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5to1baby1in5

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At what point do they file charges against Kushner?

Senate: Provide us with all relevant documents that had to do with Mr. Kushner’s calls, contacts or meetings with Russians during the campaign and transition

Kushner: Here they are.

Senate: Give us the rest of them (ones that they seem to have already identified from other sources).

Kushner: ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
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At what point do they file charges against Kushner?

Senate: Provide us with all relevant documents that had to do with Mr. Kushner’s calls, contacts or meetings with Russians during the campaign and transition

Kushner: Here they are.

Senate: Give us the rest of them (ones that they seem to have already identified from other sources).

Kushner: ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
Just another one of those... sorry several in this case... of those oops forgot about this Russian contact incidents EVERYBODY involved in this seems to be prone to.

I'd be curious to see a running list of forgotten/omitted/ lied about contacts from everyone in this campaign/admin.
 
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Just another one of those... sorry several in this case... of those oops forgot about this Russian contact incidents EVERYBODY involved in this seems to be prone to.

I'd be curious to see a running list of forgotten/omitted/ lied about contacts from everyone in this campaign/admin.

At minimum, it seems like Alzheimmer's might be rampant within the group. Although I have a hunch its more pathological lying, likely caused by mental disorders.
 

alien42

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lots of interesting news today regarding Mueller..

"A Turkish-Iranian businessman may now be cooperating with investigators looking into Michael Flynn"

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/16/a-t...-be-cooperating-with-flynn-investigation.html

a couple interesting points...

Reza Zarrab is in federal custody but was released from prison a week ago, which indicates he is now a co-operating witness.

his office was in trump tower and Rudy Giuliani is one of this attorneys.

Preet Bharara, who trump unexpectedly fired, brought the initial charges against Zarrab.
 
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At what point do they file charges against Kushner?

Senate: Provide us with all relevant documents that had to do with Mr. Kushner’s calls, contacts or meetings with Russians during the campaign and transition

Kushner: Here they are.

Senate: Give us the rest of them (ones that they seem to have already identified from other sources).

Kushner: ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

I think they're going to take their time, just to make sure to follow procedure and provide overwhelming evidence and explanation for their actions so as to prevent any attempt to claim bias or impartiality.
 

vi edit

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The drip drip drip over the weekend has been quite steady. Some shit is going down soon.
 

Commodus

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To clarify what's going on: the Mueller team is now directly investigating Trump's attempt to obstruct justice by firing Comey. In other words, he's investigating the President's own actions, not just those of his associates.

I so want to see how the Trump lackeys on this forum react if Mueller gets to the point where he indicts Trump or key cabinet members. You think they irrationally defend Trump now? They'll be frothing at the mouth if Divine Leader Trump is facing the prison time he deserves.
 
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To clarify what's going on: the Mueller team is now directly investigating Trump's attempt to obstruct justice by firing Comey. In other words, he's investigating the President's own actions, not just those of his associates.

I so want to see how the Trump lackeys on this forum react if Mueller gets to the point where he indicts Trump or key cabinet members. You think they irrationally defend Trump now? They'll be frothing at the mouth if Divine Leader Trump is facing the prison time he deserves.

Being completely serious there aren't that many die hard Trump supports today. There are many who say he is better than Hillary. Even the early Russia deniers aren't sticking to their original thoughts and that is good its perfectly fine to evaluate a position you once had and change your mind.

I just want a decent investigation, I want it to mostly focus on Russia. I do not want to see a day come where Politicians bend over backwards to appease Russia so they don't get trolled or even worse Politicians pick sides. One sides with Russia the others side with China.
 

Commodus

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Being completely serious there aren't that many die hard Trump supports today. There are many who say he is better than Hillary. Even the early Russia deniers aren't sticking to their original thoughts and that is good its perfectly fine to evaluate a position you once had and change your mind.

I just want a decent investigation, I want it to mostly focus on Russia. I do not want to see a day come where Politicians bend over backwards to appease Russia so they don't get trolled or even worse Politicians pick sides. One sides with Russia the others side with China.

You're right, it's just that any significant number of Trump apologists is too many, and those that are holding on are increasingly desperate in their denials. See the forum posters here who are still obsessing over Clinton (because Fox told them to) and act as if the Uranium One non-scandal will somehow cancel out the Russia investigation. Like Mueller will just stop investigating Trump's behavior and everyone will forget all the terrible decisions (or lack of decisions) Trump has made.
 

trenchfoot

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So having exposed themselves for the sock puppets of the very wealthy that they are with their big tax cut ploy the Repubs tired to pull with gutting Obamacare, they're now trying to do it again with "Tax Reform" and have the nerve to go after Obamacare again to get it done.

I personally don't see how the Repubs could be any more blatant than the way they're behaving now in their efforts to stick to the blue collar working class folks in order to tip the economic scale ever further towards the wealthy, but I do wonder how much more obvious the Repubs in DC have to be in this regard before their own constituents have had enough of this bullshit that's being crapped on them. Up to their necks? Over their heads? Six feet under?
 

sactoking

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I just saw that a pardon was issued for a "turkey." Does anyone know which turkey was pardoned? My money is on Erik. Will pardoning turkeys involved with alleged misdeeds spur a crisis?
 

dank69

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So having exposed themselves for the sock puppets of the very wealthy that they are with their big tax cut ploy the Repubs tired to pull with gutting Obamacare, they're now trying to do it again with "Tax Reform" and have the nerve to go after Obamacare again to get it done.

I personally don't see how the Repubs could be any more blatant than the way they're behaving now in their efforts to stick to the blue collar working class folks in order to tip the economic scale ever further towards the wealthy, but I do wonder how much more obvious the Repubs in DC have to be in this regard before their own constituents have had enough of this bullshit that's being crapped on them. Up to their necks? Over their heads? Six feet under?
Six feet under they will ask for a seventh.
 
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Well... someone is definitely cooperating...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/23/us/politics/flynn-mueller-russia-trump.html

WASHINGTON — Lawyers for Michael T. Flynn, President Trump’s former national security adviser, notified the president’s legal team in recent days that they could no longer discuss the special counsel’s investigation, according to four people involved in the case, an indication that Mr. Flynn is cooperating with prosecutors or negotiating such a deal.

Mr. Flynn’s lawyers had been sharing information with Mr. Trump’s lawyers about the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, who is examining whether anyone around Mr. Trump was involved in Russian efforts to undermine Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.
 

Younigue

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Can't help but think that Trump is fuming right now at the realization that his 'ally' is being turned against him, and that he's losing a source of information about the investigation.

Slowly but surely, Mueller and crew are closing in on the big prize...
Fuming sure but that crew takes a lot of pride in not being loyal if the price is right... Say... a lesser sentence, leniency for a son? They all understand that mentality at least until it's their own ass being lunched upon... Then and only then is there a call for loyalty and true allies. It's funny that they do seem to overlook that when a person seems like an ally in their worlds that it's not true loyalty but rather their own personal gain making their decisions, all the better of it can be construed as alliance. I deeply hope Mueller is making life really uncomfortable for all of them and offering the very minimum in personal gain from their very bleak futures.
 
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