Illinois Gun Control

[piasabird]

The governor of Illinois is at it again; making even tougher gun control laws for Chicago and the lawlessness that exists there. Even though the real problem is drugs and gangs he wants to make it harder for citizens to purchase or own guns. Illinois is a police state that cant control crime in Chicago. Need More Death penalties for the first gun crime. Dont wait till criminals kill people.

People will probably go to a neighboring state and purchase firearms legally or illegally. Wisconsin and Indiana probably love this law.

It is illegal to impede illegal voters, but it is prefectly legal to obstruct the right to bear arms. We need Background checks on politicians.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/19/illinois-governor-signs-law-expanding-background-checks/

Illinois Governor Pat Quinn signed a new gun-control measure into law Sunday that requires all gun owners, including private citizens, to check the background of the person buying the gun.

Under previous legislation, adults only had to undergo a background check if they were buying guns at a licensed firearm shop or at a gun show in the state. Under the new law, gun owners are also required to report any lost or stolen firearms to the police within 72 hours.

"Guns are a plague on too many of our communities," Quinn, a Democrat, said in a statement. "Making sure guns do not fall into the wrong hands is critical to keeping the people of Illinois safe. This commonsense law will help our law enforcement crack down on crime and make our streets safer."

In Illinois, potential gun buyers are required to present a firearm owners identification card, or FOID. The cards are issued by the Illinois State Police to applicants who pass a screening of state criminal and mental health records. Under the new law, the potential seller would have to call a hotline to ensure that the would-be buyer's FOID is valid.

 

[jackstar7]

The biggest problem facing Illinois is Indiana.

 

[PokerGuy]

The biggest problem facing Illinois is Illinois.

Fixed that for you. Those idiots just keep dreaming up more gun control laws, each as useless and ineffective as the previous ones. They just don't stop to think "hey, maybe if we address the problems instead of trying to disarm law abiding citizens, we might get somewhere!".

Morons.

 

[fskimospy]

Fixed that for you. Those idiots just keep dreaming up more gun control laws, each as useless and ineffective as the previous ones. They just don't stop to think "hey, maybe if we address the problems instead of trying to disarm law abiding citizens, we might get somewhere!".

Morons.

You're right, they definitely never thought to address the problems. We should alert state government immediately.

 

[KB]

Its an attempt to solve what has been called the "gun show loophole". It requires the seller to verify the person buying the gun in a private transaction does not have a criminal record. According to http://www.people-press.org/2013/05...und-checks-bill-skepticism-about-its-chances/ there is broad support for backgrounds checks for all gun purchases and the FOID laws already exist and are carried by lawful gun owners currently.

I personally don't see this specific legislation as such a threat on our gun rights, since I go through a background check everytime I have bought a gun at a dealer; however I am certain they won't stop there. All politicians are the same. Once they see that it doesn't work they think, 'oh its not strong enough, we just need more regulation' instead of scraping it and trying something else.

 

[PokerGuy]

You're right, they definitely never thought to address the problems. We should alert state government immediately.

Apparently that would be a good idea... because all those idiots seem to be focused on is getting guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. They keep coming up with dumber and dumber schemes to address something that has nothing to do with the problem. Obviously this is another such dumb idea, a 15 minute drive to another state is all it takes to get around this for those who don't care about the law, while for law abiding citizens it creates more hassle and headaches.

The usual stupidity from Springfield.

 

[jackstar7]

Fixed that for you. Those idiots just keep dreaming up more gun control laws, each as useless and ineffective as the previous ones. They just don't stop to think "hey, maybe if we address the problems instead of trying to disarm law abiding citizens, we might get somewhere!".

Morons.

You didn't fix anything for me. Your opinon is great for you. Ain't mine.

Indiana keeps Chicago from being able to address their issues when whatever they do in Illinois is undermined by a ten-minute drive.

 

[mrwindta]

what if your gun is stolen or lost and you don't realize it until 3 or so months too late...do you get penalized for that?

 

[xBiffx]

Like always, enforceability is 0/10 of the law. When are these idiots going to realize there is no way to enforce these "common sense" laws. Or do they mean it takes no common sense? Beginning to wonder.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

what if your gun is stolen or lost and you don't realize it until 3 or so months too late...do you get penalized for that?

You will receive a tattoo on your forehead that states either "I'm an idiot or a dumbass".

 

[chucky2]

Chicago problems will never be addressed because no Politician of Chicagoland, heck, no Politician period, is going to get up in front of the public and tell them that the reason Chicagoland has so much gun crime is because they have a bunch of animals living amongst their citizenry. Worse, these animals are constantly churned out, raised, fostered, protected, and covered for by this same large %'s of this same citizenry, and large %'s of this % are said animals themselves.

Because that will never happen, we will have at this forever. Indiana, whatever, doesn't matter. The fact is people who aren't animals don't behave that way, regardless if they're a weaponless peacenik or a total gun nut.

