If money wasn't an issue...

doclucas

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If money wasn't an issue, which SSD drive would you buy today and why?
1) Intel X25-M G2 160GB
2) Intel X25-E 64GB
3) PhotoFast G-Monster V5 256GB
4) OCZ Vertex 256GB
5) Other (please specify)
 

ScorcherDarkly

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Originally posted by: doclucas
or what about Super Talent RAIDDrive which suppose to give double the speed of the Z-DRIVEs: http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...month-to-the-rich-and/
shoudl be available next month only, no reviews yet, only claimed specs...

I picked a PCIe drive that I knew how to find a link to easily. Either of those would likely be better, sure. However, what exactly do you NEED a 2 TB SSD for?
 

doclucas

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The RAIDDrive starts from 256GB version and goes up to 2 TB, I wasn't referring to any specific size and I personally certainly don't need a 2 TB SSD, but let's go back to the original question and rephrase it a bit:
If you had to choose a SATA SSD drive for your laptop (and money is still not an issue), which one would you buy and why? Which one would be the best money can buy? Any of the 4 options I wrote or maybe a different one?
 

Ben90

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The Intel g2 is the most widely known performance SSD; i do believe though that the slc ocz agility is now faster than the intel by a little bit... i haven't really done the research; just skimmed over one sites graphs in seconds

You cant really go wrong with either....A vertex wouldnt be bad either, i doubt its possible to notice the difference between any of the top tier drives
 

Zap

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I would get two Patriot TorqX 256GB to run in RAID0. They're basically OCZ Vertex with longer warranty (10 years). I would get the Intel but I kind of like the capacity and warranty.
 

alyarb

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Originally posted by: doclucas
If money wasn't an issue, which SSD drive would you buy today and why?
1) Intel X25-M G2 160GB
2) Intel X25-E 64GB
3) PhotoFast G-Monster V5 256GB
4) OCZ Vertex 256GB
5) Other (please specify)


if you are willing to pay up to $700 for a 250GB vertex, then you need to just get three intel X25-M G1's and put them in RAID 0. it will provide you with the same storage space for the same amount of money, but be staggeringly faster (~3x) than any single drive.

 

themusgrat

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The problem with the PCI drives is that you likely won't be able to boot from them. So best case, if money was TRULY no object, I'd have a 2 Intel 160gb SSD G2s in RAID 1 as my bootup drive, and then grab some cheap $100 1TB media drive as a holdover till the new PCI-E Terabyte drives start coming out, then put 2 of those in RAID 0 for your games/media. It's a shame there's no boards out with single GPU slots, and like 5 PCI-E slots, else you could RAID 5 like 4-5 of the new 1TB drives, which all have RAID internally, but I'm guessing no PCI-E controller has room for that much bandwidth. But that's the best possible scenario, as far as storage is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1GB real-world transfer speeds with the 1TBs in RAID 0.
 

doclucas

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Originally posted by: themusgrat
The problem with the PCI drives is that you likely won't be able to boot from them. So best case, if money was TRULY no object, I'd have a 2 Intel 160gb SSD G2s in RAID 1 as my bootup drive, and then grab some cheap $100 1TB media drive as a holdover till the new PCI-E Terabyte drives start coming out, then put 2 of those in RAID 0 for your games/media. It's a shame there's no boards out with single GPU slots, and like 5 PCI-E slots, else you could RAID 5 like 4-5 of the new 1TB drives, which all have RAID internally, but I'm guessing no PCI-E controller has room for that much bandwidth. But that's the best possible scenario, as far as storage is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1GB real-world transfer speeds with the 1TBs in RAID 0.

OCZ Z-DRIVE PCI-E is bootable and so will be Super Talent's RAIDDrive PCI-E and any other PCI-E SSD drive that I heard of except for Fusion-IO.
Would this fact change any of your plans?
 

themusgrat

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Originally posted by: doclucas
Originally posted by: themusgrat
The problem with the PCI drives is that you likely won't be able to boot from them. So best case, if money was TRULY no object, I'd have a 2 Intel 160gb SSD G2s in RAID 1 as my bootup drive, and then grab some cheap $100 1TB media drive as a holdover till the new PCI-E Terabyte drives start coming out, then put 2 of those in RAID 0 for your games/media. It's a shame there's no boards out with single GPU slots, and like 5 PCI-E slots, else you could RAID 5 like 4-5 of the new 1TB drives, which all have RAID internally, but I'm guessing no PCI-E controller has room for that much bandwidth. But that's the best possible scenario, as far as storage is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1GB real-world transfer speeds with the 1TBs in RAID 0.

OCZ Z-DRIVE PCI-E is bootable and so will be Super Talent's RAIDDrive PCI-E and any other PCI-E SSD drive that I heard of except for Fusion-IO.
Would this fact change any of your plans?

Yes. Well, I might be showing my motherboard newbness here, but I didn't think all motherboards would boot from PCI-X, though I may be mistaken. I know mine doesn't, but it's an oldie. So I'd check on that first. But if it will boot for sure, I'd get 2 of the terabyte drives and put them in RAID 0. Earlier I had said I'd put the OS drives in RAID 1, that was a mistake, I meant RAID 0. With 2 drives and a clear choice between performance and reliability, definitely go for performance with SSDs. They don't have mechanical failures, so the only problems, at least with the 1TB drives, will be with their internal RAID controllers, and RAID 1 won't stop anything bad from happening. Now I'm sure that it's worth seeing the ramifications of putting 2 RAID drives into RAID, but I doubt that with SSDs, you'd see anything out of the ordinary, though someone with a good knowledge of RAID controllers would be able to say with more certainty.

