In MATH we trust

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
i have a friend who's a doctoral candidate in math. he had an interesting blog entry concerning a similar topic.

check it out here, and let me know what you think

Mathematics and Philosophy

He sounds like a math professor (I majored in mathemetics).

 

[davestar]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: crt1530
You put too much faith in your own intelligence.

There is a reason he is stuck at the level of Mr. Pibb and still hasn't graduated to the fake degree level of Dr. Pepper.

 

[Kev]

3.33-infinity would still not equal 10

not again...

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: davestar

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: crt1530
You put too much faith in your own intelligence.

There is a reason he is stuck at the level of Mr. Pibb and still hasn't graduated to the fake degree level of Dr. Pepper.

Because Mr. Pib + Red Vines = Crazy Delicious!

 

[waggy]

sounds like someone is taking math 150 and intro to philosophy

 

[yh125d]

because it works, you nazi

 

[TuxDave]

3*3.3333..... = 9.9999...... = 10

 

[SVT Cobra]

Ehh I always wonder if our whole math system is flawed because it is not perfect...but I think working on a unified theory in physics first is more important

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Ehh I always wonder if our whole math system is flawed because it is not perfect...but I think working on a unified theory in physics first is more important

Math is perfect. Imperfection enters the scene when physicists and engineers use math to model infinitely variable systems (i.e. the world, the universe).

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Ehh I always wonder if our whole math system is flawed because it is not perfect...but I think working on a unified theory in physics first is more important

Math is perfect. Imperfection enters the scene when physicists and engineers use math to model infinitely variable systems (i.e. the world, the universe).

If math was perfect then it would be able to be used for engineering and physics.

 

[txrandom]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Ehh I always wonder if our whole math system is flawed because it is not perfect...but I think working on a unified theory in physics first is more important

Math is perfect. Imperfection enters the scene when physicists and engineers use math to model infinitely variable systems (i.e. the world, the universe).

1/0 is perfect?

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Ehh I always wonder if our whole math system is flawed because it is not perfect...but I think working on a unified theory in physics first is more important

Math is perfect. Imperfection enters the scene when physicists and engineers use math to model infinitely variable systems (i.e. the world, the universe).

1/0 is perfect?

Finite Difference for the win!

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Ehh I always wonder if our whole math system is flawed because it is not perfect...but I think working on a unified theory in physics first is more important

Math is perfect. Imperfection enters the scene when physicists and engineers use math to model infinitely variable systems (i.e. the world, the universe).

If math was perfect then it would be able to be used for engineering and physics.

If by perfect you mean complete and all encompassing, then our definitions of "perfect" are different. How do you believe that "our whole math system is flawed?"

 

[Mr Pepper]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
i have a friend who's a doctoral candidate in math. he had an interesting blog entry concerning a similar topic.

check it out here, and let me know what you think

Mathematics and Philosophy

He sounds like a math professor (I majored in mathemetics).

Thanks,

That was a great read! I love when someone "thinks outside the box". It reminded me of what would separate a human from a robot, given the same tools to work with. Good stuff.

Also,

Thanks to all the other warm and friendly responses. I will remember to keep my thoughts to myself in the future. Apologies to all, for my poor attempt to offer some new food for thought outside of the whole "fvck! I have to move for work" type commentary.

Your social conditioning has made it's point and I will refrain from upsetting the delicate ATOT balance with my input in the future.

:beer:

 

[her209]

There are 10 types of people in this world. Those understand binary and those who don't.

 

[her209]

Mayans counted in base 20

:shocked:

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Mr Pepper

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
i have a friend who's a doctoral candidate in math. he had an interesting blog entry concerning a similar topic.

check it out here, and let me know what you think

Mathematics and Philosophy

He sounds like a math professor (I majored in mathemetics).

Thanks,

That was a great read! I love when someone "thinks outside the box". It reminded me of what would separate a human from a robot, given the same tools to work with. Good stuff.

Also,

Thanks to all the other warm and friendly responses. I will remember to keep my thoughts to myself in the future. Apologies to all, for my poor attempt to offer some new food for thought outside of the whole "fvck! I have to move for work" type commentary.

