Intel's Pentium 4 600 series

[Zebo]

http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q1/pentium4-600/index.x?pg=1

Meh..not much of anything gained over 5xx. Power consumption is a little better.

 

[ribbon13]

"Not even the software renderer is able to use the extra cache to any advantage. That's just cold."

Awesome. Hahahaha!

 

[ribbon13]

page 10...
My my my...

I thought Premiere was supposed to be Intel optimized

page 11..
AMD wins in photoshop too! nice!

page 12.
Even in the hot highly debated 'multitasking' issue, Intel loses.

page 15
This is why I have a dual opteron...

Nice.. thanks Zebo

 

[Zebo]

64 bitness is pretty bad too. 2.0 A64 serverly beats up 3.0 6xx.

http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/cpu/p46xx/p46xx-5.htm

 

[ribbon13]

Et Intel est rendu un mouton châtré!

 

[stevty2889]

The only thing I really got out of that, is that a Dual core pentium-M @2.4ghz would be pretty nice...

 

[christoph83]

The 2mb cache didn't really help that much in areas it needed to improve. It did give it a 1-5% boost in apps it already had leads in.

One of the most eyecatching things i saw as power consumtion. Despite having more cache these chips use less power.
These chips might overclock well too. According to that x86 review, they hit 3.6ghz stock voltage, 4ghz at 1.45v, and 4.3ghz at 1.6v. They were using an ES sample though.

All in all though, it still falls up short.

 

[Duvie]

In xbits review the p4ee based on the older northwood (gallatin) core and clocked slower at 3.46ghz beat the 3.73ghz in quite a few of the test....Pretty sad but that obvioulsy is a product of the too long of a pipeline....

 

[Zebo]

Northwood owns.. I have no idea why they switched.

 

[Duvie]

Even ion this review there is a stunning example in apps that cant be manipulated with coding to hide it...the northwood core flat out kicks the crap out of the prescott....Unbelieveable...In some appsi ran simlar test on with my 2.4c@3.5 I was above the 3.46EE and thus beating that 3.73ghz most of the time....I say embarassing considering 3.8ghz 600 series about never one over a 333mhz slower cpu........

man I would like one of those p4m 2.4ghz and oc it to 3.0ghz....I bet it would be spectacular. Though I noticed some grey areas in performance... I aslo noticed those with my 1.5 p4m centrino laptop...usually in apps that flat out love mhz period....

 

[Zebo]

man I would like one of those p4m 2.4ghz and oc it to 3.0ghz....I bet it would be spectacular. Though I noticed some grey areas in performance... I aslo noticed those with my 1.5 p4m centrino laptop...usually in apps that flat out love mhz period....

THose 2.4 is already overclcoked. Still a non-Oced 4000 (same speed) beats it in majority of tests. It's really not fair to the stock processor to compare OC to non-OC, anyway.. For example; I can Beat and FX-55 with a winchester@2.6 in almost every bench due to OC bus/mem to get there. Nevertheless, the A64's school it in 3/4 of tests at same speed. 915 should make things better though for PM. Still, after seeing anands and techreports review I became a little less enamoured with the PM. Next year, things will get interesting IMO.

You're also assuming the PM's will clock to 3.0 on air like some clawhammers too. Maybe. Maybe not Either way, not ready for prime time on desktop until it gets some features.. like Dual channel full bandwidth DDR and A64 extensions. Then I think you'll see a sweet competitor... Beating AMD 64?...

 

[Duvie]

I didn't realize it was already an oc'd chip...I assumed that was a stock piece and 3.0ghz was being ambition in its own right to get a 25% oc out of it......

My system ( in test I can compare without vid cards playing into it) beats the FX55 as well.....That is nice for 1/6th the price....

Damn I want dual opteron 244's oc'd to 250+ level for some real workstation lovin!!!! Wishful thinkin aside!!! i may go back to a Intel setup to get this if AMD lolligags on the dual cores!!!

