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Pabster

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Originally posted by: Intelia
Matt post links to AMD future products I would love to read or if you want post to IBM there the true developers of the AMD 64.

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Matt2

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Originally posted by: Intelia
Matt post links to AMD future products I would love to read or if you want post to IBM there the true developers of the AMD 64.

Like I said in the AMD Mobile Dual Core thread...

AMD doesn't whore out promises regarding vaporware a year or more ahead of release.

Intel does it for the sake of keeping brainwashed Intel Zealots interested in their company while they get spanked by AMD.
 

Intelia

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All of you guys put up $5000 I will put up the same Than we well benchmark davids pc against any single card pc AMD FX57@ 3.0GHZ winner take all
 

Furen

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Intelia: fair is to compare the highest clocked cpu on one architecture to the highest clock cpu on another. Like a p4 3.8 to an fx 57... or a dothan 2.26 to an fx 57. If you dont want to do that then you can compare similarly priced cpus to each other... Like a 2GHz dothan to an athlon 64 3800+. Since the architectures are different you cannot do a straight clock-for-clock comparison.

Now about conroe... from what I about it (that it is a 14-stage-pipeline, 4-issue core with fully pipelined execution units with lots of cache and a 1333 FSB) I'd say that it will perform about the same to slightly worse than AMD's A64 clock for clock. Of course it will probably scale higher on the clock speed since intel probably went 14 stage to be able to maintain a marginal clockspeed superiority. Now, there are a lot of unknowns that could make performance better but I think conroe will still have the Pentium M's weak FPU performance which will be somewhat made up for by its 4 FPUs.
 

Hacp

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! A post like this is just asking for a heated debate, maybe flame war. Defenetly borderline troll post. Nothing is made right now. Anand does not have a working motherboard with a working processor that can be benchmarked. All this speculation is killing me.
 

Matt2

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Intel does it for the sake of keeping brainwashed Intel Zealots interested in their company while they get spanked by AMD.

*yawn*

Apparently this strategy works.

First thing that has worked for Intel since the Coppermine.

I miss that CPU by the way. My 600E@ 800mhz pwned j00. Ahhh... those were the days.
 

Soccerman06

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Intelia could you please stop wasting space and write something useful and not arguing with pabster or whoever.
 

mamisano

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Just curious how Intel plans on helping out in th FPU department? I guess they will just throw the two cores at the problem?

Second, these processors will be out in 2H of 2006. That can be as early as June 16, or as late as December 31! The fact of the matter here is that AMD will not be sitting on their laurels until then.
 

Furen

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Originally posted by: mamisano
Just curious how Intel plans on helping out in th FPU department? I guess they will just throw the two cores at the problem?

Second, these processors will be out in 2H of 2006. That can be as early as June 16, or as late as December 31! The fact of the matter here is that AMD will not be sitting on their laurels until then.

Heh, hopefully they wont... they've done it before, though.

 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: Intelia
All of you guys put up $5000 I will put up the same Than we well benchmark davids pc against any single card pc AMD FX57@ 3.0GHZ winner take all

I'll be happy to take that bet...IF you're talking about a air on air battle. If not, I'll dry ice you until your boobs fall off (and David's lil helper).
 

Matt2

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Originally posted by: Hacp
I predict this thread will be 1000 posts long!

Agreed, but don't be discouraged AT members!

Intelia will undoubetly create another flame bait thread. I may not put $5,000 on my rig beating "David's" kyrogenically frozen P4-M, but I will definately put $5,000 on the fact this is not the last worthless thread Intelia creates.
 

CheesePoofs

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Originally posted by: Intelia
AMD didn't do the work IBM did

um ... no. IBM and AMD have a pertnership in which they develop manufacturing techniques together. Not chips.

Originally posted by: Intelia
Matt post links to AMD future products I would love to read or if you want post to IBM there the true developers of the AMD 64.

Yesterday, could you have posted a link (besides Inquirer) on a future Intel product? I think not, all that existed was speculation. Maybe, just maybe, its the same with AMD :Q
 

CheesePoofs

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Originally posted by: Intelia
There are only hardcore AMD fanboys who won't except what Intel is bringing to the table. Dothan is here right now . power usage is great. gaming performance is great . the fact it lacks sse3 hurts it . But to be fair take a stock dothan @ 2.23 put it against a AMD 64 running at 2.2 GHZ and the dothan dominates almost all the benchmarks.
I will get a link and compare only at the same GHz and you will see

Thats comparing the highest end chip of the Dothans with one of AMD's lowest. On a similar note, lets compare 2.8ghz A64's with 2.8Ghz P4's and see who wins. Then we can all settle, fair and square, the debacle of who makes the best CPU's :roll:
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Intelia
All of you guys put up $5000 I will put up the same Than we well benchmark davids pc against any single card pc AMD FX57@ 3.0GHZ winner take all

I'll be happy to take that bet...IF you're talking about a air on air battle. If not, I'll dry ice you until your boobs fall off (and David's lil helper).

