Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

[Sweepr]

Eurogamer's Intel Kaby Lake: Core i5 7600K review

Eurogamer's review is up. Some remarks:

Clock-for-clock, with all processors equalised to 4.2GHz, Skylake and Kaby Lake offer an average improvement of around 30 per cent (vs Sandy Bridge) in terms of gaming frame-rates - and this extends to lowest recorded frame-rates too, where the difference is most keenly felt.

To illustrate the relationship between memory bandwidth and processor performance, we re-ran all of our gaming benchmarks with the Core i5 7600K running at stock clocks and overclocked to 4.8GHz. We ran each title with our Corsair modules running at 2133MHz, 2400MHz and their max rated 3000MHz. The results can be remarkable. An overclocked i5 running at 4.8GHz with 2133MHz modules can be beaten in some scenarios by the i5 running at stock speeds with 3000MHz DDR4.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-core-i5-7600k-review

When is Kaby Lake coming to retailers? Looking to pick up a G4600 and H270 mobo.

Starting friday (Jan 6) it will be available. From what I heard, maybe a few more weeks till Celeron/Pentium hit retail.

 

[LTC8K6]

KL has been at Amazon from the get-go...

 

[jana519]

KL has been at Amazon from the get-go...

The desktop processors from 3rd party sellers for $100 over retail? Not sure if you're trolling...

 

[RichUK]

Not sure if this has been posted https://rog.asus.com/articles/maxim...est-maximus-ix-and-strix-gaming-motherboards/

 

[phillyman36]

Got my i7 7700k from Amazon today. Still can't find a z270 mobo(Asus Maximus IX Hero).

 

[nvgpu]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10998/ces-2017-intel-press-event-live-blog

"Brian is holding a Canonlake (10nm) equipped laptop
First time Intel has shown a live 10nm demo
Intend to ship products before the end of 2017"

Haters got a nice slap in the face by Intel.

 

[Sweepr]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10998/ces-2017-intel-press-event-live-blog

"Brian is holding a Canonlake (10nm) equipped laptop
First time Intel has shown a live 10nm demo
Intend to ship products before the end of 2017"

Haters got a nice slap in the face by Intel.

Nice find. Intel's notebook roadmap is certainly looking bright with 10nm CNL-Y/CNL-U 2+2 and KBL-U 4+2 set to launch this year, followed by the long awaited CFL-H 6+2 (first mobile hexa-core) and CFL-U 4+3e SKUs.

https://twitter.com/intel/status/816799651139612673

 

[LTC8K6]

The desktop processors from 3rd party sellers for $100 over retail? Not sure if you're trolling...

Nope $350 for a 7700K from Amazon at the time I typed the message. Had been in stock since the get-go. There were 7700 and several i5 chips as well.

They were all in stock for more than a whole day.

 

[Maxima1]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10998/ces-2017-intel-press-event-live-blog

"Brian is holding a Canonlake (10nm) equipped laptop
First time Intel has shown a live 10nm demo
Intend to ship products before the end of 2017"

Haters got a nice slap in the face by Intel.

Uh, how is this new? It was already indicated that CNL was late 2017 and CFL later in 2018.

 

[Gorbugal]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10998/ces-2017-intel-press-event-live-blog
Haters got a nice slap in the face by Intel.

Well thought out, mature analysis as always. I'm sure the "haterz" will feel duly chastened.

" Sweepr likes this "... Well would you look at that.

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[DrMrLordX]

For the that overall target price segment who has the better iGPU is really irrelevant.

If you say so. Personally I have quite enjoyed the 7870k experience, and were in not for the small l2 cache I'll bet Bristol Ridge would have been a nice upgrade. Moving from my sub-$100 7870k to a $60 G4560 would net me more CPU performance, but I'm sure I'd see a decline in graphics quality versus a switch to BR.

Kudos to Intel for making it possible to actually buy the G4560 though. Bristol Ridge may as well not exist, as far as I'm concerned.

When the market is shrinking, you try to take as much volume as you can, especially if it can be done with relatively simple segmentation actions like enabling HT on a Pentium

In Intel's case, it's more like maintaining volume/market share.

Did they?

