Intel 5x faster per watt.

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: Intelia
Now lets just go for the very smallest gain . Conroe SSE3 64 bit 65 watts if it is 2x faster than a dothan 2.26 I am going to be thrilled to death. Merom is stated to be 3x faster than dothan so Iam being really concervative

No, you're being an idiot.
Mermon is NOT stated to be 3x faster than Dothan ANYWHERE except your head.
It's stated to have 3 times the performance per watt that Dothna does, and with a die shrink and dual cores, as Furen said, that's fairly reasonable.But it's not necessarily going to be 3x as fast.
Hell, it might be the exact same speed, but consume 1/3rd of the power, and Intel's numbers would still be true.

Rude ass here learn to read !!!! THIS is from link on first page.

Merom will deliver a three times performance per watt while Conroe will include a 5X improvement in performance per watt. All of these are 65 nanometre dual core processors. By Q3 of 2006, sales of 65 nanometre chips will surpass existing 90 nanometre process chips, he said.

 

[Intelia]

We are talking dual vs single thats an automatic 2x add 1x more divide by 2 = 50% faster or more performance

 

[imported_jtworldwide2]

did you guys read the rest of the article?
they are shortening the pipeline on the CPU to something like 14 steps, down from 31 in the P4. AMD chip use a 12 step pipe. What this means, if they stamped out these new chips today you are not going to have anywhere near the same clock speed as what we have with the current p4. Top chip speeds would prolly be in the area of 2.8-3.0 ghz. Yeah faster clock for clock, but not as fast of a clock, hmm this argument sounds familer, what have all the AMD guys been saying for years?

 

[Nanobaud]

Intelia-

A hybrid car can get 50 mpg and a big SUV might get about 10 mpg. That does not mean that if the SUV will go 70 mph the car will go 350 mph. Read your own references and think about what they are claiming.

 

[Pabster]

Don't waste your time. Another Intel mouthpiece floating FUD around the boards.

Next we'll hear that Penryn will be 1000x faster per watt <sigh>

 

[Soccerman06]

Heres another Link Or Anand Just (literally) made This one

"65 watts, or 32.5 watts per core in a dual-core configuration. "

He added that certain low-voltage processors may achieve power targets of 5 watts, with a new category of processors for handtops consuming as low as 0.5 watts.

"In keeping with the company's tradition of providing long-range performance goals, Otellini promised that Intel processors would achieve ten times greater performance by the end of this decade. He said Merom processors would achieve three times greater performance than the first "Banias"? Pentium M processors of 2003; and that Conroe would achieve five times greater performance over the 90 nm "Northwood"? Pentium 4s introduced in 2002, and twice the performance of this year's "Smithfield"? Pentium D."

"We will deliver 'factor of 10' breakthroughs to a variety of platforms that can reduce energy consumption tenfold or bring 10 times the performance of today's products,"

"In a post-keynote briefing to reporters, Intel vice president for the Digital Enterprise Group, Stephen Smith, provided some further details about the new architecture. He said Conroe's core may be given as few as 14 pipelines, as opposed to Pentium 4's current 31. He also said Conroe may, possibly, take on as many as four cores by early 2008, though no formal decision has been reached. When pressed about cache size, Smith indicated a possible 8 Mb cache for Conroe, but again, would not officially confirm."

 

[imported_jtworldwide2]

what cracks me up is how the guy is saying its going to be 5x faster per watt. Yeah it should be, with more efficient CPU on a smaller die that is running at a slower clock than todays CPU it should be more efficient.

 

[clarkey01]

Jesus ....

There should be a sticky for 'Future Intel chips and wet dreams'. I'll wait for the review..

 

[Intelia]

Intel had short pipes along time ago . They had to go after faster processors they choose a road that had a dead end but made billions of $$$$$$ before they had to turn around. But they still learned a lot of tech . going down that road that will benefit us in the future. Your argument is shallow and fruitless. When its all over it will be a mobile Chip from Intel that dominates a Server chip from AMD.

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Nanobaud
Intelia-

A hybrid car can get 50 mpg and a big SUV might get about 10 mpg. That does not mean that if the SUV will go 70 mph the car will go 350 mph. Read your own references and think about what they are claiming.

Nice comparsion david were's a size 13 shoe does that mean??????

