There are allot of people who associate Intel and gaming excellence. Heck, I almost went with a 9900K, and I would have been happy. My 3900X just made more sense because gaming isn't my #1 priority (and I thought the 9900K was overpriced in light of the competition). So I'm sure ppl will buy the 10900.I guess if Intel can get enough people that are willing to replace 9900ks with 10900ks they'll be . . . okay. I just don't see it happening for a lot of people. The time to strike was December 2019, and they whiffed that by a country mile.
There are allot of people who associate Intel and gaming excellence. Heck, I almost went with a 9900K, and I would have been happy. My 3900X just made more sense because gaming isn't my #1 priority (and I thought the 9900K was overpriced in light of the competition). So I'm sure ppl will buy the 10900.
Yeah, but 5.2 giggle hurtz man! Seriously though, many gamers will just stop at the Intel name, others will see the high peak clocks speed (not even knowing it's TVB) and stop there, waving dollar bills. In the end, it's years and years of marketing. Companies spend allot of money on marketing; Intel did and does, there is a reason why. What I don't get is why people on this forum don't get the fact that intangibles sell?!When the 9900k came out in 2018, it was bar none the fastest non-HEDT desktop chip you could buy. That won't be true for the 10900k, and it might not be fastest in anything a few months after it launches.
It's still April 2020 and Comet Lake-S is nowhere to be seen.
When the 9900k came out in 2018, it was bar none the fastest non-HEDT desktop chip you could buy. That won't be true for the 10900k, and it might not be fastest in anything a few months after it launches.
It's still April 2020 and Comet Lake-S is nowhere to be seen.
May I ask you, what on Earth are you talking about? It's around $350, $80 more expensive than a 3700X right now, which comes with a good cooler and has a MUCH higher base clock.
Does seem like there are supply chain issues in general, likely related to the virus.
No, the virus isn't involved this time I don't think. April-May time period for CML-S was rumoured late last year. Though I entirely forget who the source of that rumour was now, I definitely remember people thinking it was a CES release and I was telling them very late-Q1 to Q2 was more likely.Does seem like there are supply chain issues in general, likely related to the virus.
It's wrong. The i5 should be 6c12t, the i3 is looking to be 4c8tWikipedia says the i5 comet lake will revert to 4 cores but with hyper-threading. That is not good. The 9600K had 6 core 6 threads.
Not sure if this even still holds much now.Yeah, but 5.2 giggle hurtz man!
Sorry, I thought it was already known by then - hence my confusion 🙂Um i made this conclusion before the price was confirmed, was only interested if price was right but already sold on a 3700x/3900x. Not interested in anything Intel LOL.
Not sure if this even still holds much now.
5.2Ghz and overclock it to what, 5.3Ghz?
Well, if they are willing to put TVB 5.3 on the laptop models, you would think that all the K models (with a decent enough cooler) that a 5.2 or 5.3 OC on all cores should be doable. Sure it's only another 4-5% over the typical 5 Ghz OC on Coffee Lake but I guess it's something.
5.3 GHz all-core is doable right now . . . but not with any existing boost map (not even PL2 210W on a 9900K/KS).
At stock, yeah... because of the per-core multiplier limits that Intel has put in.
I'm not convinced we'll even see it in benchmarks.If you'll notice, Intel is using thermal velocity boost (TVB) to achieve those speeds. By default, the top-end Comet Lake-S chips will only hit speeds like that when TVB allows, which is going to be based on a different boost map than what they normally use for 14nm chips. The jury's still out on how often that will show up outside of ST benchmarks. My guess is that for any workload with 2-3 or more heavy threads, TVB won't be a factor at all. The jury's still out on whether it can boost any higher on even lightly-MT workloads than CoffeeLake-S configured for the same TDP.
What you're going to see are just higher TDPs.
@jpiniero
I'm more wondering about the impact of TVB on the 10900k and similar. Even on wall power, I don't think it's going to be anything too special.
TB3.0 at stock is 5.2 on the 10900K, so an extra 100 Mhz doesn't seem that outrageous.
I'm skeptical about how long it will hold 5.2 GHz.
Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 560mm radiator. Push, pull?!
Heh. The old custom loop builder in me would love to take a shot at overclocking that 10 core heat monster. Just don't have the dough to do it 😛A bit much for a processor just a bit faster then AMD in selective things?