I think they did. HT is basically on everything except i5s now. That's going to have a pretty big impact on gaming performance, at a minimum. That was a major defining difference between the i3 and Celeron/Pentium, and now it's gone. i3 now has to set itself apart (at least as a desktop part) via clockspeed and features.

Its easy, Broadwell C makes SKL and KL look bad in comparison, considering the first one is a tock, and the second one a new stepping+updated uncore.

Broadwell C at normal K cpu prices would have been a killer of a deal for gaming.

While I still appreciateBroadwell-C, please remember that:

1). BIOS/UEFI support for that chip is iffy. Caveat emptor
2). Some folks can actually push clockspeeds as high as 4.8 GHz with those things, but 4.2 GHz is more common for a lot of overclockers (unfortunately)
3). It is now missing some CPU and platform features that are present on Kaby

I would like to see what a 4.8 GHz i7-7700k can do in games vs a 4.2 GHz i7-5775c, I just don't expect to see that comparison anytime soon.

Haters got a nice slap in the face by Intel.

I'm not sure what to make of that. If 10nm is mature enough for them to demo a Cannonlake laptop now, what's the issue with 10nm for desktop in 2018? Why aren't we going to see 10nm Coffeelake-S?

 

[jpiniero]

I'm not sure what to make of that. If 10nm is mature enough for them to demo a Cannonlake laptop now, what's the issue with 10nm for desktop in 2018?

There's a bunch of factors, which pretty much boil down to it was cheaper.

 

[Sweepr]

Well thought out, mature analysis as always. I'm sure the "haterz" will feel duly chastened.

" Sweepr likes this "... Well would you look at that.

I did appreciate the fact that we will have 10nm from Intel in any form this year. Apparently this bothers you for some reason, well would you look at that.

 

[happy medium]

I did appreciate the fact that we will have 10nm from Intel in any form this year. Apparently this bothers you for some reason, now well would you look at that.

I'm just hoping for 10nm Coffee Lake on socket 1151 with 6 cores.
If not, why did I buy this motherboard? They give me 6700k performance and that's it?

 

[DrMrLordX]

I'm not sure if Coffeelake will ever be 10nm. The first 10nm desktop CPU may well be Icelake.

 

[Sweepr]

I'm just hoping for 10nm Coffee Lake on socket 1151 with 6 cores.
If not, why did I buy this motherboard? They give me 6700k performance and that's it?

Curious about Coffee Lake-S socket and chipset compatibility here. I think it's most likely still LGA 1151. Then Ice Lake-S incorporates the FIVR once again later on (new socket required).

 

[Arachnotronic]

I'm not sure if Coffeelake will ever be 10nm. The first 10nm desktop CPU may well be Icelake.

Coffee Lake is based on a 14nm derivative. Not clear if it is 14nm+ or 14nm++ yet.

 

[chucky2]

Well, it's HDMI 2.0a and those specs were only released in 2Q15. It adds HDR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video
http://www.twice.com/news/trade-groups/hdmi-20a-spec-released-hdr-capability-added/56694

Are you saying KL really does have native HDMI 2.0 support?

 

[jana519]

Nope $350 for a 7700K from Amazon at the time I typed the message. Had been in stock since the get-go. There were 7700 and several i5 chips as well.

They were all in stock for more than a whole day.

Can you link to where you're finding these? I'm amazed that they're not showing up in my search results.

 

[Bouowmx]

Can you link to where you're finding these? I'm amazed that they're not showing up in my search results.

Intel appears to have removed Kaby Lake from Amazon right now.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Intel appears to have removed Kaby Lake from Amazon right now.

That or Amazon's search is just being messed up as usual...

 

[phillyman36]

Some of the Asus z270 mobo are up on Amazon. I just ordered a Maximus Hero IX. Amazon doesnt seem to have the I7 7700k listed anymore so maybe they sold out but i can confirm they were up there $350 + $21 tax $371.00 total

 

[jana519]

Pulled from Amazon until the 5th or TBD?

Weird.

 

[CakeMonster]

Uh, how is this new? It was already indicated that CNL was late 2017 and CFL later in 2018.

Will there be desktop chips with CNL?

 

[LTC8K6]

Can you link to where you're finding these? I'm amazed that they're not showing up in my search results.

They either sold out fast, or Amazon wasn't supposed to have them for sale.

They are not listed any more.