's not like he was brutally beaten and kicked by this guy. He even admitted more or less that he suffered no real physical damage. Now ask me why I should waste my time, my department's time, my court's time and the tax payers hard earned money to take a case and run with it on this one? All things told, this one is a no brainer that I would guess easily better than 50% of cops in this country would not waste their time on. Keep in mind also, that you have no relevant experience in dealing with criminal matters other than watching COPS and you know less than I do about the legalities of this entire situation, even though he hasn't even really given us a full detailed story in the first place. Never mind the fact that no court in it's right mind is going to prosecute this case under all the circumstances listed above and you've got yourself one big bull$hit party.

Then half the cops in this country need to be fired. Uphold the law or not at all.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Dude.....are you Kobe Bryant?????

 

[Thraxen]

So what... do we actually have people here practically advocating hitting minors with hard objects everytime they break curfew or cause a friend to do so?? WTF? Who the hell didn't break a curfew growing up? The fact that he was hit with a toy is totally irrelevant... don't think so? I'll be glad to whack any of you with a Tonka truck and see what you think. Granted, we don't really have all the facts (i.e. how hard was he hit, etc...), but that is exactly the reason you shouldn't be dismissing it like it was nothing. And, no, I'm not advocating suing.

 

[Rogue]

ScottyB,

You have no idea what it's like, none. This case is a no brainer. I suppose I should write a traffic citation for every time I see someone speeding then? Or every time someone is playing their music too loud? Or every time someone breaks a law that is on the books, right? At the all knowing age of 19 in college and with a page title of "Deranged Fool" and an aspiring actor, I'm gonna put a lot of faith in your views on the real world, yeah, that's what I'll do. I've been a cop for over 8 years now. You've been a cop for, never, so I guess you know what you're talking about. Hey, maybe you played a cop in a play about a 15 year old girl taken out of her home by a 17 year old and you arrested the father and put the bastard away for life for simply thinking out loud about throwing a plastic toy at someone? That must be it. Speak not of something you know nothing about. Oh wait, that's what actors do, sorry. Yes, I'm making this personal now.