now imagine a QA position at a game studioMan what a job, writing drivers....
....boss walks in, catches you playing games.
What are you doing?
Just testing the new drivers boss. There..see that crooked pixel...(points his finger at a 4k screen)... I NEED TO FIX THAT!
now imagine a QA position at a game studio
some people log thousands of hours on the same game (counted by steam for example), i don't think they hate the game they're playing.Working long hours, playing the same game over and over, trying methodically to break it instead of actually enjoy it... it's a good way to make yourself hate a game.
Working long hours, playing the same game over and over, trying methodically to break it instead of actually enjoy it... it's a good way to make yourself hate a game.
now imagine a QA position at a game studio
igorslab has a review of Gunner Iris Xe Max DG1. Seems to do fairly well. RX 550 class. Uses 20-30W depending on the game and the author figures the memory and the power losses to be about 10W so maybe 10-20W for the GPU.
He says the motherboard UEFI firmware has to be loaded into the NOR flash chip on the board before it works which means it doesn't have any GPU BIOS like a normal dGPU. So it's as we expected - Iris Xe integrated on a dGPU format.
Aren't the developers supposed to test if what they wrote is working as it should before handing it off to testers to check for other related issues? That would waste a lot of time if they change one line of code then ask the tester to test then again change and so on. Both would need to be sitting together or side by side for this process to work efficiently.Ive done that a few years ago, in fact i got my name in a few game credits as QA. Its a terrible job, trust me. Most of the time you are fighting a game that is in pre-alpha state, broken as hell, that crashes as hell, while you are trying to do X thing that is assigned to you over and over.
Its a good way to raise your blood pressure and die if you ask me.
WTH??? Who bought them and for what purpose? I didn't know there was market for complete useless crap. Must have been someone who had no idea what they were getting and just trusted the Intel name.BTW, i dont longer have any DG1, they sold out pretty fast, much to my surprise.
Aren't the developers supposed to test if what they wrote is working as it should before handing it off to testers to check for other related issues? That would waste a lot of time if they change one line of code then ask the tester to test then again change and so on. Both would need to be sitting together or side by side for this process to work efficiently.
WTH??? Who bought them and for what purpose? I didn't know there was market for complete useless crap. Must have been someone who had no idea what they were getting and just trusted the Intel name.
All pre-build pcs, we were not allowed to sell the gpus alone. They key was price, they were really cheap GT730 cheap, so it was a really cheap combo with the 10100F and 11400F.
Im petty sure Asus just wanted to get rid of them and that the real price should be more than that.
Aren't the developers supposed to test if what they wrote is working as it should before handing it off to testers to check for other related issues?
Igorslab review also says you can buy them at Taobao for $110 USD and the prices are "always increasing".
Guess Intel GPUs are subject to the GPU market pricing too.
@Shivansps Sounds to me like your DG1 was suffering from immature firmware issues? Good that this DG1 is not in a worse condition game compatibility wise than integrated Xe.
@Shivansps Still trying to wonder why there's a big difference between the DG1 you got and this one. Actually they also tested the other DG1 and it had horrible compatibility. And I don't mean horrible as some might say which is one out of 10 games don't work properly. No, they could barely get any game to work.
Mature firmware could be a culprit. Not sure why drivers can make that much of a difference since it's essentially the same chip as the integrated Iris Xe. At 95mm2 die it sounds like it's Tigerlake with all the CPU cores stripped out.
@Shivansps Still trying to wonder why there's a big difference between the DG1 you got and this one. Actually they also tested the other DG1 and it had horrible compatibility. And I don't mean horrible as some might say which is one out of 10 games don't work properly. No, they could barely get any game to work.
Did they say exactly what driver version they used? Because Intel website is a f* mess with that. Depending on how you search you may find at least 3 diferent drivers that looks to be the newerest one.
Possible SOC with 256 EUs and 128 bit bus(?).
Could it be similar scenario to 128 EU? In laptops 128 EU has 64 bit bus, on desktop 96 bit. Is it possible that in laptops 256 EU has 128 bit bus and on desktop - 192 bit?
The other DG1 was an engineering sample which was broken.
Intel needs WAY more work to be on par with AMD/Nvidia. They are kinda dysfunctional in that department. Software, hardware, developer relations, all have to be a huge notch up from where they are at right now.
The more I dig into this, the more I looked into Locuza's schematics of the die layouts, the more I did armchair calculations, the more I saw possibility that indeed 256 EU die would have 192 bit bus.Intel is very competent making numerous dies to maximize yield and profit margins. Two is a surprise. They've been focusing on modularity with Gen graphics for over a decade now.
If they wanted to, they could have 512, 384, 256, 192, 128 die versions and cut them down further.
They did use v1340, you can see this in the GPUz screenshot. It's not really a mess btw, the higher the build number the newer it is. For example the beta driver is old, it's obsolete. You can see this on the build number the last 4 digits.
Man what a job, writing drivers....
....boss walks in, catches you playing games.
What are you doing?
Just testing the new drivers boss. There..see that crooked pixel...(points his finger at a 4k screen)... I NEED TO FIX THAT!