Probably the worst thing about this is, all Politicians know this, yet, they go forward with laws like this so they can make their political points. Instead of First, lets kill all the lawyers, maybe it should have been First, lets kill all the Politicians...

The End.

Chuck

 

[surfsatwerk]

Chicago problems will never be addressed because no Politician of Chicagoland, heck, no Politician period, is going to get up in front of the public and tell them that the reason Chicagoland has so much gun crime is because they have a bunch of animals living amongst their citizenry. Worse, these animals are constantly churned out, raised, fostered, protected, and covered for by this same large %'s of this same citizenry, and large %'s of this % are said animals themselves.

Because that will never happen, we will have at this forever. Indiana, whatever, doesn't matter. The fact is people who aren't animals don't behave that way, regardless if they're a weaponless peacenik or a total gun nut.

Probably the worst thing about this is, all Politicians know this, yet, they go forward with laws like this so they can make their political points. Instead of First, lets kill all the lawyers, maybe it should have been First, lets kill all the Politicians...

The End.

Chuck

Exactly all those illegal immigrants from Canada need to be purge so that civilized AMERICANS can live free and safe.

 

[chucky2]

Exactly all those illegal immigrants from Canada need to be purge so that civilized AMERICANS can live free and safe.

Lies. While not a beer drinker, Molson Ice isn't common here, thus, why would Canadians live here? Maybe you've got Chicago confused with Detroit? Ironically, my post applies to both...

Chuck

 

[xBiffx]

Lies. While not a beer drinker, Molson Ice isn't common here, thus, why would Canadians live here? Maybe you've got Chicago confused with Detroit? Ironically, my post applies to both...

Chuck

Don't feed the troll.

 

[PokerGuy]

Indiana keeps Chicago from being able to address their issues when whatever they do in Illinois is undermined by a ten-minute drive.

That's the whole point: the idiots just don't understand that it has nothing to do with Indiana or anywhere else. The problem is not the law abiding citizens, it's the criminals. These initiatives only serve to hassle law abiding citizens, they do absolutely nothing to deal with the real problems. If not Indiana it would be somewhere else. Heck, even if you magically were to stop the sale of weapons everywhere in the country overnight, there are still a half billion of them available in the country.

Complete fail from illinois.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Don't feed the troll.

I'm an American not a Canadacan't

 

[z1ggy]

In Illinois, potential gun buyers are required to present a firearm owners identification card, or FOID. The cards are issued by the Illinois State Police to applicants who pass a screening of state criminal and mental health records. Under the new law, the potential seller would have to call a hotline to ensure that the would-be buyer's FOID is valid.

I don't really see a problem? In CT, you need to pass a gun safety course, pass a backround check and anytime you purchase a fire arm, you need to present your pistol permit to the gun seller. They then call some hotline type place, make sure you are who you say you are, and you go on your way.

It's a minor inconvinience but it can keep the wrong people from getting guns who might other wise shouldn't. Obviously, criminals are going to get them illegally, but that's going to happen whether or not there are laws in place to try and "stop" that from happening.

I'm a normal law abiding citizen, and I have 3 fire arms...Never had an issue.

 

[Genx87]

You didn't fix anything for me. Your opinon is great for you. Ain't mine.

Indiana keeps Chicago from being able to address their issues when whatever they do in Illinois is undermined by a ten-minute drive.

Build a wall then and keep the people of chicago in while keeping everybody else out. Be the perfect liberal utopia. I am positive this would solve Chicago's woes.

 

[jackstar7]

Build a wall then and keep the people of chicago in while keeping everybody else out. Be the perfect liberal utopia. I am positive this would solve Chicago's woes.

As long as we're all here to discuss rational options.

 

[Genx87]

As long as we're all here to discuss rational options.

Hey you are the one complaining all the laws Chicago passes fail because of people from Indiana. What is more irrational? Making more and more laws that are ineffective? Or addressing the root causes of the violence?

 

[BoberFett]

As long as we're all here to discuss rational options.

Because a ban on minerals of certain shapes is rational...

 

[chucky2]

Hey you are the one complaining all the laws Chicago passes fail because of people from Indiana. What is more irrational? Making more and more laws that are ineffective? Or addressing the root causes of the violence?

In Chicagoland, the answer to that would be pass more laws. Doing so helps you in your re-election campaign, so it makes complete sense.

 

[fskimospy]

Hey you are the one complaining all the laws Chicago passes fail because of people from Indiana. What is more irrational? Making more and more laws that are ineffective? Or addressing the root causes of the violence?

How do you suggest addressing the root causes of the violence?

 

[chucky2]

How can you address something that can't even be brought up because it kills may risk your re-election/job?

 

[xBiffx]

How do you suggest addressing the root causes of the violence?

Stop giving people a reason to not go to work. Just a start.