Sorry dave's is 3GHZ on water with chiller. its still 3GHz

 

rise

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Originally posted by: CheesePoofs
Originally posted by: Intelia
There are only hardcore AMD fanboys who won't except what Intel is bringing to the table. Dothan is here right now . power usage is great. gaming performance is great . the fact it lacks sse3 hurts it . But to be fair take a stock dothan @ 2.23 put it against a AMD 64 running at 2.2 GHZ and the dothan dominates almost all the benchmarks.
I will get a link and compare only at the same GHz and you will see

Thats comparing the highest end chip of the Dothans with one of AMD's lowest. On a similar note, lets compare 2.8ghz A64's with 2.8Ghz P4's and see who wins. Then we can all settle, fair and square, the debacle of who makes the best CPU's :roll:

compare what i care about, price point to price point. $200 vs $200 and so on up the ladder.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Intelia
All of you guys put up $5000 I will put up the same Than we well benchmark davids pc against any single card pc AMD FX57@ 3.0GHZ winner take all

I'll be happy to take that bet...IF you're talking about a air on air battle. If not, I'll dry ice you until your boobs fall off (and David's lil helper).

lmao!
 

Intelia

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I will take that bet try to set it up so anand will do the test on both PC'S I just talked to david he's on the west coast he will be home thi weekend . He has to reinstall his present parts into his old case but he well take that bet . so lets get it straight His PM @3ghz with his G70 at the manufactors set clock rate against your FX55@3ghz with what ever video catd you have set at manufactors clock is that sound good. NO sli
 

CheesePoofs

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Originally posted by: rise4310
Originally posted by: CheesePoofs
Originally posted by: Intelia
There are only hardcore AMD fanboys who won't except what Intel is bringing to the table. Dothan is here right now . power usage is great. gaming performance is great . the fact it lacks sse3 hurts it . But to be fair take a stock dothan @ 2.23 put it against a AMD 64 running at 2.2 GHZ and the dothan dominates almost all the benchmarks.
I will get a link and compare only at the same GHz and you will see

Thats comparing the highest end chip of the Dothans with one of AMD's lowest. On a similar note, lets compare 2.8ghz A64's with 2.8Ghz P4's and see who wins. Then we can all settle, fair and square, the debacle of who makes the best CPU's :roll:

compare what i care about, price point to price point. $200 vs $200 and so on up the ladder.

Yeah, I agree. Who cares if one CPU beats another at the same clock frequency if the winning one costs 700 and the other costs 200?
 

CheesePoofs

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Originally posted by: Intelia
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Intelia
All of you guys put up $5000 I will put up the same Than we well benchmark davids pc against any single card pc AMD FX57@ 3.0GHZ winner take all

I'll be happy to take that bet...IF you're talking about a air on air battle. If not, I'll dry ice you until your boobs fall off (and David's lil helper).

Sorry dave's is 3GHZ on water with chiller. its still 3GHz

If you were to make it fair, it'd be his 3ghz Dothan versus a hand picked fx-57 at the highest clock it can reach with the same cooling.
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: CheesePoofs
Originally posted by: rise4310
Originally posted by: CheesePoofs
Originally posted by: Intelia
There are only hardcore AMD fanboys who won't except what Intel is bringing to the table. Dothan is here right now . power usage is great. gaming performance is great . the fact it lacks sse3 hurts it . But to be fair take a stock dothan @ 2.23 put it against a AMD 64 running at 2.2 GHZ and the dothan dominates almost all the benchmarks.
I will get a link and compare only at the same GHz and you will see

Thats comparing the highest end chip of the Dothans with one of AMD's lowest. On a similar note, lets compare 2.8ghz A64's with 2.8Ghz P4's and see who wins. Then we can all settle, fair and square, the debacle of who makes the best CPU's :roll:

compare what i care about, price point to price point. $200 vs $200 and so on up the ladder.

Yeah, I agree. Who cares if one CPU beats another at the same clock frequency if the winning one costs 700 and the other costs 200?
Go away cheesey when i told dave it was ronin that wanted the bet he got pretty excited
 
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