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Jhhnn

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That didn't seem to stop then any did it?

Normally speaking, the transition team of an incoming President works closely with their predecessors to learn about how it works, about how to do the job. None of this is normal, of course, because the Trump team wants to re-do it all before they even know what it is or how it works. Who knew that governing could be so complicated, right?
 
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werepossum

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That didn't seem to stop then any did it?
No, but probably the biggest single qualifier for any Trump team position is the ability to outdo potential competitors in praising Cheeto Jesus. It's like North Korea with less personal worth, slightly less paunch, and slightly less poofy hair. (In quantities of hairs, not in poofiness of individual hairs.) Coupled with being amateurs in government, the sheer number of missteps is not surprising. If you remember, Team Obama also rejected the old heads' guidance and similarly made a lot of missteps. However, they tended to learn from their embarrassment. That crucial step appears to be missing.
 
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No, but probably the biggest single qualifier for any Trump team position is the ability to outdo potential competitors in praising Cheeto Jesus. It's like North Korea with less personal worth, slightly less paunch, and slightly less poofy hair. (In quantities of hairs, not in poofiness of individual hairs.) Coupled with being amateurs in government, the sheer number of missteps is not surprising. If you remember, Team Obama also rejected the old heads' guidance and similarly made a lot of missteps. However, they tended to learn from their embarrassment. That crucial step appears to be missing.
first thing you need to do to improve yourself is admit your made a mistake. drumpf and company are completely void of that capability, so fuck them.
 

Younigue

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Um, Hilary was Secretary of State at the time. The Trump transition team was the Trump transition team. That means they had NO official status or office.
LOL! Twat! You make that distinction? So what does the word "transition" mean to you?
 

Puffnstuff

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If you remember, Team Obama also rejected the old heads' guidance and similarly made a lot of missteps. However, they tended to learn from their embarrassment. That crucial step appears to be missing.
If Obama had propped up his kids in key positions and rich friends in his cabinet in areas that they'd opposed in the business world the republitards would've been up in arms over it. Trump wants to be king of the world and I believe that the Russians and Chinese used finances to manipulate him to where he is now.
 

werepossum

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If Obama had propped up his kids in key positions and rich friends in his cabinet in areas that they'd opposed in the business world the republitards would've been up in arms over it. Trump wants to be king of the world and I believe that the Russians and Chinese used finances to manipulate him to where he is now.
Not the Chinese - the Clintons are their dogs. And yes, certainly the "republitards" would've been up in arms over Obama putting friends, family members and "associates" in key positions. That WAS an issue with Obama early on. Remember the uproar over Van Jones, Obama's "Special Advisor on Green Jobs" who happened to be a self-professed Communist? Remember the uproar over Hillary Clinton framing and firing the White House Travel Office to replace them with her Arkansas private cronies? The same uproar applied to Trump has been applied to Obama and the Clintons when appropriate. It's just a lot louder with Trump because (A) the Dems own the mainstream media and (B) Trump is doing it at a level never before seen in post-war America.
 

werepossum

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That's a nebulous "they're just as bad!", huh?
<sigh> Nope. "They're just as bad" wouldn't have included the part about Team Obama learning from their mistakes. But thanks for including me in your delusion. I now feel special.
 

Puffnstuff

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Not the Chinese - the Clintons are their dogs. And yes, certainly the "republitards" would've been up in arms over Obama putting friends, family members and "associates" in key positions. That WAS an issue with Obama early on. Remember the uproar over Van Jones, Obama's "Special Advisor on Green Jobs" who happened to be a self-professed Communist? Remember the uproar over Hillary Clinton framing and firing the White House Travel Office to replace them with her Arkansas private cronies? The same uproar applied to Trump has been applied to Obama and the Clintons when appropriate. It's just a lot louder with Trump because (A) the Dems own the mainstream media and (B) Trump is doing it at a level never before seen in post-war America.
Exactly why calling things out when you see it is appropriate for all who serve in public office.
 

Jhhnn

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<sigh> Nope. "They're just as bad" wouldn't have included the part about Team Obama learning from their mistakes. But thanks for including me in your delusion. I now feel special.

Which in no way substantiates your claim that "Team Obama also rejected the old heads' guidance". That's the "they're just as bad" part.
 

UNCjigga

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Fusion GPS founders just published an op-ed in the NYT to set the record straight on the Steele Dossier:
The Republicans’ Fake Investigations
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html

They are asking Congress to release full transcripts of their testimony and not cherry-picked talking points that they've selectively leaked to right wing news.

But here's the real stunner:
We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, ***including one inside the Trump camp.***
Reporters are already following up...what Fusion GPS is saying is that the FBI in 2016 had already corroborated some details of the dossier from cooperating sources INSIDE TRUMP'S OWN CAMPAIGN.
 
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Curious if Breitbart will still claim the Russia investigation is still a wild goose chase or witch hunt. This could get fun when Trump and Breitbart go at it. The faithful won't know where to turn.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”
 
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Curious if Breitbart will still claim the Russia investigation is still a wild goose chase or witch hunt. This could get fun when Trump and Breitbart go at it. The faithful won't know where to turn.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

Another link, Bannon says Trump Tower Meeting was treasonous. We know Jared and him don't get along, things could get interesting. This is an either or Bannon or Trump can't say both are correct, choose your side.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ve-book/ar-BBHOUgS?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
 

fskimospy

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I think it's pretty clearly Bannon going after his internal administration enemies. As for what Bannon actually thinks, who knows? He lies about everything else so why believe him when he tells you something you want to believe?
 
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UNCjigga

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I think it's pretty clearly Bannon going after his internal administration enemies. As for what Bannon actually thinks, who knows? He lies about everything else so why believe him when he tells you something you want to believe?

It's almost like he trying to suck his own... nevermind.
 
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Maxima1

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