Interesting info on John Kerry.

Brutuskend

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Heinz - Made in Mexico Shortly after reading the following e-mail content, I happened to look at the label of a jar of Heinz sandwich slice pickles. Yep.... "Made in Mexico" Check some of your Heinz products. "Sen. John Kerry keeps talking about U.S. corporations leaving this country and setting up shop in foreign countries, taking thousands of jobs with them. He is right, because that has happened. However, he is trying to blame it on George W. Bush. As far as I know, Bush has not moved one factory out of this country because he is not the owner of a single factory. That cannot be said about Kerry and
his wife, Teresa Heinz-Kerry. According to the Wall Street Journal,
the Kerry?s own 32 factories in Europe and 18 in Asia and the Pacific.

In addition, their company, the Heinz Company, leases four factories in
Europe and four in Asia. Also, they own 27 factories in North America,
some of which are in Mexico and the Caribbean. 80% of Heinz products are
made overseas.

I wonder how many hundreds of American workers lost their jobs when these plants relocated in foreign countries. I also wonder if the workers in Mexico and Asia are paid the same wages and benefits as workers in the United States.

Of course they're not. However, Kerry demands that other companies that relocate should pay the same benefits they did in the U.S. Why does he not demand this of the Heinz Company, since he is married to the owner? If Kerry is elected, will he and his wife close all those foreign factories and bring all those jobs back to America? Of course they won't. They're making millions off that cheap labor.
 

Ozoned

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Kerry already adressed this. If I remember right it was something like this;

'Even though we own these factories we don't really own them'.
 

digitalsm

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Heinz Co is no way affliated with Kerry or his wife. His wife does own a 3% stake in the company, and the compay has the name of her late husband, but the Heinz family has not been involved in the companies operation in over a decade.

The person that has real clout in Heinz is the single largest share holder billionaire, former CEO Chairman of HJ Heinz, Anthony O'Reilly. He also owns controlling shares of Independent Newspapers, as well as a large stake in the company that owns Waterford Wedgewood(Waterford Crystal). He also owns a mining company is Ireland.

As for the Heinz Co having plants around the world. They are an international company that sell products in 200 countries. Their American brands are Heinz 57, Weight Watchers, Budget Gourmet, Starkist, 9-Lives, Ken-L Rations. Their over seas brands are Orlando, Wattie's, Olivine, Farley's, Plasmon, and Guloso.
 

illustri

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true above, but im sure he's not complaining about the profits gained from outsourcing
 

tnitsuj

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Teresa Heinz has nothing to do with the management of the Heinz company. She does not own it.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Heinz Co is no way affliated with Kerry or his wife. His wife does own a 3% stake in the company, and the compay has the name of her late husband, but the Heinz family has not been involved in the companies operation in over a decade.



The person that has real clout in Heinz is the single largest share holder billionaire, CEO Chairman of HJ Heinz, Anthony O'Reilly. He also owns controlling shares of Independent Newspapers, as well as a large stake in the company that owns Waterford Wedgewood(Waterford Crystal). He also owns a mining company is Ireland.



As for the Heinz Co having plants around the world. They are an international company that sell products in 200 countries. Their American brands are Heinz 57, Weight Watchers, Budget Gourmet, Starkist, 9-Lives, Ken-L Rations. Their over seas brands are Orlando, Wattie's, Olivine, Farley's, Plasmon, and Guloso.

And somehow Heinz is getting a pass on offshoring manufacturing, while other companies get slammed for doing the same thing.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: digitalsm
Heinz Co is no way affliated with Kerry or his wife. His wife does own a 3% stake in the company, and the compay has the name of her late husband, but the Heinz family has not been involved in the companies operation in over a decade.



The person that has real clout in Heinz is the single largest share holder billionaire, CEO Chairman of HJ Heinz, Anthony O'Reilly. He also owns controlling shares of Independent Newspapers, as well as a large stake in the company that owns Waterford Wedgewood(Waterford Crystal). He also owns a mining company is Ireland.



As for the Heinz Co having plants around the world. They are an international company that sell products in 200 countries. Their American brands are Heinz 57, Weight Watchers, Budget Gourmet, Starkist, 9-Lives, Ken-L Rations. Their over seas brands are Orlando, Wattie's, Olivine, Farley's, Plasmon, and Guloso.

And somehow Heinz is getting a pass on offshoring manufacturing, while other companies get slammed for doing the same thing.

International companies shouldnt be slammed. Almost all of the products Heinz's makes over seas are sold over seas. Its not like companies outsourcing american customers tech support to some village in India. Or American car companies out sourcing different parts, to different countries.

 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Thanks for the info!

I'll send this along to the friend that sent ME this bogus heads up!

It was poor journalism. Not really your friends fault. Alot of the media called Heinz Kerry a major sharehold, which simply was not the case. I even believed she was because of the media. HJ Heinz made it well known after that, that she and her husband are no way affilated with the HJ Heinz Co. If you look up the Heinz exectuives on one of the campagin donor lists, its almost ALL donations to Bush. HJ Heinz III was a republican as well.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Heinz Co is no way affliated with Kerry or his wife. His wife does own a 3% stake in the company, and the compay has the name of her late husband, but the Heinz family has not been involved in the companies operation in over a decade.







The person that has real clout in Heinz is the single largest share holder billionaire, CEO Chairman of HJ Heinz, Anthony O'Reilly. He also owns controlling shares of Independent Newspapers, as well as a large stake in the company that owns Waterford Wedgewood(Waterford Crystal). He also owns a mining company is Ireland.







