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tw1164

Diamond Member
Dec 8, 1999
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yeah fifty all the way. sent it back today. finally found someone to help me.

50 cent is a really fun(ny) game. I was able to buy it for $10 @ newegg last xmas. Anyone who likes 3rd person action games would like it.
 

Saint Nick

Lifer
Jan 21, 2005
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I can't believe people take video games this seriously.

Let's all get fat gangster tattoo's placed on our stomachs in an Olde English font that says "VGs 4 LyFe".

Thoughts?
 

SR1729

Senior member
Jan 11, 2010
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This

Most people look at acheivement whoring just as bad as stat padding or boosting like in MW2. If you don't earn it, then you don't deserve having it (is the general thought process).

and

So youre trying to interrupt a total stranger's valuable game time so you can get a few symbolic points that mean nothing in reality, and you think he's the idiot?

Unless I knew you, I probably would have told you to fuck off, too. Nothing personal.
 

artemicion

Golden Member
Jun 9, 2004
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This



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Unless I knew you, I probably would have told you to fuck off, too. Nothing personal.

LOL. Wow. Yes. Let's establish a generally recognized heirarchy regarding what constitutes the legitimate use of one's time WHILE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME.

Sorry. But I can't resist because a lot of your are basically calling this person an idiot for going after achievements. Really? You're going to thumb your nose at someone because he or she spends time to "get a few symbolic points that mean nothing in reality?" Ok, I'll play devil's advocate. I'm a cancer researcher who finds that every minute useless skinbags like you spend on your xbox is a waste of time because you're competing in MW2 for "symbolic points" or competing in WoW for "symbolic equipment" or competing in SC2 for "symbolic reputation" that means nothing in all realities outside of South Korea. I'm a HIV researcher in Rwanda who thinks that you're wasting your @$(*&@ time every minute you spend in front of your console.

You think running through a virtual landscape whilst grasping at flagpoles and rescuing vitual princesses from virtual turtles-dragons is a legitimate use of your time while criticizing another person for pursuing "symbolic points"? "Oh you know, saving the princess in Mario Galaxy 2 is legit, but if you're actually going to go after all the stars for meaningless "symbolic" points, you've crossed some arbitrary line that separates what constitutes an acceptible way to spend your time from a waste of effort that only an idiot would engage in." "Getting kills in MW2 with the throwing knife is LEGIT but getting kills with the grenade launcher is super lame and it makes me run from my mom's basement into my closet and thrash about angrily whilst screaming obscenities at NEWBS." Or maybe you're the type of gamer that only plays Madden with the HOMIES and think people who play WoW are lame because spending time collecting loot is totally inferior to spending hours throwing virtual footballs with a virtual Peyton Manning at a virtual Reggie Wayne while watching an endless stream of Snickers commercials is a totally noble effort.

What metric are YOU using, pray tell?
 

SR1729

Senior member
Jan 11, 2010
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LOL. Wow. Yes. Let's establish a generally recognized heirarchy regarding what constitutes the legitimate use of one's time WHILE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME.

You're confused and/or off-topic. We're not - at least I'm not - talking about establishing what "legitimate use of one's time while playing a video game" is. We're talking about person A imposing on person B for the sole benefit of person A.

The validity of achievements and gamer points is a separate topic. I suspect others in this thread may have called into question the validity of such a cause, but you replied to my response and at no point did I discuss whether or not such a pursuit was a worthy one. I simply stated I'd tell him to fuck off because I'm not wasting my time helping a total stranger earn points.

Given the above, the rest of your post is worthless... not unlike the beginning of it.

What metric are YOU using, pray tell?

Fun, since you asked... not that it has anything to do with the damn thread.
 

artemicion

Golden Member
Jun 9, 2004
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You're confused and/or off-topic. We're not - at least I'm not - talking about establishing what "legitimate use of one's time while playing a video game" is. We're talking about person A imposing on person B for the sole benefit of person A.

The validity of achievements and gamer points is a separate topic. I suspect others in this thread may have called into question the validity of such a cause, but you replied to my response and at no point did I discuss whether or not such a pursuit was a worthy one. I simply stated I'd tell him to fuck off because I'm not wasting my time helping a total stranger earn points.

Given the above, the rest of your post is worthless... not unlike the beginning of it.



