It is rumoured that PL2 for 10 core CL is 250w.So get 5lb monster cooler if you wanna aircool that.
It is rumoured that PL2 for 10 core CL is 250w.So get 5lb monster cooler if you wanna aircool that.I am even sorta tempted to wait but idk for less currently i could jump onto a mature platform with a cheaper 12 threaded 3900x. Now about all that heat, did they get it under control or will the 10 core demand water? I am all about air cooling that is why as much as the 10 core Intel may appeal to me a slightly cheaper currently 3900x is more appealing. Your golden with a NH-D15 with that.
LOL, so at least a semi custom 360 loop just to avoid throttling. Never mind overclocking. I see some angry posts in Intel's future.It is rumoured that PL2 for 10 core CL is 250w.So get 5lb monster cooler if you wanna aircool that.
LOL, so at least a semi custom 360 loop just to avoid throttling. Never mind overclocking. I see some angry posts in Intel's future.
This is exactly my point, you never had to go for a x570 board with a 3600. The B450 Tomahawk is better than most low-end x570s while being much cheaper. We'll see how fast Intel comes out with B460 and how fast Zen 3 comes, because then the Ryzen 3000 series will drop dramatically in price, poasibly making CML obsolete.Well, as usual, people who don't read motherboard reviews pay the price. There are some really crappy x570 boards out there too. I'm often shocked that board manufacturers don't phase those boards out quickly - but a fool and his money are easily parted. Neither AMD nor Intel seem to be able to control their board partners.
This is exactly my point, you never had to go for a x570 board with a 3600. The B450 Tomahawk is better than most low-end x570s while being much cheaper. We'll see how fast Intel comes out with B460 and how fast Zen 3 comes, because then the Ryzen 3000 series will drop dramatically in price, poasibly making CML obsolete.
I don't mean that as a prophecy, but I see that as the most likely scenario.
Okay, yeah, see your point. CML will be, in some ways, because of Zen 3000 and B550 on the low end. High end enthusiasts who prefer Intel will still prefer CML. Heck, if I had the money - I'd love to buy the 8 core K version just to play with - it will be a perfectly suitable system for high end gaming, and save money on heating in the winter. Win-winThis is exactly my point, you never had to go for a x570 board with a 3600. The B450 Tomahawk is better than most low-end x570s while being much cheaper. We'll see how fast Intel comes out with B460 and how fast Zen 3 comes, because then the Ryzen 3000 series will drop dramatically in price, poasibly making CML obsolete.
I don't mean that as a prophecy, but I see that as the most likely scenario.
Plus the 3900X is already cheaper -> and I wouldn't be surprised if it touched $400 shortly after CML actually hits the shelves.Honestly, the i5 and i7 parts don't look too bad for the price. On balance their Ryzen 5 and 7 counterparts are probably still going to be better buys, but you could make a strong case for Comet Lake i5 and i7 depending on use case and how aggressive Intel are being with the turbo bins.
The i9 on the other hand... yeah, that's just gonna get slaughtered by the 3900X, outside of one or two fringe scenarios where the i7 would offer much better bang-for-buck.
Honestly, the i5 and i7 parts don't look too bad for the price. On balance their Ryzen 5 and 7 counterparts are probably still going to be better buys, but you could make a strong case for Comet Lake i5 and i7 depending on use case and how aggressive Intel are being with the turbo bins.
The i9 on the other hand... yeah, that's just gonna get slaughtered by the 3900X, outside of one or two fringe scenarios where the i7 would offer much better bang-for-buck.
You have to be aware that those are tray prices for 1k units, not retail.I agree the i5 and i7 could be decent good gaming chips if they will be actually availabe for that price. But Z490 is a cluster**** IMO. At least some boards have PCIE 4.0 hardware (which can't be cheap) but no CPU support for that.
So either all boards have it (and that would make them way too expensive for any i3's) or some will land some wont and there will be a lot of confusion and dissapointment once Rocket Lake is out
Yeah, they are grabbing for straws.Interesting that they include per-core HT enable and disable in the specs. This sounds like an effort to allow Intel to have the best two performing cores have HT disabled to allow them to clock even higher to eek out slightly better benchmark scores. It'll be interesting to see the effectiveness in the reviews...
Time for me to eat some crow, I never believed they would end up doing this crap.And yep, the PL2 is 250W, but mobo builders built for 320-350W!
Time for me to eat some crow, I never believed they would end up doing this crap.
These are not 125W TDP CPUs, and from now on Intel's TDP numbers are just marketing names. What a sad legacy for a CPU architecture that was once the best at everything.
It's just you.Maybe it is just me but that was quite naive from you.
Intel's TDP has always been rated at base clocks, nothing shady there.Time for me to eat some crow, I never believed they would end up doing this crap.
These are not 125W TDP CPUs, and from now on Intel's TDP numbers are just marketing names. What a sad legacy for a CPU architecture that was once the best at everything.
Intel's TDP has always been rated at base clocks, nothing shady there.
It's just the boost clocks have gotten much more aggressive so the power consumption while boosting went up considerably.
Before SKL the average all core boost was maybe 400 MHz over base clock, 6700K didn't even have an all core boost.Wasn't the case before Skylake.