WOW! Man the fuck up if you are going to call someone a moron, quote me.. And then dispute what I said with something other than "the majority of the friends I had at 18" blah blah blah.. They had access to guns at 18.. why didn't your friends shoot themselves or people if it's about age limit of guns, growing up, maturity? They had access to guns.The vast majority of guys I was friends with at 18 that were very immature were all in much better head spaces at 25. It's a simple fact. Of course we were all middle class so that helped give us a softer landing spot. But a ton of it was getting that bit more mature. You can probably talk to Amy psychologist work a shit and they'll verify.
This guy is just a moron.
Those are going to be more socio economic issues and relationship conflict, not psychopathic meltdowns. Can't stop all shootings. Good place to start is by age.WOW! Man the fuck up if you are going to call someone a moron, quote me.. And then dispute what Isaid with something other than "the majority of the friends I had at 18" blah blah blah.. They had access to guns at 18.. why didn't they shoot themselves or people if it's about age limit of guns, growing up, maturity? They had access to guns.
Explain why most gun deaths and gun violence happens from age 24 to 35 if it's about age, growing up, maturity. Why doesn't it go down till after the age 35?
Number of firearm deaths, by age U.S. 2019| Statista
In 2019, 12 children younger than one year died due to firearms in the United States.www.statista.com
HUH? So, under 25 those issues are not present? Wouldn't maturity better equip you to handle those issues over the age 25, or does maturity only apply to guns?Those are going to be more socio economic issues and relationship conflict, not psychopathic meltdowns. Can't stop all shootings. Good place to start is by age.
Dude. It's science. Brains don't mature until 25, which includes controlling impulsivity betterHUH? So, under 25 those issues are not present? Wouldn't maturity better equip you to handle those issues over the age 25, or does maturity only apply to guns?
As raising the drinking age has shown us.. raising the age to purchase guns will only delay the problem.
Are we back to that bs excuse/argument again? if that is the reason, why do the numbers not go down from ages 24, thru 35 but go up? Why is 33 the average age of mass shooters? As I said before, if that was the reason, we would be having chaos in schools all the way thru collage, not just a gun crisis that is taking place across this country thru all ages. We learn morality, right from wrong by our early teen years..Dude. It's science. Brains don't mature until 25, which includes controlling impulsivity better
The age your brain matures at everything — it isn't even fully developed until age 25
Neuroscientists are confirming what car rental places already knew — the brain doesn't fully mature until age 25.www.businessinsider.com
Men Mature After Women — 11 Years After, To Be Exact — A British Study Reveals
Men’s brains mature at age 43, compared to age 32 for women, but there could be perks to differing maturity levels among heterosexual couples.www.medicaldaily.com
If you want to deny science, keep on keeping on. Literally a million sources back this up.
Just admit you are wrong
Are we back to that bs excuse/argument again? if that is the reason, why do the numbers not go down from ages 24, thru 35 but go up? Why is 33 the average age of mass shooters? As I said before, if that was the reason, we would be having chaos in schools all the way thru collage, not just a gun crisis that is taking place across this country thru all ages. We learn morality, right from wrong by our early teen years..
Why is the US the leader in school shootings around the world? Why doesn't Switzerland for example, have the same problem, they can buy guns at 18? Is the rest of the world immune to the brain maturity theory when it comes to guns and school shootings?
Don't misunderstand me, I am not disputing that our brains don't mature till 25, I am not denying Science, but I am denying that the gun problem is linked to brain maturity.. there is no proof of that. Other countries prove that is not the case.. If you want to get down to it, our brains are never fully mature, as they are always changing, constantly developing, making new connections, etc thru out our lives. It's a muscle per say that has to always be exercised.. And just like any muscle, it will only adapt to what it's trained to do.
So no, there is no proof that I am wrong.. There is only unproven theories.
I just extracted this from a link about schizophrenia.A LOT of mental health issues manifest in that 16-25 year age, so the full of shit gun nutters that just scream "mental health" while tacitly doing less than nothing (often actively work against anything and everything even) about mental health, seems like perhaps something to consider.
I think most people know someone that went through very destructive (often self) phase of life during that time.
Switzerland is a poor example. Their guns are regulated quite strictly.
The very same thing happened when they raised the drinking age to 21.. People believed that it would prevent alcohol related traffic deaths. It didn't, it only delayed them. The very same thing will happen if the legal age to buy a gun is raised to 25. The only difference with guns, is it's not about experience, but the mentality that is built up around guns, and the ability to access them at any age, especially assault weapons, in this country.
