You mean I can't express my opinion without you wanting me to leave?
Your ilk is precisely what has become wrong with this forum. 'Feel free to express your opinion, so long as it aligns with the majority in here. If not, leave, mofo.'
Congrats on proving my point so well. /thumbsup
Edit: btw, I probably despise Trump more than you do. But pointing at a douche while being a douche does people little service.
Lots of nervous tweeting this morning from the deflector in chief. Wonder what the big deal is?
Interesting in that it's barely that.Along with Trump, his adherents, and a large percentage of the lefties in here.
Man, P&N has become so unhinged it isn't even funny any more. The morons that now infest this place are as scary, or even scarier, than Trump, only on the opposite end of the spectrum. The scary part is, like Trump, they don't even seem to realize it.
This sub-forum has gone to complete shite.
Along with Trump, his adherents, and a large percentage of the lefties in here.
Man, P&N has become so unhinged it isn't even funny any more. The morons that now infest this place are as scary, or even scarier, than Trump, only on the opposite end of the spectrum. The scary part is, like Trump, they don't even seem to realize it.
This sub-forum has gone to complete shite.
abundance of corroborating materials from reputable sources.
Must be the same abundance and reasonable sources that told you "indictments are coming."
So you had nothing of value to add. Got it.Must be the same abundance and reasonable sources that told you "indictments are coming."
Now that it's over, could you relate what she 'delivered' for us plebes?Sally Yates is delivering right now, you should watch.
You realize the clearances Flynn had through the Obama admin pale in comparison to what should have been done before he was appointed NSA right? And that they didn't fire him when they found out but waited almost three weeks until the story was leaked? Even then they Blamed It on the left as some kind of liberal witch hunt by the media? That he participated in several sensitive briefings and meetings before he was fired and after Yates informed them? That they lied about what they were told by Yates? It wasn't a casual heads up it was the strictest concern that he was severely exposed?Now that it's over, could you relate what she 'delivered' for us plebes?
While we're waiting, I'll point out that Flynn received his clearances most recently from the 0bama administration and when it was found out by the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his interactions with Russian officials he was fired. Which is exactly what should have been done.
I'll contribute that Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
While we're waiting, I'll point out that Flynn received his clearances most recently from the 0bama administration and when it was found out by the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his interactions with Russian officials he was fired. Which is exactly what should have been done.
Now that it's over, could you relate what she 'delivered' for us plebes?
While we're waiting, I'll point out that Flynn received his clearances most recently from the 0bama administration and when it was found out by the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his interactions with Russian officials he was fired. Which is exactly what should have been done.
I'll contribute that Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
You realize the clearances Flynn had through the Obama admin pale in comparison to what should have been done before he was appointed NSA right? And that they didn't fire him when they found out but waited almost three weeks until the story was leaked? Even then they Blamed It on the left as some kind of liberal witch hunt by the media? That he participated in several sensitive briefings and meetings before he was fired and after Yates informed them? That they lied about what they were told by Yates? It wasn't a casual heads up it was the strictest concern that he was severely exposed?
Ya just hear things how you want to hear them eh? Tell me, have you ever received a genuine compliment in your life? If so please share so that I might laugh at the real intent of the words and how you perceived them. Come on, play along it'll be fun!Now that it's over, could you relate what she 'delivered' for us plebes?
While we're waiting, I'll point out that Flynn received his clearances most recently from the 0bama administration and when it was found out by the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his interactions with Russian officials he was fired. Which is exactly what should have been done.
I'll contribute that Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
Now that it's over, could you relate what she 'delivered' for us plebes?
While we're waiting, I'll point out that Flynn received his clearances most recently from the 0bama administration and when it was found out by the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his interactions with Russian officials he was fired. Which is exactly what should have been done.
I'll contribute that Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
I don't defend conservatives. I berate liberals. I am conservative in very few ways. I'm a liberal in many, many ways, and was liberal long before most of the college boys and millennials that infest this place from top to bottom.It's been awhile, huh?
First off, I think it's a mistake to accept qliveur's assessment of anybody's sanity.
It's also a mistake to think that some of the opinions here are scarier than Trump simply because they have no power & likely never will. Trump, otoh, wields enormous power.
It's interesting to note how you've defended most things conservative for years, even as your compatriots have charged further right the whole while. Where did you think they were headed other than Trumpistan?
Why Conservatives Are Still Crazy After All These Years | Rolling Stone
Must be the same abundance and reasonable sources that told you "indictments are coming."
