If you're religious

Barfo

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How do you justify the millions of people that don't have a chance for salvation, just because they weren't born in a place where they would be taught to worship your god?

Is it god's fault that all these people are condemning themselves? or is it the humanity for not embracing your religion without question? or maybe it's their own fault for not embracing the foreign true faith, despite what their parents and grandparents taught them?
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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pot thread AND hate on religion thread all in one day??!!

my greatest dreams, finally realized!!
 

Kirby

Lifer
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Wow!! I bet no one has ever thought of that before!

You must be the fucking philosophical messiah!
 

spidey07

No Lifer
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You don't know much about religion. They all have their different means of salvation or enlightenment.
 

So

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<walks in>
<looks around>
"Oh, shit!"
<pulls out flash nade>
<pulls pin>
<rolls across room>
<RUN!>
 

SmoochyTX

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Apr 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: barfo
How do you justify the millions of people that don't have a chance for salvation, just because they weren't born in a place where they would be taught to worship your god?

Is it god's fault that all these people are condemning themselves? or is it the humanity for not embracing your religion without question? or maybe it's their own fault for not embracing the foreign true faith, despite what their parents and grandparents taught them?

I like pie.
 

Wheezer

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Oh goodie!...another useless religion thread......can't have enough of those...no sir.
 

JulesMaximus

No Lifer
Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
pot thread AND hate on religion thread all in one day??!!

my greatest dreams, finally realized!!

Please, I haven't seen a day go by here where there wasn't a juicy religion thread on the front page at one point or another. Nothing ever gets solved, the haters go on hating and the people with Jesus blinders on go on believing.
 

ruu

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Facepalm. Wtf? If OP wants serious replies, take it to P&N. Christ.
 

Barfo

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
pot thread AND hate on religion thread all in one day??!!

my greatest dreams, finally realized!!

I'm not hating on religion, I just want to know what's the stance on this from people of different religions.


Originally posted by: nkgreen
Wow!! I bet no one has ever thought of that before!

You must be the fucking philosophical messiah!

I didn't say I was the first to think of this, what's your point?


Originally posted by: spidey07
You don't know much about religion. They all have their different means of salvation or enlightenment.


I know they're all different, but the major ones seem to be like "We're the true faith and if you don't embrace us you'll doom yourself forever, no matter if you were a good man who did no one harm in your whole life".
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: elmer92413
You need to read Dante's Divine Comedy.
Circle I - Limbo
/thread

Everyone should read the Divine Comedy. I read Inferno for an English class and it was fucking awesome - only the people who couldn't read it said it was stupid.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: spidey07
You don't know much about religion. They all have their different means of salvation or enlightenment.

rule #1, don't respond to an obvious troll thread with what could be considered a thought out reply.
 

Barfo

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Originally posted by: elmer92413
You need to read Dante's Divine Comedy.
Circle I - Limbo
/thread

It doesn't seem right to me that a person who does no wrong gets to spend eternity in limbo just because he wasn't born a Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or whatever.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: barfo
Originally posted by: elmer92413
You need to read Dante's Divine Comedy.
Circle I - Limbo
/thread

It doesn't seem right to me that a person who does no wrong gets to spend eternity in limbo just because he wasn't born a Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or whatever.

Tough shit kid...that's just the way it is.
 

SmoochyTX

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Apr 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: barfo
Originally posted by: elmer92413
You need to read Dante's Divine Comedy.
Circle I - Limbo
/thread

It doesn't seem right to me that a person who does no wrong gets to spend eternity in limbo just because he wasn't born a Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or whatever.

:roll:
 

Crono

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If God is a supreme being, then He has the right to do whatever He pleases, and what is right/wrong is dependent on Him, not on you. If you think you are better than God, than obviously you are the one in rebellion and are putting yourself as god. It doesn't matter if you think God is just or not, because He is the one who can see things more clearly (perfectly) than you, and you are a creation of His. Doing what is right in your own eyes only leads to destruction.

"
What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be!
For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION."
So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH."
So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.

You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?"
On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it?
Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?
What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?
And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,
even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles. "

Romans 9: http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...=romans%209&version=49

Also, read God's response to Job at end of the book, and reading all of Romans (not that long, all is online) will give you better background.

 

Kirby

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Apr 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: barfo
Originally posted by: elmer92413
You need to read Dante's Divine Comedy.
Circle I - Limbo
/thread

It doesn't seem right to me that a person who does no wrong gets to spend eternity in limbo just because he wasn't born a Catholic, Protestant, Muslim or whatever.

If you don't like it, convert.
 

Barfo

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: spidey07
You don't know much about religion. They all have their different means of salvation or enlightenment.

rule #1, don't respond to an obvious troll thread with what could be considered a thought out reply.

How am I an obvious troll? :roll:
 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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You do understand that there are a huge number of interpretations of each religion right? Almost down to the individual level. You can't even begin to lump stuff in like this.

Educate yourself, do some googleing, and then come back. Right now you just sound like an ignorant potential troll.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: barfo
I know they're all different, but the major ones seem to be like "We're the true faith and if you don't embrace us you'll doom yourself forever, no matter if you were a good man who did no one harm in your whole life".

That is simply not true at all. Maybe you should talk to a leader/priest/preacher/savior what have you - basically a practicing expert of any of these religions to be informed on what they really believe. You will find they are well educated on most all religions, much more than you could imagine.
 
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