Fun, since you asked... not that it has anything to do with the damn thread.

You directly quoted a poster who inferred that the OP is an "idiot" because he is bothering another individual in the pursuit of "symbolic points that mean nothing in reality." The quoted poster clearly made a judgment regarding Plaintiff's pursuit of "symbolic points that mean nothing in reality," implying that OP would not be an "idiot" if he were pursuing more legitimate aims. You then explicitly endorsed that poster's position by saying "This".

If you wish to dissociate from that poster's beliefs, I would be more careful in the future when using quotes and "this".

I assume that you wouldn't tell a drowning man to "f off" if he asked you for help. So this entire topic necessarily implies some level of judgment regarding the worthiness of the OP's efforts.

Bottom line is, OP made a relatively simple request. A request that is not only simple to accept, but also can be simply and politely declined. By expressing your intent to impolitely decline if faced with a similar request, I ssumed that you are either rendering your opinion on the worthiness of his request, or are just an overall jack@$$ that treats others with disdain. I guess I assumed that you were not the latter. My apoligies.
 

SR1729

Senior member
Jan 11, 2010
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You directly quoted a poster who inferred that the OP is an "idiot" because he is bothering another individual in the pursuit of "symbolic points that mean nothing in reality."

I also quoted a poster who implied that gamer points were worth far too much to earn in such cheap, diminishing fashion. The common thread among both quotes in my post is that the lot of us think it's rude to ask a stranger to stop what he's doing to help you fulfill specific achievement tasks. You missed the common key point in both quotes and, instead, latched onto something irrelevant and went on an asphyxiating diatribe about it.

I assume that you wouldn't tell a drowning man to "f off" if he asked you for help.

A drowning man is in immediate danger. Someone on the other side of the planet asking me to stop what I'm doing to he can earn an achievement isn't even remotely analogous. Try again.

Bottom line is, OP made a relatively simple request. A request that is not only simple to accept, but also can be simply and politely declined.

That's true. If you want to debate whether any hostility is warranted in declining the request, that's fine - it's on topic . On that note, most people making requests like joph's are looking to stat-pad, and lately we've all been inundated with such requests on XBL. So our patience is short. Forgive us, please.

I assumed that you are either rendering your opinion on the worthiness of his request, or are just an overall jack@$$ that treats others with disdain. I guess I assumed that you were not the latter. My apoligies.

That's where you got into trouble: you made a knee jerk assumption and then spent the following 10 minutes concocting an argument against its foundation. Your bad, not mine.
 

artemicion

Golden Member
Jun 9, 2004
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A drowning man is in immediate danger. Someone on the other side of the planet asking me to stop what I'm doing to he can earn an achievement isn't even remotely analogous. Try again.

And why is it note "even remotely analogous"? YES! It's because of the worthiness of the request! We readily (and apparently, rudely) dismiss requests that are deemed to be superficial, like asking for help obtaining an achievement. We DO NOT readily (and apparently, rudely) dismiss requests that are NOT superficial, like saving someone's life.

The fact that you don't think they are analogous precisely supports my entire thesis: You are being a jack@$$ because you think achievements are superficial. My point is that it is hypocritical to be a jack@$$ based on such a judgment because video games are all superficial on some level. Therefore, not off topic. Thanks for reading!

Most people in this thread are criticizing OP because they think going after achievements is stupid. Or maybe they think that asking for help in any situation is stupid. I'm beginning to think maybe it is the latter for some of you.
 

SR1729

Senior member
Jan 11, 2010
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The fact that you don't think they are analogous precisely supports my entire thesis: You are being a jack@$$ because you think achievements are superficial.

Actually, Jackass, I think VIDEO GAMES are superficial... that's why the request is ridiculous. I'm engaging in a superficial task for the purpose of having a little fun and relaxing. Serving someone else's goals ruins that purpose.

Seriously, you need to stop assuming already... and way to dodge the entire issue of your original assumptions and your flawed reading comprehension. You're cherry picking little nuggets here and there for the purpose of trying to prove some flawed theories of yours regarding social interaction.
 

Thraxen

Diamond Member
Dec 3, 2001
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I'm engaging in a superficial task for the purpose of having a little fun and relaxing. Serving someone else's goals ruins that purpose.