I don't defend conservatives. I berate liberals. I am conservative in very few ways. I'm a liberal in many, many ways, and was liberal long before most of the college boys and millennials that infest this place from top to bottom.
The problem here is that the lefties in the forum can't take any sort of criticism because they are so cock-sure and absolutely self-righteous. They are the mirror image of their perceived enemies yet don't realize it. I despise what the left has become. As such I will continue to berate them as I see fit because they deserve it. Will it change anything? Of course not. The self-righteous have no desire to change because they perceive no need to do so. So post on, Jhhnn. No doubt you see no need to change anything.
Speak out? lol. Yeah, you guys are such outspoken rebels. Trump is a douche, a moron, an idiot? You don't say? What other gems of undiscovered knowledge do you have to present? Are there any barn doors you haven't taken aim at yet?All you're doing is berating those that speak out instead of discussing the merit of that being spoke of...
Must be rough white knighting the indefensible.....
TO START, THE FACTS
IN 2013, the FBI and other agencies discovered the presence of three Russian spies working to recruit Carter Page, a former Gazprom employee and advisor. While the success of that effort is unclear, Page has affirmed he is “US Person 1.”
IN AUGUST 2015, surrounded by a cloud of rancor, Roger Stone left the trump campaign after only a couple of months. Stone, later admitting contact with the primary hacker in the election scandal, had been a personal friend of trump’s going back three decades. Stone is also a lobbying partner of Paul Manafort, marking an early connection to Manafort, long before his official employment by the campaign.
IN DECEMBER 2015, Page travelled to Russia, and again in 2016, slamming US foreign policy, sanctions, and praising Russia’s energy potential. During the winter, Britain’s GHCQ and other foreign agencies in Australia, Estonia, Poland and Germany began intercepting communications that involved trump’s name and the coming election. They forwarded this information to the US authorities. Page’s speech in July 2016 was noteworthy because the FBI already had him on their radar from 2013 and this new intel, and he was the subject of a FISA warrant based on credible suspicions and intercepts, combined with his history. Incidentally, Page also seemed to know the name of Rex Tillerson as an option for Secretary of State, many months before America did, and presumably trump himself. Tillerson had just entered retirement after a long, successful career at Exxon. He had spent years advocating for the repeal of sanctions on Russia which killed a $500 billion oil field they’d been working on with Russian oil company, Rosneft, and previously served as board director for a Russian/Exxon oil company based in the Bahamas. Page praised Tillerson’s unique status of “Official Order of Friendship,” the highest Russian honor a foreign citizen can receive from the president.
IN MARCH 2016, Moscow instructed state backed media outlets, including former Michael Flynn employer RT, to publish more trump-friendly stories. March 29, Paul Manafort officially joined trump campaign.
IN JUNE 2016, a Russian think tank, the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, staffed by intelligence officials appointed by President Vladimir Putin issued a report concluding that a trump victory was in their county’s best interest. The report outlined a detailed social media campaign that would employ the use of websites and bots to sway voter impressions.
IN JULY 2016, the GOP convention, organized in large part by Paul Manafort, made several changes to the party platform, including a major alteration in Ukraine policy. No one has claimed credit for these changes. At this same convention, several trump officials met with Russia’s top diplomat, Sergey Kislyak, presumably in a social setting. However, no one disclosed these meetings, despite Russian intervention being a major story at the time. This same month, trump looked to the cameras at a press conference and invited the Russian government to hack more emails and find Hillary’s “missing 33,000 emails.”
IN SEPTEMBER 2016, then-Sen Sessions met again with Kislyak, and discussed “several issues,” which included Ukraine policy and sanctions. Note that Sessions, although a Senator, had no other interests in Russia, and was not chairman of the committee he claimed to be communicating for. Nothing else was determined. This same month, ABC reported that Russian hackers were targeting digitized voter registration systems. In fact, the FBI issued a warning to all state election offices that hackers were trying to break through, and had succeeded in some places. These intrusions went into voter information, not actual voting equipment.
In October 2016, a second document by the Russian intel think tank advocated a switch to amplifying the rumor of voter fraud, when it was assumed Clinton was going to win. The timing of Trumps insistence on this is probably coincidental, but still odd.
