Indian Girl's One Rupee Suicide

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: whitecloak
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Capitalism at its best.
India is not a capitalist country. You should know that.
It has a mixed economy but is now slowly tilting towards a capitalist one.
No, India is a class (caste) socialism, the worst of all economies (from a social welfare standpoint), but is slowly enlightening itself towards capitalism. As it does so, and if it chooses to finally rid itself of its evil caste system, its economy will grow and eventually it will have enough food that there will be an obesity concern.

Had this incident occurred in America, the mother would be on trial for child abuse (regardless of her poverty), and everyone here would be cheering for her conviction.

Listen dude I'm pretty polite with you, but look here. Fvck off. You don't know anything about India. Since 1990 wide-ranging capitalist reforms have been put into action. This has spurred the economy but has also led to a growing gap between the rich and the poor as is always associated with Capitalism. Also it isn't pure Capitalist reforms that are driving the Indian economy. Nehru's Socialist program to educate Indian youth has led to a huge base of educated professionals which has led to the current situation in the IT field.

And about the caste system... you are VERY IGNORANT Vic.

There are many Dalits (the lowest of the low) now in the Indian government. Much more a percentage than the minorities in the American Congress and Senate. The Prime Minister of India is Sikh and one of the highest officials is Italian.
very true...there is a growing gap between the rich and poor and its getting bigger because of the unfair distribution of the revenues between urban and rural india.

and there is growing gap because the rich are getting richer very fast...have you been up to date with teh economics of that region...

also affermative action to favor the lower classes is much bigger in india than here in the us. there are quite a few colleges which reserve about 50% of their seats for the lower classes...and as for participation in teh governement, india has always had a varied and diverse government with women and many minorities holding key positions.
I'm curious about this phenomenon of the growing gap that is getting smaller. When one considers that India for thousands of years was the country of fantastically wealthy maharaja and wretchedly impoverished untouchables, all established by rigidly-enforced castes, and that democracy and capitalism is demonstratably (by your own words) what is bringing India out of that, I find the statements from both of you contradictory to say the least.

i dont know if you're being a smart ass or you just dont get it...its not the maharajas and the mughal princes that run companies like infosys and tata. infact those royal families were pretty much liquidated during the british occupation(well not entirely true...some were kept around as puppets for the british). The rich now are the professionals residing in the urban centers with a huge opportunites and the poor are generally farmers and others in rural india who have to deal with no running water and a much lower std of living...infact this is prolly the 3rd time i'm saying this...

and what you dont seem to understand is that these two differences ocured for different reasons...wiht the original being due to the caste system and the present one due to horrible politics
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
i dont know if you're being a smart ass or you just dont get it...its not the maharajas and the mughal princes that run companies like infosys and tata. infact those royal families were pretty much liquidated during the british occupation(well not entirely true...some were kept around as puppets for the british). The rich now are the professionals residing in the urban centers with a huge opportunites and the poor are generally farmers and others in rural india who have to deal with no running water and a much lower std of living...infact this is prolly the 3rd time i'm saying this...
So... was Rome built in a day? I'm not being a smartass. You're just being one of those people who confuse the cure as the disease simply because the cure doesn't work fast enough for you.
Think 1920's America. Modern wealth and prosperity was finally hitting the urban centers in a big way for the first time while the rural farmers lived in poverty and still didn't have electricity or running water. That all changed a decade later. So it will with India, despite its problems. Jeez... barely 3 generations out of the caste system and less than a generation into a semi-capitalistic mixed-economy and you expect perfection already? The proof of success is in the improvements that have already happened, not in those that have not happened yet. Your "growing gap" is not because some have been held (or gone) down, but simply because they have not caught up yet to those who have already gone up. In other words, the "growing gap" is proof of success, not failure.
 
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