Your social conditioning has made it's point and I will refrain from upsetting the delicate ATOT balance with my input in the future.

:beer:

Oh, boo hoo. Look, you attempted to appear intelligent about a topic on which you are obviously quite clueless about and got called out for doing so. Be honest about it instead of spinning this as "the stupid masses can't grasp the level of debate I let them glimpse!"

The true mark of a serious intellectual, theological or scientific discussion topic being posted in OT is to get exactly 10 replies or less, not to be laughed at. You, sir, failed the test.

 

[Kirby]

I've heard of something that if you convert 2 into a power series and add 2 in a power series you don't get 4.

I have no idea, so don't quote me on this.

 

[Jeff7]

Math isn't really a human construct. It's the way the Universe works. We're just writing down our observations. 2 + 2 = 4. That's just the way the Universe is. Two of one thing, and two of another thing, now you have four things. We just gave names to those concepts.

Look at a rose. It reflects a lot of light around the 650nm range. Does your looking at it make it red? No. It would continue to reflect those wavelengths whether or not you were there. You just gave that color a name.

Originally posted by: her209
Mayans counted in base 20

:shocked:

Babylonians counted in Base 60. 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour? Hmm....

 

[illusion88]

1 = 0.99999999999....

 

[Mr Pepper]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Mr Pepper

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
i have a friend who's a doctoral candidate in math. he had an interesting blog entry concerning a similar topic.

check it out here, and let me know what you think

Mathematics and Philosophy

He sounds like a math professor (I majored in mathemetics).

Thanks,

That was a great read! I love when someone "thinks outside the box". It reminded me of what would separate a human from a robot, given the same tools to work with. Good stuff.

Also,

Thanks to all the other warm and friendly responses. I will remember to keep my thoughts to myself in the future. Apologies to all, for my poor attempt to offer some new food for thought outside of the whole "fvck! I have to move for work" type commentary.

Your social conditioning has made it's point and I will refrain from upsetting the delicate ATOT balance with my input in the future.

:beer:

Oh, boo hoo. Look, you attempted to appear intelligent about a topic on which you are obviously quite clueless about and got called out for doing so. Be honest about it instead of spinning this as "the stupid masses can't grasp the level of debate I let them glimpse!"

The true mark of a serious intellectual, theological or scientific discussion topic being posted in OT is to get exactly 10 replies or less, not to be laughed at. You, sir, failed the test.

Alright,

I'll bite. And hopefully in a more "civilized manner" than you have chosen to show me. Also, forgive my ignorance about the 10 post rule. Who could have known?

So far, I have heard a lot of replies to the topic, which is what I was after. Thanks to all that thought about the question.. and then responded. This is what we Idahoans, call a conversation. It's the latest craze.

So what's your answer by the way? Either way, I'm grateful for your consideration and guidance.

 

[ForumMaster]

Originally posted by: Leros
1) it seems to be working so far

2) got a better suggestion?

/thread.

math is the one thing that has let man make sense of the chaos of the universe that we first observed. is it perfect? nope. far from it. new fields are proving this all the time. but thus far it has explained almost everything.

so unless you have got a better solution that works better then math, why even bother posting this?

 

[Mr Pepper]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster

Originally posted by: Leros
1) it seems to be working so far

2) got a better suggestion?

/thread.

math is the one thing that has let man make sense of the chaos of the universe that we first observed. is it perfect? nope. far from it. new fields are proving this all the time. but thus far it has explained almost everything.

so unless you have got a better solution that works better then math, why even bother posting this?

Thanks,
I can defiantly understand & respect your opinion.

I was just "thinking out loud", so to speak. I thought it would be an interesting concept for discussion. I certainly don't have the mysteries of the universe figured out, but I think it's good to "keep looking".

 

[piasabird]

Math is the basis for all intelligence; even your computer.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
The problem with alowing a logical construct (math) to become a religion/way of life is that the world is not a logical place and interpreting the world through a strictly logical viewpoint will only doom us to disappointment at best and war at worst.

See now this is interesting...