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:: Biostar GeForce 6100-M7 NVIDIA Socket 754 MicroATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / 10/100 Ethernet LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID (3 lbs) - $87.99

:: AMD Sempron 2800+ / 256KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / Socket 754 / Processor with Fan (3 lbs) -107.99

:: Ultra UV Wizard Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with UV Reactive Clear Side, Front USB & Firewire Ports and Ultra X-Connect 500-Watt Power Supply (28 lbs) - $106, $67.99 after rebate.

I went with TigerDirect because of the Mobo, but how does this look? Also, does the mobo have integrated video?
 

Operandi

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Originally posted by: LoKe
:: Biostar GeForce 6100-M7 NVIDIA Socket 754 MicroATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / 10/100 Ethernet LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID (3 lbs) - $87.99

:: AMD Sempron 2800+ / 256KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / Socket 754 / Processor with Fan (3 lbs) -107.99

:: Ultra UV Wizard Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with UV Reactive Clear Side, Front USB & Firewire Ports and Ultra X-Connect 500-Watt Power Supply (28 lbs) - $106, $67.99 after rebate.

I went with TigerDirect because of the Mobo, but how does this look? Also, does the mobo have integrated video?

Not good, the case and PSU are trash. Like I said previously the only case and PSU combos worth anything are Antec and InWin (Forton-Source).
 

Operandi

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Originally posted by: adammthompson
According to this review, In Win doesn't use Fortron Source PSUs anymore, and their own PSUs are not as good as Fortron Source.

Looks like you're right. If you read the review they still sound decent, though no FSP.
 
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Cooler Master / 450-Watt / 120mm LED Fan / SATA Ready / 20/24-Pin / Power Supply (6 lbs) - $87.99

Biostar K8T80-A7 Socket 754 MotherBoard and AMD Sempron 64 2800+ Processor (6 lbs) - $188.99

Ultra Wizard Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Front USB and Firewire Ports (17 lbs) - $40.99

Total after taxes and shipping is about, $404. How does that look?
 

Diasper

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If you wanna go small form factor:

Aspire X Q-Pack (Silver without Window) - Comes with 420W PSU
Asus A8N-VM CSM Micro ATX (better/rather good on-board sound - HD Azalia with low CPU %)
AMD64 3000+ S939
512MB RAM
DVD-RW (needed?) - BenQ 1640 (widely more preferred) or NEC3540 DVD-RW
Hardrive (needed?) - either Hitachi T7K250 (better) or Samsung P120 series for quietness.


Not sure on the price but how does that sort of setup look to you? The motherboard has on-board video and rather good on-board sound (HD Azalia same as Asus MVP)

Anyone want to work out what that comes to?


{edit} get the Aspire case I reckon - if you're gettin any Micro ATX case I reckon its the way forward. If you want to overclock etc if you could duct the CPU air to the rear fan you'd be sorted... not sure what'd be the best way but I'm sure it could be done. However, for what you'll be using it for I doubt you'll need an overclocked processor...
 
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Ah, well, according to most of the replies, only the Antec and inWin cases come with good PSU's, so the Aspire is probably out of the question. I don't need any ram or extra hard drives, just case, mobo, processor.

So, I'm still waiting for everyone to be able to agree or mostly agree on the same thing.
 

hurtstotalktoyou

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Cooler Master / 450-Watt / 120mm LED Fan / SATA Ready / 20/24-Pin / Power Supply (6 lbs) - $87.99

Biostar K8T80-A7 Socket 754 MotherBoard and AMD Sempron 64 2800+ Processor (6 lbs) - $188.99

Ultra Wizard Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with Front USB and Firewire Ports (17 lbs) - $40.99

Total after taxes and shipping is about, $404. How does that look?

Not good. That motherboard does not allow overclocking.

For $400, you're not going to get much. Either you'll have a very slow system, or you'll have to take a chance on a cheap case/PSU combo. I recommend the latter.
Powmax case/PSU combo
Biostar GeForce 6100-M7
Sempron 64 2600+
NEC ND-3550A
512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (Mushkin)
CA$386.34 after tax & shipping.
That leaves $13 headroom, in case you need a modem, or would rather get a 2800+.
 
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Looks pretty good. How do you think that'd run in relation to my p4 2ghz dell 4550? 512MB ram, GeForce4 Video Card.
 
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Well, I don't need the Burner or the RAM, this is what I've got :

Powmax Beige ATX Mid-Tower Case with 450Watt Power Supply (13 lbs) - $37.99

Biostar GeForce 6100-M7 NVIDIA Socket 754 MicroATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / 10/100 Ethernet LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID (3 lbs) - $87.99

AMD Sempron 3000+ / 128KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / Socket 754 / Palermo Core / Processor with Fan (3 lbs) - $121.99

What do you think? Should I get the 2800+ sempron or this one? Do you suggest I get the RAM anyways, even though I have some infineon pc2300?
 

BGuardian75

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Well, I don't need the Burner or the RAM, this is what I've got :

Powmax Beige ATX Mid-Tower Case with 450Watt Power Supply (13 lbs) - $37.99

Biostar GeForce 6100-M7 NVIDIA Socket 754 MicroATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / 10/100 Ethernet LAN / USB 2.0 / Serial ATA / RAID (3 lbs) - $87.99

AMD Sempron 3000+ / 128KB Cache / 1600MHz FSB / Socket 754 / Palermo Core / Processor with Fan (3 lbs) - $121.99

What do you think? Should I get the 2800+ sempron or this one? Do you suggest I get the RAM anyways, even though I have some infineon pc2300?


This makes no sense to me. The Motherboard combo I mentioned is only 200 dollars.
Did you misread my post? It comes with the CPU. It's socket 939 and comes with a retail Athlon 64. Your combo is 208 and a sempron is no match for the A64 3000+.

If you already have memory that is PC3200, just use it.
 

i1o0i

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Inland MATX Micro-Tower Case with Front USB and Audio Ports and 300-Watt Power Supply- $41

Biostar TForce6100-939 NVIDIA Socket 939 MicroATX Motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 1.80GHz & 512MB DDR PC3200 Bundle- $350

Total- 392+taxes/shipping. Good Price for you. If no, try to rise more money then you can get what you wanted.
 

imported_OrSin

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Very quick chime in here.
First you will never get everyone to agree on anything.
Second listen to everyone, but try to see where they are coming from before making up your own mind.

IMO a cheap case and cheap PSU is fine. I know I will get hell from this community for say this. But look at who is tell you to get what. Most of these guys have $500 video card and $200 motherboards and $500 CPUs. Of course they want to get a good PSU.
And they damn well need it too. You don't. If you gonig to with on board video you are fine. unless you going to get a video card that needs extra power any PSU will work fine.

I have built 200 computer easy. I have had problems with 4 PSU. 2 other cost over $80. 1 was in cheap system and 1 a shuttle PSU. Most of system I build are low cost systems. From what I have seen even the Cheap PSU work fine.

For your build I would worry about your ram more than anything else. On board video needs decent ram. Also it takes away from you system ram. 512 is cutting it close. But you can alway get mroe ram later. And in the end you system will be more then fast enough no matter what you chioce. I don't see a good reason to over clock it at all.
you don't seem to be huge gamer, so I don't see where you CPU will limit you even if you don't over clock.
 
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