I can guarantee you that I've taking far more science, biology, physics, mathematic courses than you My thought? All life on this planet was genetically engineered by aliens.
You go right ahead and believe in your theory of evolution.
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
"Intelligent Design" is a steaming pile of horse poop. Proponents of it invariable just attack evolution, as opposed to providing scientific evidence to support their ideas.
I don't agree with that - I don't think the support their theory by attacking evolution theory. And the last I checked, evolution was just that ... a theory!
Good gawd man! WTF is wrong with you?! Take ONE science class, and ONE bio class, and then READ this *effing* thread. Are you mildly retarded or just stupid?
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
"Intelligent Design" is a steaming pile of horse poop. Proponents of it invariable just attack evolution, as opposed to providing scientific evidence to support their ideas.
I don't agree with that - I don't think the support their theory by attacking evolution theory. And the last I checked, evolution was just that ... a theory!
Good gawd man! WTF is wrong with you?! Take ONE science class, and ONE bio class, and then READ this *effing* thread. Are you mildly retarded or just stupid?
I can guarantee you that I've taking far more science, biology, physics, mathematic courses than you My thought? All life on this planet was genetically engineered by aliens.
You go right ahead and believe in your theory of evolution.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
"Intelligent Design" is a steaming pile of horse poop. Proponents of it invariable just attack evolution, as opposed to providing scientific evidence to support their ideas.
I don't agree with that - I don't think the support their theory by attacking evolution theory. And the last I checked, evolution was just that ... a theory!
Good gawd man! WTF is wrong with you?! Take ONE science class, and ONE bio class, and then READ this *effing* thread. Are you mildly retarded or just stupid?
I can guarantee you that I've taking far more science, biology, physics, mathematic courses than you My thought? All life on this planet was genetically engineered by aliens.
Originally posted by: xSauronx
wtf?
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: xSauronx
wtf?
What's confusing? What happens when man (us) begins to genetically engineer and design life? Now, we have a potential problem. We have some life, according to you, evolved, without any intervention of some sort of intelligent design. Then, we have the life we've designed mixed into the pool. Man will design and create life. I have no doubt it will happen.
What I can't believe, is that all life on this planet just evolved out of nothing, without any sort of intelligent design.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
"Intelligent Design" is a steaming pile of horse poop. Proponents of it invariable just attack evolution, as opposed to providing scientific evidence to support their ideas.
I don't agree with that - I don't think the support their theory by attacking evolution theory. And the last I checked, evolution was just that ... a theory!
Good gawd man! WTF is wrong with you?! Take ONE science class, and ONE bio class, and then READ this *effing* thread. Are you mildly retarded or just stupid?
I can guarantee you that I've taking far more science, biology, physics, mathematic courses than you My thought? All life on this planet was genetically engineered by aliens.
You go right ahead and believe in your theory of evolution.
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Life didn't exist 55 million years ago. It couldn't. The sun has been shrinking since we have been charting it. Reverse the size of the sun, back it up a few million years and you find the planet was too hot to sustain any form of life, thus disproving the possibility of evolution. 55 million years ago... not a chance. Science can prove that. Now let's see what the evolutionist say. Will it be: We're not sure where the sun really was (excuse), or the sun just recently started shrinking (contradicts science) or ... ???
Show me peer review article stating the sun was too hot to sustain organic chemicals
LOL
You're trying to prove your point and you can't. Life can only live in certain temperatures. Probably why Venus has no life on it.
But you can't prove me wrong... cause life couldn't have been around then. Check your math on the sun's rate of decline and estimate the temp of the Earth.
Hot!! hehehe Game, set, and match.
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
That's hard to believe when you can make the statement "it's just a theory."
Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
You should have spent more of your time studying biology, you seem to know little about it. There is a very good chance that life developed from simple molecules and gases, look at the experiment Stanley Miller did as a grad student over 50 years ago; that's how long we've had a good idea life evolved from simple molecules.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
You should have spent more of your time studying biology, you seem to know little about it. There is a very good chance that life developed from simple molecules and gases, look at the experiment Stanley Miller did as a grad student over 50 years ago; that's how long we've had a good idea life evolved from simple molecules.
Right, I totally understand that life could have developed from simple molecules & gases. It however doesn't prove evolutionary theory in my book - maybe it does for others. Your call.
Aren't we already manipulating genes in vegetables to make them more colorful or something like that? Suppose the whole planet died today, and some alien started doing research on it. Are they going to say that the vegetable evolved to more appealing to those that want to eat it? We manipulated the genes for a purpose and I find it hard to believe that the genes of other life on this planet wasn't manipulated by some sort of intelligence to serve a purpose or design.
PS - I do have a MS in Physics and I don't need to provide proof to some of you that are probably pumping gas into my car
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
You should have spent more of your time studying biology, you seem to know little about it. There is a very good chance that life developed from simple molecules and gases, look at the experiment Stanley Miller did as a grad student over 50 years ago; that's how long we've had a good idea life evolved from simple molecules.