Wow... you guys are really going at here. But I'm going to throw out the same point I made earlier. What's wrong with some simply replying to the request like an adult? Simply saying "No" is just as easy (arguably easier) and certainly less combative than replying with "F*ck off". Simply ignoring the request is even easier.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I still think it's digital panhandling.

It's not that I don't dig achievements. I do. My own. I get a little tingle whenever I hear that achievement unlocked sound.

What I don't care for is being bothered by strangers during my game time. For the same reason I dislike advertising - if I'm not interested, I don't want to be bothered. I'm not interested in other peoples gamerscores. In a sense, he's literally barging in your house to do this. I appreciate it as much as a jehovah's witness.

This isn't the same as an old lady needing help across the street or HIV research. That's an absolute absurd comparison.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Wow... you guys are really going at here. But I'm going to throw out the same point I made earlier. What's wrong with some simply replying to the request like an adult? Simply saying "No" is just as easy (arguably easier) and certainly less combative than replying with "F*ck off". Simply ignoring the request is even easier.

Ignoring it would be the appropriate response, but I can sympathize with the fuck off.
 

artemicion

Golden Member
Jun 9, 2004
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Actually, Jackass, I think VIDEO GAMES are superficial... that's why the request is ridiculous. I'm engaging in a superficial task for the purpose of having a little fun and relaxing. Serving someone else's goals ruins that purpose.

Seriously, you need to stop assuming already... and way to dodge the entire issue of your original assumptions and your flawed reading comprehension. You're cherry picking little nuggets here and there for the purpose of trying to prove some flawed theories of yours regarding social interaction.

How am I cherry picking little nuggets here and there? Do you even know what cherry picking means??? And how again is my reading comprehension flawed? This entire thread appears to be an OP complaining about a rude bastard's response to his simple request with a bunch of people defending the rude response and a bunch of people offended by the rude response. I, for one, am offended, and I am expressing why.
 

American Gunner

Platinum Member
Aug 26, 2010
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I never had a random person, outside of a forum ask for achievement help. I am sure I wouldn't be rude, but I am very rude to the idiots that send the 10th prestige messages on MW2. A lot of them would come back with messages that I didn't need to be a dick, but I don't care. People like that ruin the fun for others by exploiting one of the many problems with that game.
 

Bman123

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2008
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There are so many douche bags on xbl it's not even funny. 3 days ago I was playing with some racist ass hill billys. The n bomb was getting dropped like no one knew a different word. I got called the n word about 50 times in one game of free for all.

Ppl just need to grow up and quit acting tough online. 90% of those ppl wouldn't say shit to someones face, that's what pisses me off the most. Cowards acting tough behind a headset is lame, I tell them to grow some balls and just admit they got owned in mw2 then I just laugh at them until I get muted...
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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There are so many douche bags on xbl it's not even funny. 3 days ago I was playing with some racist ass hill billys. The n bomb was getting dropped like no one knew a different word. I got called the n word about 50 times in one game of free for all.

Ppl just need to grow up and quit acting tough online. 90% of those ppl wouldn't say shit to someones face, that's what pisses me off the most. Cowards acting tough behind a headset is lame, I tell them to grow some balls and just admit they got owned in mw2 then I just laugh at them until I get muted...

Talking shit over XBL to the other team is a very effective mind game. They get upset (90% of them) and play worse. I do it all the time. Before the games starts and and even after it ends. I don't lose very often and am usually 1st or 2nd in points and k/d.

Even in real life, I talk just as much shit. Getting in someone's head is easy and breaks their mental focus. It is amazingly effective in soccer.
 

Bman123

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2008
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I dont get distracted from the game, if anything it makes me focus more and really try to own the dumb people I am playing against. I am white and got called the n word 50 times, I won 4 free for all games in a row. The ole get inside their head game doesn't work on everyone.

Like the saying goes ( know yourself so they don't assassinate your character)
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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It doesn't work on everyone, but it works on enough people it is a valid strategy. Even if it backfires and the other people play harder, it just makes for a better game.

And I get called racial slurs all the time because somehow I sound "black". I have friends I've played with for years somehow not know I am white.
 

RavenSEAL

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2010
8,661
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This is what you get for paying $5 bucks a month, come join the money-free, kid-free side of gaming.
 
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