Flowmax."There is no doubt Donald Trump incited the insurrection on January 6. It happened largely in public and is recorded for prosperity. Let's review the record:"
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How does that stop Trump from issuing the Self Pardon, and then resigning.
IMO, If he does resign, it's simply to stop Impeachment, because he might fear that he could actually get convicted by the Senate, and then loses Pension, Free Security and other Perks as a former president.
Resigning would be better for him than Impeachment, and in the end that is the only calculation that matters for Trump.
Will the Senate convict?Exactly why he should be impeached whether he resigns or gets 25thed. Trump deserves nothing from the American people beyond this point, except for a jail cell.
Just because the Senate refuses to do their jobs, doesn't mean the House should.Will the Senate convict?
He caused desecration of our temple of democracy. Unforgivable. If this isn't an impeachable offense, then nothing is.What does impeachment really do at this point? Will the Senate go along with it?
I think it's a waste of time. Let him leave with his tail between his legs and let the states have at him.
What does impeachment really do at this point? Will the Senate go along with it?
I think it's a waste of time. Let him leave with his tail between his legs and let the states have at him.
Straight to the point, I like it.Article Released. Vote on Wednesday morning:
READ: The House of Representatives' article of impeachment against Donald Trump | CNN Politics
Democrats in the House of Representatives on Tuesday evening released the final text of their resolution to impeach President Donald Trump, charging him with "incitement of insurrection." The House will vote on the single article of impeachment on Wednesday.www.cnn.com
You don't have to say the words, "I am afraid" for me to recognize your opinions are based on fear.
It is your victimhood mentality that claims you are attacked for only simple disagreement. That is not the case, nor is it honest to claim so.
It is how you handwave away any opposing ideas or thoughts, and present your own OPINIONS, as fact and truth even though they are highly unlikely possible eventualities. It's dishonest.
You're simply an egotistical imbecile who considers his own opinions more valid and/or valuable than any who might disagree.
That's why you can fuck off, clown.
If you are driving a fully loaded truck from point A to point B on a hot summer day where your truck is already over heating, and you
What does impeachment really do at this point? Will the Senate go along with it?
I think it's a waste of time. Let him leave with his tail between his legs and let the states have at him.
Making up bad analogies to pretend this isn't about being intimidated by the Trump Mob.
Also if impeached, he can be banned from holding any office again. Trump never being allowed to ever hold office again, is the most important part of the impeachment outcome.Exactly why he should be impeached whether he resigns or gets 25thed. Trump deserves nothing from the American people beyond this point, except for a jail cell.
Waiting to act most likely means nothing happens and the lesson they will take from storming the capitol if nothing happens is precisely the opposite of what he hopes. They will learn they can do this with impunity.Making up bad analogies to pretend this isn't about being intimidated by the Trump Mob.
So criminals who are tried months later never go to jail, never do time, and/or are never put on death row?Waiting to act most likely means nothing happens and the lesson they will take from storming the capitol if nothing happens is precisely the opposite of what he hopes. They will learn they can do this with impunity.
I bet if we wait a few months it never happens. Criminals that commit crimes without any sanction are emboldened, as are those who witness that.So criminals who are tried months later never go to jail, never do time, and/or are never put on death row?
People said that about the first impeachment, yet it actually happening. The Senate jumped into bed with trump on the first impeachment, but it did happen. The difference here, is the crime is directly against the people and democracy of our nation, specifically the Congress members where the target, and the crime was much more dangerous and sinister. It would have happened if delayed, there is no doubt in my mind about that.I bet if we wait a few months it never happens. Criminals that commit crimes without any sanction are emboldened, as are those who witness that.
People said that about the first impeachment, yet it actually happening. The Senate jumped into bed with trump on the first impeachment, but it did happen. The difference here, is the crime is directly against the people and democracy of our nation, specifically the Congress members where the target, and the crime was much more dangerous and sinister. It would have happened if delayed, there is no doubt in my mind about that.
Uhmm, he was part of the insurrection.Trump didn't change before/during/or after the first impeachment. He won't change after the second impeachment. The only thing that will hold him accountable is him being tried and convicted of treason. His impeachment won't be holding his followers and those that partook in the insurrection accountable at all.
Yes, because Trump was still the president and there was no way to ignore him, unlike now.
This just comes down to a fundamental difference of opinion. I think it is naive and dangerous to let this go and I think that will happen if we wait 3 months. You don’t.
We aren’t willing to take that risk. The idea that Trumpkins will be less angry about impeachment three months from now is likely the opposite of what will happen. It would then be framed as pointless revenge.
There is no way to resolve this but I’m going to stay on the side of caution.
Uhmm, he was part of the insurrection.
It is entirely irrelevant if he changes. You don’t let insurrection go. Ever.
thats kinda why I want it.He caused desecration of our temple of democracy. Unforgivable. If this isn't an impeachable offense, then nothing is.
Yes, he was part of it, he was the instigator. But he wasn't the one actually breaching Congress. You can't just throw him and all his followers into the same pot and call it the same, because it's not, and it won't be taken the same. Two different parts of the insurrection that require two different paths of holding them accountable. No where am I saying let it go. That's the part that irritates me, because everyone instantly equates to suggesting a delay to letting it go. That isn't the case.Yes, because Trump was still the president and there was no way to ignore him, unlike now.
This just comes down to a fundamental difference of opinion. I think it is naive and dangerous to let this go and I think that will happen if we wait 3 months. You don’t.
We aren’t willing to take that risk. The idea that Trumpkins will be less angry about impeachment three months from now is likely the opposite of what will happen. It would then be framed as pointless revenge.
There is no way to resolve this but I’m going to stay on the side of caution.
Uhmm, he was part of the insurrection.
It is entirely irrelevant if he changes. You don’t let insurrection go. Ever.
You broadly can. They are different crimes but they are both crimes.Yes, he was part of it, he was the instigator. But he wasn't the one actually breaching Congress. You can't just throw him and all his followers into the same pot and call it the same, because it's not, and it won't be taken the same. Two different parts of the insurrection that require two different paths of holding them accountable.
Not sure what else to say. I think delay means letting it go. You don’t.No where am I saying let it go. That's the part that irritates me, because everyone instantly equates to suggesting a delay to letting it go. That isn't the case.
Stop projecting your own feelings onto me. If you actually knew me, you would know I don't get intimidated by anyone.