Intel 5x faster per watt.

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Furen

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Originally posted by: infestedgh0st
is intelia is most hated person on this forum?

it seems like it is.

She's been getting close these past few days...
 

Boyne7

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well, that has been one helluva long read... thoroughly entertaining though. should be interesting when all this crap is actually released till then i'll be sticking with my a64
 

rise

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my favorite quote from irrelvia, too good to leave out-
Originally posted by: Intelia
yes i do know how to spell doudt . Again I have no idea why the g got in there it was not a typing error . Just a thinking one.
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: rise4310
my favorite quote from irrelvia, too good to leave out-
Originally posted by: Intelia
yes i do know how to spell doudt . Again I have no idea why the g got in there it was not a typing error . Just a thinking one.

Thats my kids favorite to no doubt about it . )
 
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From the estimates and guesstimates floating about, on the desktop, these chips may be able to run 20% faster than current overclocked Dothans. Unfortunately for Intel, that's not likely to get them significantly faster than current Hammers, much less future 65nm versions.

from overclockers, enough said. Intelia do you honestly think that in a year AMD will come out with no upgrades to their product? No speed increases or anything like that?
 
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if you look at any of the rest of the articles on overclockers you will see they are not fanboys, they bash AMD on there just as much as they do intel. They are not brainwashed biggots such as yourself, do us all a favor, restart in dos mode, type format C: and never come back here again.
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: jtworldwide2
From the estimates and guesstimates floating about, on the desktop, these chips may be able to run 20% faster than current overclocked Dothans. Unfortunately for Intel, that's not likely to get them significantly faster than current Hammers, much less future 65nm versions.

from overclockers, enough said. Intelia do you honestly think that in a year AMD will come out with no upgrades to their product? No speed increases or anything like that?


This isn't an Amd tread I know were AMD is at right now but nothing about whats coming from them so its a mute point.
 

Matt2

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Thsi thread is still going?

Can we please delete this mods? Or at least lock it... I wouldn't want anybody to miss out on this comedy. Maybe a lock and a sticky?
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: Ronin
1 word.

IDF.

Thank you.

Even Intel doesn't back up your claims. Give it a rest.


Merom 3x the performance of yonah watt for watt
Conroe 5x better performance based on watts for watts used. Your right Intel seems to think there going to be better than I do.
 

Matt2

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Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: Ronin
1 word.

IDF.

Thank you.

Even Intel doesn't back up your claims. Give it a rest.


Merom 3x the performance of yonah watt for watt
Conroe 5x better performance based on watts for watts used. Your right Intel seems to think there going to be better than I do.


Intel also thought Netburst was a good idea. Prescott too for that matter. Hell, they even thought Itanium was a gold mine.

I heard Intel thinks you should not be allowed to interact with humans Intelia.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: Ronin
1 word.

IDF.

Thank you.

Even Intel doesn't back up your claims. Give it a rest.


Merom 3x the performance of yonah watt for watt
Conroe 5x better performance based on watts for watts used. Your right Intel seems to think there going to be better than I do.


Intel also thought Netburst was a good idea. Prescott too for that matter. Hell, they even thought Itanium was a gold mine.

I heard Intel thinks you should not be allowed to interact with humans Intelia.

I will refer again to this image, where Intel claim that the Prescott core give more performance per watt than the Northwood core.
 

Screech

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Apparently, Intel couldn't face the embarrasment of having the Prescott visibly below the Northwood....
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: Ronin
1 word.

IDF.

Thank you.

Even Intel doesn't back up your claims. Give it a rest.


Merom 3x the performance of yonah watt for watt
Conroe 5x better performance based on watts for watts used. Your right Intel seems to think there going to be better than I do.


Intel also thought Netburst was a good idea. Prescott too for that matter. Hell, they even thought Itanium was a gold mine.

I heard Intel thinks you should not be allowed to interact with humans Intelia.

) LOL . You haven't clue what Intel thinks of me!

 

Maximilian

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Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: Matt2
Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: Ronin
1 word.

IDF.

Thank you.

Even Intel doesn't back up your claims. Give it a rest.


Merom 3x the performance of yonah watt for watt
Conroe 5x better performance based on watts for watts used. Your right Intel seems to think there going to be better than I do.


Intel also thought Netburst was a good idea. Prescott too for that matter. Hell, they even thought Itanium was a gold mine.

I heard Intel thinks you should not be allowed to interact with humans Intelia.

) LOL . You haven't clue what Intel thinks of me!

Knowledge seek of the force do you?
 

Aquila76

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Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: rise4310
my favorite quote from irrelvia, too good to leave out-
Originally posted by: Intelia
yes i do know how to spell doudt . Again I have no idea why the g got in there it was not a typing error . Just a thinking one.

Thats my kids favorite to no doubt about it . )

OH NOOOES!!1!1!

PLEASE tell me she isn't breeding!
 

rpsgc

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Originally posted by: Aquila76

OH NOOOES!!1!1!

PLEASE tell me she isn't breeding!

For the love of all that's holy NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :disgust:
 

Markfw

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and the wrong spelling of too in that context......
 
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Let me point out that Conroe would ONLY be 5x faster than the Northwood (which it was compared against) ONLY at running each at a specific clock cycle, because it seems a lot of you have forgotten that power useage scales nonlinearly.

Therefore, someone claimed for argument's sake, purely theoretical, that if Conroe ran at 3 Ghz for 20 watts then it would be 15 Ghz at 100 watts.

WRONG.

It would be fantastic if Conroe did run at 15 Ghz on 100 watts, but let's see what really happens when we scale:

3 - 20
6 - 50
9 - 110
12 - 180
15 - 280

Nobody's going to run a chip that will burn 280 watts at normal load.

I just gave the previous case as a theoretical example, but it is more in line with what really happens.

As such, it would be more realistic, to compare a 3 Ghz Northwood to a 2 or 2.5 Ghz Conroe that would use less than 1/5th total power of the Northwood to get the 5-1 ratio.

I state this not to bash Intel, but to provide a more correct, if not entirely precise view of looking at what Intel's people are saying.

That said, both AMD and Intel are working on low-power chips, they both have 500 Mhz chips that consume about 5 w/hr at full load and I remember reading that the Chinese developed (or stole the design for) a similar chip. There are newer technologies, or at least technologies that are now more frequently used to reduce power consumption. For what it's worth, Elpia claimed to develop a DDR3 @ 1333 Mhz on 1.5 volts that uses what they call "dual-gate transistors" to reduce current leakage. My bet is that AMD and Intel will be looking at this technology for their processors if they aren't already.

EDIT:

Except for those things I stated about the actual developments with reducing power useage, there are other factors to consider. Intel said 5x the performance per watt, the key word is performance, not Ghz. Also, I don't think they've even given us any means by which to measure their "performance per watt" so until then any theoretical speculation, including my own will be irrelevant.
 
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