 

[Intelia]

Simplest thing I can say Dothan at 2.8 GHz destroys FX57GHz in gaming right now today' PERIOD proven fact not fiction real world

 

[imported_Kensai]

Originally posted by: Intelia
Simplest thing I can say Dothan at 2.8 GHz destroys FX57GHz in gaming right now today' PERIOD proven fact not fiction real world

But a 4GHz FX-57 destroys a 2.8GHz Dothan in gaming right now.

 

[imported_jtworldwide2]

Originally posted by: Intelia
Intel had short pipes along time ago . They had to go after faster processors they choose a road that had a dead end but made billions of $$$$$$ before they had to turn around. But they still learned a lot of tech . going down that road that will benefit us in the future. Your argument is shallow and fruitless. When its all over it will be a mobile Chip from Intel that dominates a Server chip from AMD.

yeah so did cyrix, whats your point?

 

[Intelia]

YES it does but the 4GHZ dothan kills the 4GHz FX57 and dothans have been clocked there.

Sample read of Conroe

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25623

 

[sandorski]

Ahh, the New MHZ, Performance/Watt

 

[imported_jtworldwide2]

Originally posted by: Intelia
YES it does but the 4GHZ dothan kills the 4GHz FX57 and dothans have been clocked there.

Sample read of Conroe

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25623

ahh the inquirer, the most reliable source of information on the internet

 

[Furen]

Dothans have hit 4GHz? can you give me a link to that? (I'm seriously interested).

Let me point this out once more, since people (Ie. Intelia) just dont seem to get it. Dothan is faster than an a64 at the same clock on SOME applications while being significantly slower on anything that relies on FP performance. Power consumption is way better on dothan, of course.

 

[Elcs]

I wonder whether these will be "up to x3 and x5 times the performance" or "x5 better in SiSoft Sandra Tests!!!!"

Ill believe it when I see it. Ill buy it if it suits my price range/overclocking needs/performance expectations.

S939 is probably going to be skipped. Socket M2 looks like my target for now unless Intel can change my mind.

 

[Hard Ball]

Originally posted by: Furen
Dothans have hit 4GHz? can you give me a link to that? (I'm seriously interested).

Let me point this out once more, since people (Ie. Intelia) just dont seem to get it. Dothan is faster than an a64 at the same clock on SOME applications while being significantly slower on anything that relies on FP performance. Power consumption is way better on dothan, of course.

It has, but only on LN2 cooling, I don't think that's what you had in mind though.
The FXs could hit that speed easily under these kinds of conditions.

 

[jkostans]

Wow, I just read through this entire thread and can't believe this intelia person. Intelia: do you own a lot of those products on infomercials? You seem to fall for marketing BS pretty easily. Really, you can't take anything Intel (or AMD/Apple for that matter) says literally. They want you to think they are going to dominate the market, and they are pretty good at making people think that. Just think logically about it and you realize their statements aren't completely false, just twisted.

 

[Furen]

Originally posted by: Hard Ball

It has, but only on LN2 cooling, I don't think that's what you had in mind though.
The FXs could hit that speed easily under these kinds of conditions.

No no, I believe it is possible since the pipeline is only slightly shorter than an a64's, I just want to check the benchmarks for it (I'm guessing it is benchable, right?)

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: jkostans
Wow, I just read through this entire thread and can't believe this intelia person. Intelia: do you own a lot of those products on infomercials? You seem to fall for marketing BS pretty easily. Really, you can't take anything Intel (or AMD/Apple for that matter) says literally. They want you to think they are going to dominate the market, and they are pretty good at making people think that. Just think logically about it and you realize their statements aren't completely false, just twisted.

Howard Zinn is her 'husband', so all she says must be true. (and for those of you who don't know who that is, I had to actually google him, too, so don't feel bad).

 

[Stoneburner]

the hell do you mean howard zinn is her husband?

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Kensai

Originally posted by: Intelia
Simplest thing I can say Dothan at 2.8 GHz destroys FX57GHz in gaming right now today' PERIOD proven fact not fiction real world

But a 4GHz FX-57 destroys a 2.8GHz Dothan in gaming right now.

If your going to overclock one, why not the other? getting sick of this Dothan is the second coming of christ.

 

[Farmer]

I suggest we shut up, wait for these cores to come out, and see how fast it is then. No use in speculating, or raving about the first thing you hear.