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Dave_5k

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The problem is doing that dumps it on Shumers lap. Shumer becomes majority leader the moment Harris is sworn in. Senate resumes session on the 19th, Shumer becomes Majority Leader on the 20th.
Actually, I don’t think Schumer takes over until the GA senators are both 1) certified by GA, and then 2) sworn in to Senate; plus also no earlier than noon Jan 20th when Kamala becomes VP. Note GA certification may be delayed.

Certification could be as soon as the 15th at the earliest, but may be delayed to 22nd. State can’t certify until all counties complete certification. Fortunately, races ended up outside the 0.5% recount margin.
 

NWRMidnight

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And? That doesn't mean I can't think you're arguing like a moron, for moronic reasons.
I already explained why waiting several months to initiate proceedings would be less-than-ideal.
The fresher these latest events are in specifically senator's minds, the better the chance that the senate will convict on the house's impeachment.

Apologize, lol. Fuck off.
well, in all actuality, you want a conviction based on evidence, not on the "VICTIMS" feelings. Almost Every Congress member is a "VICTIM" right now, and will be basing their judgement based off of feelings not evidence (not that the evidence doesn't support it). A impeachment conviction will mean more if it is done 100 days from now and done based off purely evidence. Yes, even in 100 days, there will be feelings involved, but not as much as now. So keep in mind that Jury in this impeachment are all Victims.
 
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IronWing

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well, in all actuality, you want a conviction based on evidence, not on the "VICTIMS" feelings. Almost Every Congress member is a "VICTIM" right now, and will be basing their judgement based off of feelings not evidence (not that the evidence doesn't support it). A impeachment conviction will mean more if it is done 100 days from now and done based off purely evidence. Yes, even in 100 days, there will be feelings involved, but not as much as now. So keep in mind that Jury in this impeachment are all Victims.
An impeachment doesn't require evidence and can be based on how Congresscritters feel about cucumbers or feel about macaroni in chili. It's a political act and as Trump is a imminent threat to the Republic, it is appropriate to impeach and remove his ass now.
 

ecogen

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well, in all actuality, you want a conviction based on evidence, not on the "VICTIMS" feelings. Almost Every Congress member is a "VICTIM" right now, and will be basing their judgement based off of feelings not evidence (not that the evidence doesn't support it). A impeachment conviction will mean more if it is done 100 days from now and done based off purely evidence. Yes, even in 100 days, there will be feelings involved, but not as much as now. So keep in mind that Jury in this impeachment are all Victims.

Yeah, evidence played a huge part during the first impeachment.
 

NWRMidnight

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An impeachment doesn't require evidence and can be based on how Congresscritters feel about cucumbers or feel about macaroni in chili. It's a political act and as Trump is a imminent threat to the Republic, it is appropriate to impeach and remove his ass now.
Yeah, evidence played a huge part during the first impeachment.

You guys don't get it. IF it's done now and based off "feelings" it will fuel the right wing nuts that are in agreement with Trump, fuel the aggression. and make matters worse. Might as well just kill Trump and make him a martyr, because that is what impeaching him right now will do. That is why it is important to wait and base it off evidence, not feelings. It doesn't matter what took place in the first impeachment, this one is completely different and for different reasons; DOMESTIC TERRORISM ON OUR SOUL BY PRESIDENT TRUMP! We can convict him later, or make him a martyr now by impeaching him now. What do you think will take place if he becomes a martyr, a living one?
 
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NWRMidnight

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You guys are like fucking Charlie Brown with the football, I swear to god.
What the fuck do you mean? and what do you mean by you guys? Look past your own feelings. There is a right way to handle this and a wrong way. There is only one right way that will be beneficial for the country.. one will lead to a war that may last for decades, and it may not be a war that is on the streets.

Funny you cherry picked my response and ignored the rest of it.
 
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ecogen

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What the fuck do you mean? and what do you mean by you guys? Look past your own feelings. There is a right way to handle this and a wrong way. There is only one right way that will be beneficial for the country.. one will lead to a war that may last for decades, and it may not be a war that is on the streets.

Funny you cherry picked my response and ignored the rest of it.

My point is that handling this the "right" way will make 0 difference to what the response will be from the right.
 

NWRMidnight

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My point is that handling this the "right" way will make 0 difference to what the response will be from the right.
right now we have a fire burning.. your solution is to bring in a tanker truck and start spraying gasoline on it. Or you can give it some time to die down and then bring in a tanker of water. Which do you think will work better on the fire?
 
