ICE fires first shot.

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There are those of us who have long said this population should be legalized and brought under all relevant protections of the law. Furthermore there should be a large organized program for short and long term work visas that are not bound to a particular employer for people from Mexico and Central America along with easier routes to permanent residency and citizenship (especially applicable to those who served in the armed forces). As for the misdemeanor that they might have committed by crossing into the US I truly do not give a fuck. We have a multiple felon for a president so I would appreciate it if you would stop clutching your pearls.



You are though.
If I recall, one of the ironic byproducts of hardening against border crossings was to encourage formerly seasonal workers to just stay permanently.
 

NWRMidnight

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I never claimed there was an open border law. I have stated that immigration laws have been ignored. My proof of that is eleven million illegal immigrants residing in the US. Six thousand and change crossed into the US every day under the Biden administration.
In our need for a peasant class to mow lawns and clean toilets we pretty much fucked over a whole bunch of people because they are all now criminals with no road to citizenship. Who did that help? Who benefits from a group of people who won't turn in their employer for not paying overtime? Who benefits from employees that aren't covered by workers comp?

Don't even try to tell me that I'm on the wrong side of this.
LOL! You are narrow minded which is why you are looking at this with blinders on. First of all, if you actually cared to really look at the numbers, all the data, the full picture instead of your narrow manipulated view of the numbers and facts provided to you by your handlers, you will find that the trajectory of increased boarder crossings started long before Biden took office. In fact, the increase started before Covid, declined in the middle of 2020, and then started to substantially increase towards the end of 2020. As much as you want to deny the truth, the increase started before Biden was President. Second, the increased flow of immigrants into the US was predicted to happen long before the 2020 elections. Biden also deported nearly double that of Trump, and Obama. So those facts alone show you are on the wrong side of this, because of your misguided (bullshit) view of what took place. Also, your 11 million "illegals" in the US, and 6,000 a day crossing include those that are actualy here undocumented legally, waiting for their asylum court case to be heard, PER OUR LAWS!

If your claims where true, why is it that Trump has had to revolk at least 1/2 a million to a million, people's legal status and told them to get out. ICE is grabbing people who are going to their immigrantion appointments and court dates, doing it right.. Seems to me, if there really was a huge problem with illegals being in this country, as your position indicates, why does Trump need to revolk those people's legal status to "buff" his deportation numbers, and why is ICE targeting people who are following the rules and laws?

You really want to know what our biggest problem is, when it comes to undocumented immigrants? Answer: the path to legal status and citizenship. It takes years, and lots of money to ge there. And now we have an administration who is grabbing people off the streets who are in the process of walking that long and expensive path.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Hmm so birth right citizenship isnt a guarantee, and “homegrowns” are next up. Anyone they want to target can and will be
 

K1052

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Hmm so birth right citizenship isnt a guarantee, and “homegrowns” are next up. Anyone they want to target can and will be

As someone who is morally opposed to virtually all capital punishment I think anybody who tries this should get the fucking chair.
 
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Hmm so birth right citizenship isnt a guarantee, and “homegrowns” are next up. Anyone they want to target can and will be
Going to be fun for people who had closed adoptions and literally cannot find out who their birth parents were.
 

nakedfrog

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Hmm so birth right citizenship isnt a guarantee, and “homegrowns” are next up. Anyone they want to target can and will be
Don't forget ending the temporary status for Haitians, giving them carte blanche to kidnap people that, you know, "look Haitian" and detain/deport them without due process.
 
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Jaskalas

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I have already posted this.. before but you did not answer..

The GOP has never put forth any immigration laws / etc..

Donald Trump has personally benefited from hiring illegals at his companies

The only fucking thing the GOP has done is round of brown people like cattle.. put them in shitty situations.

there have been many cases where immigrants are in the middle of getting citizenship / permanent status and they get deported.

ICE is not going after criminals.. they are going after honest people trying to make a better living for themselves..



Do you get a hardon for treating people like this.. because that is the only thing that is happening right now..

Here is an example of gross violation of basic decency and humanity by our border gestapo.
 
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