 

[1stoff]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Even ion this review there is a stunning example in apps that cant be manipulated with coding to hide it...the northwood core flat out kicks the crap out of the prescott....Unbelieveable...In some appsi ran simlar test on with my 2.4c@3.5 I was above the 3.46EE and thus beating that 3.73ghz most of the time....I say embarassing considering 3.8ghz 600 series about never one over a 333mhz slower cpu........

man I would like one of those p4m 2.4ghz and oc it to 3.0ghz....I bet it would be spectacular. Though I noticed some grey areas in performance... I aslo noticed those with my 1.5 p4m centrino laptop...usually in apps that flat out love mhz period....

i agree, unfortunately if I or anyone else posted this in the OCAU intel forumn a certain admin called chainbolt would either delete your post, harrangue (sp?) you to the point of just giving up, or try and get you banned (it has happened to me :frown

edit: forgot to mention that OCAU is the most popular page in OZ

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: 1stoff

Originally posted by: Duvie
Even ion this review there is a stunning example in apps that cant be manipulated with coding to hide it...the northwood core flat out kicks the crap out of the prescott....Unbelieveable...In some appsi ran simlar test on with my 2.4c@3.5 I was above the 3.46EE and thus beating that 3.73ghz most of the time....I say embarassing considering 3.8ghz 600 series about never one over a 333mhz slower cpu........

man I would like one of those p4m 2.4ghz and oc it to 3.0ghz....I bet it would be spectacular. Though I noticed some grey areas in performance... I aslo noticed those with my 1.5 p4m centrino laptop...usually in apps that flat out love mhz period....

i agree, unfortunately if I or anyone else posted this in the OCAU intel forumn a certain admin called chainbolt would either delete your post, harrangue (sp?) you to the point of just giving up, or try and get you banned (it has happened to me :frown

edit: forgot to mention that OCAU is the most popular page in OZ

So much for fanatics who cant see past their allegiances...I look at the numbers and they tell the story.....I was Intel for 3 years and just came back to AMD 2-1/2 months ago...May stay may go, but as of now I see no reason to go back to Intel.....Nothing is impressing me...

Maybe I will register over there and get that prick riled up....Link me please!!!!

 

[Duvie]

Lets all go to OCAU and start some shite!!! I just posted and called out the fanboy.....

 

[1stoff]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Lets all go to OCAU and start some shite!!! I just posted and called out the fanboy.....

unfortunately not just a fanboy but IMHO in need of professional help, how to ruin the best site in OZ :brokenheart:

 

[Zebo]

Screw them. You have to be registered to even see thier forums, no lurking. I can tell already they have anal tendencies..

 

[Zebo]

Hey chainbolts registered here too defending presshot.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1243705&enterthread=y&arctab=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1246897&enterthread=y&arctab=y

 

[ribbon13]

Intel is great. They keeps my relatives in the mother country warm.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Hey chainbolts registered here too defending presshot.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1243705&enterthread=y&arctab=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1246897&enterthread=y&arctab=y

Actually that is not him......That guy is from Uganda and he is in Tokyo...He said he has never registered here as chainbolt....

 

[ribbon13]

For anyone who doesn't understand the french... it means 'Intel has been rendered a castrated sheep'

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Intel is great. They keeps my relatives in the mother country warm.

Siberian Heater rev 2.0. (in all fairness so was my A-XP when overclocked)

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
page 10...
My my my...

I thought Premiere was supposed to be Intel optimized

page 11..
AMD wins in photoshop too! nice!

page 12.
Even in the hot highly debated 'multitasking' issue, Intel loses.

page 15
This is why I have a dual opteron...

Nice.. thanks Zebo

Oh yeah a dual Xeon couldnt beat a single pentium 4 either :roll:

 

[clarkey01]

I was never a fan of preshott. Its too bad Intel didnt scramble and bring northwood down to 90 nm. Im sure they knew well in advance that there were thermal and performance issues with prescott.

With 90 nm there would be a little more headroom, maybe the majority of the heat would still be there, but with a few twaeks, maybe add a few pipelines(not to the insane 31 stage there is in prescott) it could have had a nice performance jump.

One might say Intel were'nt too bothered as they knew while performance wasnt the greatest it'd still sell.

 

[LTC8K6]

Its too bad Intel didnt scramble and bring northwood down to 90 nm

A 90nm Northwood would not have changed anything, imo. A "3.8C" would do no better against the A64 than the 3.8E does. It might run cooler, but it wouldn't win any more benches.

A 90nm "3.8C" would still run a lot hotter than an A64, so even that argument wouldn't change.