In December 2016, post-election, trumps son in law, Jared Kushner, and future NSA chief Michael Flynn met with several Russian officials, and had discussions regarding sanctions, Ukraine policy and other geopolitical issues. These meetings happened at trump tower. Neither man disclosed these meetings, although if they were innocuous, you wonder why. Kushner also met with the head of Vnesheconombank, a Russian bank, led by a former Russian security officer, which had been financing the Rosneft/Exxon deal years earlier, and is currently under US sanctions. These events were observed by US intel doing work on foreign agents.
IN JANUARY 2017, trump announced his cabinet picks, including – Shockingly? – Tillerson for Sec of State and Wilber Ross for Commerce Sec. Ross was a business partner of the principal owner of Russia’s largest oil company, Rosneft. He was also vice chairman of Bank of Cyprus, the bank long suspected of helping to launder billions in Russian oligarch money. Both of these cabinet secretaries have personal, financial interest in sanctions being lifted. Tillerson alone has over $200 million in Exxon stock. This same month, Erik Prince, brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, met with a Russian envoy, facilitated by the Prince of the United Arab Emirates. The intent was to establish a back channel of communication between the world leaders. It was also at this time the DOJ informed the trump team that Flynn had been picked up in December on intercepts of foreign calls, discussing sanctions. Flynn adamantly denied this. He continued to operate as the National Security Advisor, despite the trump team knowing of his dishonesty. Flynn resigned weeks later, but only after an incessant news cycle begun by a Washington Post story revealing the dishonesty.
IN FEBRUARY, Attorney General Sessions recused himself from any investigations after it was revealed that he met twice, once publicly, and privately with Russia’s top diplomat during the election, despite denying contact during his confirmation hearings. He admitted the sloppiness of his answers, and apologized, before recusing himself. He also confirmed they discussed Ukraine “and other issues,” but not the election. The story of Russian propaganda was a major story at the time of their meeting, but Sessions says it never came up.
IN MARCH, House Rep David Nunes, as chairman of the House Intel cmte, was called to the White House late at night to review intel regarding which government agents looked into trump investigations. The next day, he returned to the White House to “reveal” to the president what he had discovered… at the White House. The oddity of the ordeal led to his recusal from the House investigation into trump’s Russia connections. Yes, for those that are counting, that’s one firing/resignation and two high ranking recusals after only a month of the presidency. At the end of the month, testimony at a senate intel cmte hearing reveals that intel agencies observed the Russian campaign to include hacking leaks favorably to trump, dozens of fake news websites, instruction to state media to run trump-friendly stories, and a concerted social media effort both through hyper targeting of anti-Clinton propaganda and thousands of paid bots to roam Twitter and Facebook to support trump and attack Clinton.
IN APRIL, Ukraine media and elected leadership reported confirmation of not only a financial ledger, but also bank transactions previously denied by Paul Manafort for lobbying work he had done on behalf of Russian interests in Ukraine election influence. After initially denying it, he now admits the transactions occurred but dismissed the implication of a connection to the election. Some articles reveal that Manafort waged a lobbying effort for months, including personal visits, phone calls and letters delivered to trump, wanting to be part of the trump campaign.
Now that it's over, could you relate what she 'delivered' for us plebes?
While we're waiting, I'll point out that Flynn received his clearances most recently from the 0bama administration and when it was found out by the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his interactions with Russian officials he was fired. Which is exactly what should have been done.
I'll contribute that Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
Two weeks later, and he sat in on Putin's and Trump's phone call. It's obvious you and the Trump administration know zilch about vetting. It's really sad that the go to excuse for this amateur hour administration is it's always Obama's fault. Talk about taking responsibility. To quote "Sad"Now that it's over, could you relate what she 'delivered' for us plebes?
While we're waiting, I'll point out that Flynn received his clearances most recently from the 0bama administration and when it was found out by the Trump administration that Flynn had lied about his interactions with Russian officials he was fired. Which is exactly what should have been done.
I'll contribute that Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.
Sally Yates is delivering right now, you should watch.
People who expect these things to happen overnight are ignorant of history.
Watergate took 2 years. It's only been 100 days.
Speak out? lol. Yeah, you guys are such outspoken rebels. Trump is a douche, a moron, an idiot? You don't say? What other gems of undiscovered knowledge do you have to present? Are there any barn doors you haven't taken aim at yet?
Get over yourselves. That's the message I'm sending. But you and some others in here don't seem to get it.
Don't focus on Trump. Who fugging cares? He'll continue to step on his own small manhood. Focus on the ills of the left and fix them, then boot the moron out the next election. That is how the ship will be righted.