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ecogen

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right now we have a fire burning.. your solution is to bring in a tanker truck and start spraying gasoline on it. Or you can give it some time to die down and then bring in a tanker of water. Which do you think will work better on the fire?

I literally told you that I reject your hypothetical. You'll get the same fire either way.
 

ch33zw1z

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right now we have a fire burning.. your solution is to bring in a tanker truck and start spraying gasoline on it. Or you can give it some time to die down and then bring in a tanker of water. Which do you think will work better on the fire?

I think you're being very optimistic that the metaphorical tanker of water will work. What history has shown us is that R's will likely commandeer the tanker and crash it into a crowd of BLM protestors, them claim it was antifa and never provide evidence, and millions will believe it cuz feels.
 

cytg111

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right now we have a fire burning.. your solution is to bring in a tanker truck and start spraying gasoline on it. Or you can give it some time to die down and then bring in a tanker of water. Which do you think will work better on the fire?

Well, if your enemies shit is burning faster than your own its a viable tactic.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I literally told you that I reject your hypothetical. You'll get the same fire either way.
Nope, one way will burn down the city, the other will burn down a couple buildings.

I think you're being very optimistic that the metaphorical tanker of water will work. What history has shown us is that R's will likely commandeer the tanker and crash it into a crowd of BLM protestors, them claim it was antifa and never provide evidence, and millions will believe it cuz feels.
This has nothing to do with BLM or Antifa. you are trying to muddy the waters and use it as an excuse for them to make the wrong decision.
 
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ch33zw1z

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No you won't.


This has nothing to do with BLM or Antifa. you are trying to muddy the waters.

Umm, where have you been. Those are the current boogie men.

Trumpers are gonna keep fucking shit up, and blame others, regardless of facts. Their enablers will continue to spread lies to distract. That's how it goes.
 

ch33zw1z

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Only to those that believe the lies.. do you believe the lies? Because you are catering to those lies in your justification to impeach now.

Replying again cuz of the edit. No, nobody is catering to those lies. That's you adhering to conservatives behavioral control methods. Those lies will be told regardless of what others do.
 
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NWRMidnight

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The alt facts? Doesn't matter if I do, 10's of millions of other americans do.
But you are the only one referring to it as history and using it to support your position of it not mattering if he is impeached now vs in 100 days. BLM, Antifa is it's own catalyst based off lies, impeaching him now is another catalyst. Yet, you believe you should just throw more gasoline onto the fire because of BLM and Antifa catalyst exists.

Replying again cuz of the edit. No, nobody is catering to those lies. That's you adhering to conservatives behavioral control methods. Those lies will be told regardless of what others do.
See above. By using it in your reasoning, you are bringing the lies to life and allowing them to continue to use them as control methods.... Just adding more fuel to the already volatile situation.
 
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Heartbreaker

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You guys don't get it. IF it's done now and based off "feelings" it will fuel the right wing nuts that are in agreement with Trump, fuel the aggression. and make matters worse.

This reeks of Gun Lobbying apologist strategy.

Psycho murders scores of people with military assault rifle.

"It's too soon, to decide anything, let's wait till things calm down".

Translation. "Lets wait till the window of opportunity to actually do something closes".

The longer you wait, the less chance anything gets done.
 

ch33zw1z

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But you are the only one referring to it as history and using it to support your position of it not mattering if he is impeached now vs in 100 days. BLM, Antifa is it's own catalyst based off lies, impeaching him now is another catalyst. Yet, you believe you should just throw more gasoline onto the fire because of BLM and Antifa catalyst exists.


See above. By using it in your reasoning, you are bringing the lies to life and allowing them to continue to use them as control methods.... Just adding more fuel to the already volatile situation.

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion. My opinion, based on history, is that conservatives, and more specifically magatarians, dgaf about your fire truck and are gonna burn it down anyways.

You got a lot of hope, I'll give ya that, but hope doesnt change people's nature.

edit: Not doing something because you're afraid of people's violent reactions is literally succumbing to terrorism.
 

gothuevos

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If you impeach him 100 days out, the argument will be that it wasn't legal to do it out of office, it was just vengeance, etc. There will always be those vehemently against it. The threat of violence is ALREADY here, and has BEEN here for months.
 

ch33zw1z

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If you impeach him 100 days out, the argument will be that it wasn't legal to do it out of office, it was just vengeance, etc. There will always be those vehemently against it. The threat of violence is ALREADY here, and has BEEN here for months.

Hey, in the words of magatarians for the last 4 years, is it legal? then go fuck yourself.
 
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