True. Maybe Battlemage dGPU is just kind of a "stitching" of the various silicon blocks, only at a larger scale than the iGPU.Most the R&D must be done anyway for Lunar Lake.
Yea.I don't know that 270mm^2 N5 selling for $250 is at a cost. Is it?
Because they don't have to. Intel has no volume nor the ability to drive volume.You were just claiming Nvidia wasn't going to lower their prices, so which is it?
They're not gonna do that either way. Be serious. Intel is a non-factor. Not a player.Were they ever going to do it, had Intel not launched a GPU with this performance at this price? No.
It's bad for people wanting NV price cuts and good for everyone else.The "10% lower performance at 15% lower price" was never going to cut it, and it seems only AMD is failing to see that.
That's how all GPUs work.Maybe Battlemage dGPU is just kind of a "stitching" of the various silicon blocks, only at a larger scale than the iGPU.
The Intel limited edition card will fit in almost any case. But third party cards especially with three fans may be too big.I should probably go Google this I'm sure there are pics or specs or something so I'll know if it'll fit.
Wafer price is 13-14K make it 13K also B570 is cut down die so it absorbs some value as well at 13K it is $80Die Yield Calculator - iSine
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Using a 0.07 defect density, 16.3mm2 *17mm2(a die 277mm2) = 162 good dies which is 98 dollars per die at 16k per wafer. Add in chip packaging and your over 100.
Yeah this is true they need to bring it to their fabsAdd in a cooling solution for a 200watt product and you add another 20 atleast.
Add in PCB and power circuitry and your adding in another 30-40 dollars.
Add in memory which is another 50-70 dollars.
Add in logistics(shipping), packaging and you are probably at 220. The rest goes to the partner leaving no profit for Intel or a loss. And these losses can be tremendous when you mix in R and D.
Analyst: Intel Has Lost $3.5 Billion on Arc GPUs, Might be Time to Ditch It
Respected analyst Jon Peddie thinks it's time for Intel to pull the plug on Arc to stop the bleeding.www.extremetech.com
Intels loses for ARC were already 3.5 billion in 2022. ARC 580 is going to do nothing towards this.
The response from people just shows the entitledness of gamers. ARC may be cheap for a 12gb card with such a large die, but it has no future at this price point particularly when you consider Intel's financials. Without data center and with the increasing cost of wafers, the discrete market just doesn't have the legs of the CPU market. The dies are too big along with other added costs to create a videocard.
Did Intel have an option to use a mixed 2-1 as opposed to HP?
Yeah, 2-1 is an N3 thing.FinFlex was introduced with N3 as far as I am aware so I don’t think neither BM nor RDNA3 can be using a 2-1 library.
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Overclockers.co.uk has accepted my preorder.
Because of the shit shipping they use i should be getting mine around the 18-20th.
£249 if this thing delivers it will be awesome. You can barely get a 3060 for that money.
This must be country specific cause I can in Australia.You can barely get a 3060 for that money.
I am not interested in synthetics. If you are playing games, I'd be interested in what settings are playable for you in them, your experiences with hardware XeSS, that kind of stuff.I van chime in some MTL iGPU benchmarks if someone is interested with my MTL U9 185H
Sure i can do Hitman/division 2/shadow of war and many old games like Hitman Bloody MoneyI am not interested in synthetics. If you are playing games, I'd be interested in what settings are playable for you in them, your experiences with hardware XeSS, that kind of stuff.
Dec 12th for Intel reviews and 13th for third party card reviews.Any reviews out yet on these cards?
Wow, that’s expensive. More than $500AUD. Europeans are getting ripped off. Stupid taxesEuropean pricing smells currently: >300 eur https://geizhals.at/?fs=arc+b580&hloc=at. Let's hope the price comes closer to 249$ in EU too.
You need to learn what MSRP is and what Vat is.European pricing smells currently: >300 eur https://geizhals.at/?fs=arc+b580&hloc=at. Let's hope the price comes closer to 249$ in EU too.