I think a not terrible idea would be single shot (breach action, single load bolt action, muzzle load) at 18, revolvers, multi load bolt action, lever action, pump action at 21, semi auto pistol/long gun at 25. Mind you this is just for age grouping, disregards any additional work to be done.Switzerland is a poor example. Their guns are regulated quite strictly.
We can just agree to disagree, I don't think kids with an undeveloped brain that can't temper impulsivity should be able to buy semi automatic weapons until at least 21, if not a bit longer. I fail to see how this is bad policy. It will definitely reduce gun violence. I still think guns should be more regulated overall for everyone, but you just can't ban them altogether, so raising the age is just smart. But there is nothing wrong with strongly reducing gun violence of the younger crowd either while hopefully someone in this country has the balls to regulate guns better overall. Should we tackle none of the problem because we'll still have a big problem?
HUH? Switzerland is a poor example because their guns are regulated quite strictly you say? The one restriction that you say we need here in the US because of brain development, is not one of them. Their legal age to purchase a gun is 18 years old. Any restrictions they have in place, apply to EVERYONE. If it's really connected to brain development, then why do they not restrict the legal purchasing age to 25, or have the problems we do with ages 18 to 25? for that matter, why do they not have the problems we do from ages 24 to 35, and the age groups after?Switzerland is a poor example. Their guns are regulated quite strictly.
We can just agree to disagree, I don't think kids with an undeveloped brain that can't temper impulsivity should be able to buy semi automatic weapons until at least 21, if not a bit longer. I fail to see how this is bad policy. It will definitely reduce gun violence. I still think guns should be more regulated overall for everyone, but you just can't ban them altogether, so raising the age is just smart. But there is nothing wrong with strongly reducing gun violence of the younger crowd either while hopefully someone in this country has the balls to regulate guns better overall. Should we tackle none of the problem because we'll still have a big problem?
Speculation on my part? The whole blaming brain development for the cause of gun violence in 18 to 25 year old is all speculation, as there is no evidence that shows that gun deaths are linked to brain development in 18 to 25 year old. If it was, why do the numbers go up after the age 25 for gun deaths?Speculation on your part, and not borne out by science at that.
Regardless of the topic being alcohol or firearms, the fact is the human brain is not finished developing until the age of 25. We take mental fitness and maturity into account with other safety measures, it's time to apply it to semi auto battle rifles.
Do you have any data that shows alcohol related deaths among 18 year olds as being no different than among 25 year olds? There might puddin there.
For sure. Like when does mental health come into issue, when there is a troubled family. But do Americans only think this is a US only thing? Plenty of shitty parents world wide.the kids shooting in schools haven’t even realized how screwed huge portions of society are as adults. It’s more likely the 18 year olds are influenced by shitty people around them and acting out in a very American way, blaming others and destroying things / lives to make others aware of their pain.
For sure. Like when does mental health come into issue, when there is a troubled family. But do Americans only think this is a US only thing? Plenty of shitty parents world wide.
If I'm not mistaken in Switzerland there used to be (and may well still be) a law to the effect that every home was actually required to have a gun.
What people often fail to add is that every healthy adult citizen in Switzerland is also required to (albeit often briefly) serve in the military where they receive mandatory weapons-training and are issued a rifle.
The Swiss culture is also far different then it is here in 'murica.
Switzerland also has a much lower number of 'guns per person' than the US (about a quarter as many). And still has the highest rates of gun deaths in Europe (gun murder rate five times as high as the UK).
Swiss gun ownership really does seem to be for the purposes of a "well regulated militia", insofar as the logic of it seems to be for defending the country against foreign invasion, rather than against it's own government or "criminals".
The brain continues to develop past 25, but the changes are not as dramatic. Once you start throwing kids in the mix, emotions skyrocket. Wife is leaving and taking the kids? Might as well blow everyone away because "I can't imagine life without them." That's just one possible reason the numbers go up for the prime breeding age bracket.Are we back to that bs excuse/argument again? if that is the reason, why do the numbers not go down from ages 24, thru 35 but go up? Why is 33 the average age of mass shooters? As I said before, if that was the reason, we would be having chaos in schools all the way thru collage, not just a gun crisis that is taking place across this country thru all ages.
Morality is complex. Heat of the moment property damage seems like a victimless crime when your brain can't think through ALL of the consequences for the property owner. At a younger age, it's like "they can just replace it, no big deal." Then it happens to you and you realize the psychological trauma that can come from such incidents that go way beyond the cost to replace.We learn morality, right from wrong by our early teen years..
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I mean, we already knew that to be the case (caring more about power than constituents), but it's fun to hear it announced so matter-of-factly.senator kevin cramer wants children murdered in school
And millions of American's nod in agreement. Shameful.I mean, we already knew that to be the case (caring more about power than constituents), but it's fun to hear it announced so matter-of-factly.