Incomprehensible mass shooting happens again

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If the police are afraid of semi automatic weapons, those weapons should be banned. Period. But of course that won't happen. The gun lobby (of which the police community is likely a member) won't let that happen. They don't want to feel emaciated with only pistols during off-duty hours.
 

fskimospy

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A group of trained police officers do outgun a child with a semi-auto long rifle. The fact that no police were hit tells me they didn't try to engage.
Right and also indoors some of a rifle’s advantages over pistols are mitigated. Superior accuracy matters less when your target is ten feet away, rifles can be harder to maneuver indoors, they require two hands, etc.
 
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A lethal robocop in every school might be what's needed. Retired military personnel could volunteer. It all depends how far people want to go to protect the life of a child.
 

SteveGrabowski

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It's ridiculous that they'll tear down the school but won't tear down the coward police force that's actually responsible for the massacre being as bad as it was. I don't know how these little bitches in the UPD sleep at night. If I listened to little kids I could have saved being murdered and did nothing I'd probably end up swallowing my service pistol.
 

Homerboy

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I know I'm not saying anything new here, but as more and more details come out about what transpired that day, fuck all those cops that were there "responding" to the event. What useless, wastes of humans. I hope they get whatever is coming to them - but sadly it will pale in comparison to what all those mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters are feeling for the rest of their lives. Every day this thing just makes me more and more angry.
 

brycejones

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I know I'm not saying anything new here, but as more and more details come out about what transpired that day, fuck all those cops that were there "responding" to the event. What useless, wastes of humans. I hope they get whatever is coming to them - but sadly it will pale in comparison to what all those mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters are feeling for the rest of their lives. Every day this thing just makes me more and more angry.
That is all infuriating, but as more of the focus is placed on the failure of the response we ignore the larger issue. There are too many guns in this country.
 
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Not enough people care about the life of a child to do what is really needed to protect them...which is get rid of guns.
Problem is the people who want to protect their homes with guns. How did everyone get to be so paranoid and unsafe? Maybe implement strict security posts in residential communities and ban guns inside them to take that argument away.
 

brycejones

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Problem is the people who want to protect their homes with guns. How did everyone get to be so paranoid and unsafe? Maybe implement strict security posts in residential communities and ban guns inside them to take that argument away.
It's simple really, people have been told for decades that crime is out of control and they should be afraid. This is despite the overall crime rate falling for decades. Fear sells guns.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Problem is the people who want to protect their homes with guns. How did everyone get to be so paranoid and unsafe? Maybe implement strict security posts in residential communities and ban guns inside them to take that argument away.
Because the government is clearly incapable of doing it.
 

nOOky

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I was under the impression that police departments and their swat units were a lot more heavily armed than just pistols? In fact it has been many years since complaints have been made that police forces were getting too militarized trying to keep up to the criminals. Your telling me a police department, in Texas, can't even challenge one teenager with an AR?

Hell even the cops in our small town of 1,400 carry shotguns and AR's in the trunk for such situations.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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I was under the impression that police departments and their swat units were a lot more heavily armed than just pistols? In fact it has been many years since complaints have been made that police forces were getting too militarized trying to keep up to the criminals. Your telling me a police department, in Texas, can't even challenge one teenager with an AR?

Hell even the cops in our small town of 1,400 carry shotguns and AR's in the trunk for such situations.

 
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I was under the impression that police departments and their swat units were a lot more heavily armed than just pistols? In fact it has been many years since complaints have been made that police forces were getting too militarized trying to keep up to the criminals. Your telling me a police department, in Texas, can't even challenge one teenager with an AR?

Hell even the cops in our small town of 1,400 carry shotguns and AR's in the trunk for such situations.

A pistol is plenty good to take on an AR-15, especially indoors. The only thing an AR-15 has over a semi-auto pistol is range. Which wasnt a factor. no excuse to be scared of an AR-15. And if they were, then they should want to ban them.
 
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