But ya, if those will boot for you, then 2 TB of double RAIDed SSD is about the best you'll find. Even the higher end PCI-X solutions with huge thoroughputs almost never have a 2 terabyte capacity, so this should be the best, in terms of useability, performance, and capacity. And it should be rather future proof as well, because I doubt that SSDs will get very much faster, they'll mostly only get cheaper and have more storage space, because the flash market has already had years to mature, so at this point, you likely won't see any major changes in flash technology, at least at comparable pricepoints, that would make you want to upgrade for the next 2-3 years, and by then, since we're talking about a PC with unlimited funding, you'll want to upgrade the whole PC because of 8 core, USB 3, etc.
 

doclucas

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Originally posted by: themusgrat
Originally posted by: doclucas
Originally posted by: themusgrat
The problem with the PCI drives is that you likely won't be able to boot from them. So best case, if money was TRULY no object, I'd have a 2 Intel 160gb SSD G2s in RAID 1 as my bootup drive, and then grab some cheap $100 1TB media drive as a holdover till the new PCI-E Terabyte drives start coming out, then put 2 of those in RAID 0 for your games/media. It's a shame there's no boards out with single GPU slots, and like 5 PCI-E slots, else you could RAID 5 like 4-5 of the new 1TB drives, which all have RAID internally, but I'm guessing no PCI-E controller has room for that much bandwidth. But that's the best possible scenario, as far as storage is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1GB real-world transfer speeds with the 1TBs in RAID 0.

OCZ Z-DRIVE PCI-E is bootable and so will be Super Talent's RAIDDrive PCI-E and any other PCI-E SSD drive that I heard of except for Fusion-IO.
Would this fact change any of your plans?

Yes. Well, I might be showing my motherboard newbness here, but I didn't think all motherboards would boot from PCI-X, though I may be mistaken. I know mine doesn't, but it's an oldie. So I'd check on that first. But if it will boot for sure, I'd get 2 of the terabyte drives and put them in RAID 0. Earlier I had said I'd put the OS drives in RAID 1, that was a mistake, I meant RAID 0. With 2 drives and a clear choice between performance and reliability, definitely go for performance with SSDs. They don't have mechanical failures, so the only problems, at least with the 1TB drives, will be with their internal RAID controllers, and RAID 1 won't stop anything bad from happening. Now I'm sure that it's worth seeing the ramifications of putting 2 RAID drives into RAID, but I doubt that with SSDs, you'd see anything out of the ordinary, though someone with a good knowledge of RAID controllers would be able to say with more certainty.

But ya, if those will boot for you, then 2 TB of double RAIDed SSD is about the best you'll find. Even the higher end PCI-X solutions with huge thoroughputs almost never have a 2 terabyte capacity, so this should be the best, in terms of useability, performance, and capacity. And it should be rather future proof as well, because I doubt that SSDs will get very much faster, they'll mostly only get cheaper and have more storage space, because the flash market has already had years to mature, so at this point, you likely won't see any major changes in flash technology, at least at comparable pricepoints, that would make you want to upgrade for the next 2-3 years, and by then, since we're talking about a PC with unlimited funding, you'll want to upgrade the whole PC because of 8 core, USB 3, etc.

Here's some cool info for you to read: http://www.tweaktown.com/artic...aid_0_win_7/index.html
Any thoughts?
 

themusgrat

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Originally posted by: doclucas
Originally posted by: themusgrat
Originally posted by: doclucas
Originally posted by: themusgrat
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Here's some cool info for you to read: http://www.tweaktown.com/artic...aid_0_win_7/index.html
Any thoughts?

Now that I use my brain, I realize that it will be almost impossible to place PCI-E drives into RAID, I really really doubt that anyone has a raid chipset hooked up to PCI-X lanes on their motherboard. So I'll have to backtrack a little, and it looks like yes, 4x SATA drives in RAID will be your best bet in terms of speed, at least right now, though the terabyte drives have more impressive stats on paper, and tons of space at a higher performance level. If I was doing it, I'd get 4 160GB Intel drives, RAID0 them, then grab a terabyte drive when they come out. It all depends though on what these new internally RAIDed terabyte drives can do in real world performance, though I'm betting that the second one you linked will have insane performance, as it's got 256MB of its own ECC cache.... That's pretty sick.

Anyways final answer: Now, get the 160gb intel drives, raid 0 them. Later, watch the early reviews, pick the best terabyte drive.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: doclucas
Originally posted by: themusgrat
The problem with the PCI drives is that you likely won't be able to boot from them. So best case, if money was TRULY no object, I'd have a 2 Intel 160gb SSD G2s in RAID 1 as my bootup drive, and then grab some cheap $100 1TB media drive as a holdover till the new PCI-E Terabyte drives start coming out, then put 2 of those in RAID 0 for your games/media. It's a shame there's no boards out with single GPU slots, and like 5 PCI-E slots, else you could RAID 5 like 4-5 of the new 1TB drives, which all have RAID internally, but I'm guessing no PCI-E controller has room for that much bandwidth. But that's the best possible scenario, as far as storage is concerned. I wouldn't be surprised to see 1GB real-world transfer speeds with the 1TBs in RAID 0.

OCZ Z-DRIVE PCI-E is bootable and so will be Super Talent's RAIDDrive PCI-E and any other PCI-E SSD drive that I heard of except for Fusion-IO.
Would this fact change any of your plans?

link please? AFAIK no slot based drive is bootable.
 
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