Yes, because Intel should turn on a feature allowing consumers to more easily wreck their CPU and then RMA it at no extra cost.
Yes, because Intel should turn on a feature allowing consumers to more easily wreck their CPU and then RMA it at no extra cost.
- Intel Core i7 6700K 4760 MHz 101.3 x 47 @ 1.35v
When it comes to overclocking, I feel like I never get enough time to experiment and fine tune before a release. Finding the sweet spot of a specific chip requires a lot of time and patience, however the end result is worth it when you can squeeze that last drop of performance while running a stable system at acceptable thermal levels.
Overclocking on the new platform was a real pleasure, and the MSI Z170A Gaming M7 motherboard made the process even smoother. I opted for a manual overclock via the easy-to-navigate UEFI BIOS, and after a bit of trial and error, I settled for a very respectable and fully stable 4.762 GHz clock. Looking at the fine tuning options made available in the new platform for overclocking, I'm pretty sure I could've achieved higher numbers if I had a couple weeks to dedicate fully to this section of the review. In the meanwhile, an overclock of 760MHz over stock while keeping the voltage and heat levels under check is nothing to sneeze at.
Intel's 6th Gen Core i7-6700K Skylake CPU showed impressive performance across the board, pulling ahead of the Core i7-4770K and 4790K in the majority of benchmarks. The performance gains were mostly within the 10% range projected by Intel, which is an admirable feat considering that the Devil’s Canyon-based 4790K is a beast of a CPU in its own right.
I'm not saying they should add eDRAM on all products. But at least on the high end and maybe mid range desktop CPUs. After all you said it's cheap, and adds quite a lot performance. So then it definitely ought to be worth it. They could scale back on other stuff if they want to compensate for the cost, like having a few less EUs in the iGPU. The end result may be better that way, if eDRAM is as cheap and effective as you said.
They did that before, when they were earning way less than today.
Yes and the channels drowned in counterfeits.
Also, new record for quad-cores @ Geekbench?
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/3131444
OCed Core i7 6700K is almost breaking the 7.000 points mark @ single-thread.
But again, the production cost of a 6700K is around 20-25$.
You dont need unlocked CPUs to OC, we were fine with FSB overclocking in the P3/P4 and Core 2 Duo/Quad era
Why? For the same reason they should also add 8 cores?
Remember why there was only a BGA version with eDRAM for Haswell?
We gonna start seeing H models with 2x128MB.
128MB eDRAM at 22nm uses 940mW at idle. And the cost is round 3$. But again, the production cost of a 6700K is around 20-25$.
If you want eDRAM you just have to buy the C model.
Its called segmentation.
Sooner or later a large part will get eDRAM before the transition to fixed memory sizes with HMC/HBM. But a $ is still a $. Same reason why we see expensive Z170 boards with a crappy Realtek NIC so someone could save 50cents. Or why smartphone makers ship phones with memory amounts that will cripple them so you have to buy the next one.
From where did you get the 20-25$ figure? And does that include all R&D costs etc spread out over the number of units produced, or is it just the price of producing one die?
Also, so what you're saying now is that you're changing your mind again? I.e. eDRAM is not so cheap and effective after all, when compared to other options...? Because otherwise they would have prioritized it on more SKUs in favor of other stuff (e.g. having 4 EUs less or something like that).
Im ready to build.
Checklist
Z170 mobo Check
Ram Check
CPU CPU CPU ??
No cpu wtf
And your source for that $20-25 figure is what again?Its Intels base cost.
Well you can't both have the cake and eat it. Either eDRAM is cheap and effective, or it isn't.No, I am not changing my mind.
With BCLK being unlocked from the PCIe, etc. bus speed again, it will be interesting to see if the non-k Skylake chips can be overclocked with a compliant BIOS.
And your source for that $20-25 figure is what again?
Well you can't both have the cake and eat it. Either eDRAM is cheap and effective, or it isn't.
Now you're still saying it is cheap and effective, yet you think it's perfectly normal to only use it on very few specialized desktop SKUs.
Pick one of two please...
I can send you a handful of the CPU of your choosing
I however cant mind an ITX mobo I want. Maybe the Asus Z170I Pro Gaming. But Asus didnt give specs yet!
Yeah the only Mini ITX I see is the Evga Stinger. Remind me what is missing from that that you need?
M.2 for SSD. Plus they demand a hefty premium for a board without premium features. But last part I could have dealt with if it had the M.2 for SSDs.
Have you seen this page not sure when everything will be announced and available.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9485/...rock-asus-gigabyte-msi-ecs-evga-supermicro/11
That's tiny, and they're asking $350 in i7 form for that. I guess the 14nm process and additional R&D are getting ridiculously expensive at this point.