Right, I totally understand that life could have developed from simple molecules & gases. It however doesn't prove evolutionary theory in my book - maybe it does for others. Your call.
Aren't we already manipulating genes in vegetables to make them more colorful or something like that? Suppose the whole planet died today, and some alien started doing research on it. Are they going to say that the vegetable evolved to more appealing to those that want to eat it? We manipulated the genes for a purpose and I find it hard to believe that the genes of other life on this planet wasn't manipulated by some sort of intelligence to serve a purpose or design.
PS - I do have a MS in Physics and I don't need to provide proof to some of you that are probably pumping gas into my car
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: MrK6
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: homercles337
Shens. I want proof. Post pics of your "degrees" with "A-T-O-T" mention (preferably towards me: homercles) and i will return in same. With BA, MA, Phd proof. Enjoy your relegation to obscurity.
MS in Physics. If you want more proof than that, then you'll have to pay me.
You should have spent more of your time studying biology, you seem to know little about it. There is a very good chance that life developed from simple molecules and gases, look at the experiment Stanley Miller did as a grad student over 50 years ago; that's how long we've had a good idea life evolved from simple molecules.
Right, I totally understand that life could have developed from simple molecules & gases. It however doesn't prove evolutionary theory in my book - maybe it does for others. Your call.
Aren't we already manipulating genes in vegetables to make them more colorful or something like that? Suppose the whole planet died today, and some alien started doing research on it. Are they going to say that the vegetable evolved to more appealing to those that want to eat it? We manipulated the genes for a purpose and I find it hard to believe that the genes of other life on this planet wasn't manipulated by some sort of intelligence to serve a purpose or design.
PS - I do have a MS in Physics and I don't need to provide proof to some of you that are probably pumping gas into my car
You're free to adopt this point of view but what would be the point? THis would be the equivalent of an early physicist observing the way objects move in the air then saying: "God probably had something to do with it, everytime an object is moving in the air, god is making it move. The atoms in our body? God is making them spin." when you use supernatural agencies to explain why natural phenomena are the way they are, you are violating the essence of science. ID/Creationism has zero predictive value. we can not anticipate what god will do to populations, animals, plants as environments change because we obviously can not predict the actions of god any more than a plant can predict the actions of man. how boring would physics be if we explained every force, every interaction as merely god and relinquished any effort of predicting the behavior of objects?
BUT, if we use natural selection as the mechanism of evolution, we can use it to predict how populations, gene frequencies, rates of evolution, shift with changing environments. We can observe these predicted changes within populations (albeit minute changes). It is the prediction of evolution that we can explain antibiotic resistant bacteria, prevelance of sickle cell in africa, immunity to smallpox of the colonial europe population but vulnerabilty by the native americans.
Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: ironwing
More evidence supporting my position.
I don't get it. It's a map?
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
As someone who has a BS in Biochemistry, a MS degree, and is currently pursuing further grad work in molecular bio, this thread makes for a good chuckle. When I was younger I would argue till I was blue in the face w/ people, but I eventually figured out it is worthless. The proponents for ID and Creation either don't have the exposure to the science, which is evident by them simply not understanding what a "theory" is let alone the mountains of evidence the supports it. And it is far too much for them to pick up a book on the subject. I have read Behe's book along w/ a couple of others on the subject and the science in them is laughable.
I was once talking w/ a fellow grad student (physicist i believe)on the subject, and he was a born again. He basically put this was, which I respected, he said he knew about all the evidence but that he just couldn't accpet it b/c he knew whwt it meant to the creationists. Instead he choose to ignore it, or believe it was put there to lead us on the wrong path. Hey, at least he was honest. I refuse to believe however, if there is a god, he/she/it put fossils on this planet to mislead us. You will never be able to convince the purple KoolAid drinkers out there, they are indeed brainwashed - which is mighty evident through this thread. It is their opinion, let them have it - the people who need to know do.
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
As someone who has a BS in Biochemistry, a MS degree, and is currently pursuing further grad work in molecular bio, this thread makes for a good chuckle. When I was younger I would argue till I was blue in the face w/ people, but I eventually figured out it is worthless. The proponents for ID and Creation either don't have the exposure to the science, which is evident by them simply not understanding what a "theory" is let alone the mountains of evidence the supports it. And it is far too much for them to pick up a book on the I have read Behe's book along w/ a couple of others on the subject and thesubject. science in them is laughable.
I was once talking w/ a fellow grad student (physicist i believe)on the subject, and he was a born again. He basically put this was, which I respected, he said he knew about all the evidence but that he just couldn't accpet it b/c he knew whwt it meant to the creationists. Instead he choose to ignore it, or believe it was put there to lead us on the wrong path. Hey, at least he was honest. I refuse to believe however, if there is a god, he/she/it put fossils on this planet to mislead us. You will never be able to convince the purple KoolAid drinkers out there, they are indeed brainwashed - which is mighty evident through this thread. It is their opinion, let them have it - the people who need to know do.