As for the Heinz Co having plants around the world. They are an international company that sell products in 200 countries. Their American brands are Heinz 57, Weight Watchers, Budget Gourmet, Starkist, 9-Lives, Ken-L Rations. Their over seas brands are Orlando, Wattie's, Olivine, Farley's, Plasmon, and Guloso.



And somehow Heinz is getting a pass on offshoring manufacturing, while other companies get slammed for doing the same thing.



International companies shouldnt be slammed. Almost all of the products Heinz's makes over seas are sold over seas. Its not like companies outsourcing american customers tech support to some village in India. Or American car companies out sourcing different parts, to different countries.

The same could be said for almost any product that is made outside the country by almost any company.

As long as the countrys people buys the product that is being made, in the end it is ok. Right?
 
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Originally posted by: digitalsm



International companies shouldnt be slammed. Almost all of the products Heinz's makes over seas are sold over seas. Its not like companies outsourcing american customers tech support to some village in India. Or American car companies out sourcing different parts, to different countries.

Have you checked into where all their factories are? ...couple are in quite 'interesting' places.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: digitalsm







International companies shouldnt be slammed. Almost all of the products Heinz's makes over seas are sold over seas. Its not like companies outsourcing american customers tech support to some village in India. Or American car companies out sourcing different parts, to different countries.



Have you checked into where all their factories are? ...couple are in quite 'interesting' places.

Are you going to make us guess?
 

Ozoned

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3.5% of the current outstanding shares at current value would be worth approximately$500,000,000

 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: charrison



Are you going to make us guess?



Yes, I can't tell you; I work with their data...and MNC who's name begins with A,H,E,P.

HJ Heinz and companies/factories it owns are located in the following.

China, Venezuela, Costa Rica, India, Indoniesia, Phillipines, Hong Kong, Botswana, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Singapore, Australia, New Zeland, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, UK, Ireland, Greece, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, Portagual, Canada, and the USA.

Im sure Ive left out a few countries, but thats the majority of them.

I forgot Poland, Russia, Eygpt, and Israel. Also it appears Mexico does NOT have a Heinz factory.
 
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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: charrison







Are you going to make us guess?







Yes, I can't tell you; I work with their data...and MNC who's name begins with A,H,E,P.



HJ Heinz and companies/factories it owns are located in the following.



China, Venezuela, Costa Rica, India, Indoniesia, Phillipines, Hong Kong, Botswana, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Singapore, Australia, New Zeland, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, UK, Ireland, Greece, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, Portagual, Canada, and the USA.



Im sure Ive left out a few countries, but thats the majority of them.


The factories that I was speaking to are not reported in their 10-K/Edgar, if that's where you pulled your listing...
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx



Originally posted by: charrison














Are you going to make us guess?















Yes, I can't tell you; I work with their data...and MNC who's name begins with A,H,E,P.







HJ Heinz and companies/factories it owns are located in the following.







China, Venezuela, Costa Rica, India, Indoniesia, Phillipines, Hong Kong, Botswana, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Singapore, Australia, New Zeland, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, UK, Ireland, Greece, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain, Portagual, Canada, and the USA.







Im sure Ive left out a few countries, but thats the majority of them.





The factories that I was speaking to are not reported in their 10-K/Edgar, if that's where you pulled your listing...


No thats not where I pulled them. It really doesnt matter where their factories are. They are ALL over the world. And the seem to buy more around the world every couple of years.

Basically you are alleging Heinz has some "off the books" factories, I'm sure their investors and the SEC would like to know of such fraud.
 
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Originally posted by: digitalsm

Basically you are alleging Heinz has some "off the books" factories, I'm sure their investors and the SEC would like to know of such fraud.

"off the books?"...they do report on these, as I clearly stated above. Moreover, more often than not, corporations setup foreign holding companies to make their overseas acquisitions...the deeper you probe, the more convoluted it becomes, for obvious reasons
 

Mean MrMustard

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Heinz Co is no way affliated with Kerry or his wife. His wife does own a 3% stake in the company, and the compay has the name of her late husband, but the Heinz family has not been involved in the companies operation in over a decade.



The person that has real clout in Heinz is the single largest share holder billionaire, former CEO Chairman of HJ Heinz, Anthony O'Reilly. He also owns controlling shares of Independent Newspapers, as well as a large stake in the company that owns Waterford Wedgewood(Waterford Crystal). He also owns a mining company is Ireland.



As for the Heinz Co having plants around the world. They are an international company that sell products in 200 countries. Their American brands are Heinz 57, Weight Watchers, Budget Gourmet, Starkist, 9-Lives, Ken-L Rations. Their over seas brands are Orlando, Wattie's, Olivine, Farley's, Plasmon, and Guloso.

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XZeroII

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: digitalsm



Basically you are alleging ....



This is the problem with AT P&N...take off your tinfoil hate and stop looking for the black helicopters all the time.

hahahaha. It's so true!
 

TheBoyBlunder

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
~snip~

Um...did it occur to you that maybe it's cheaper to produce a product near its eventual market, rather than ship it from the US to, say, Japan or England or someplace else that's not North America?

I will admit I don't know where Heinz products for the US are made. Brutuskend finding a whole 1 thing of ketchup that was made in Mexico does not prove that all Heinz products for the US are made in Mexico.
 

ChappyChaps11

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Thats interesting if thats actually true. Hes promising tons of jobs, and if the factories are his maybe he plans to move some of them into the US to employ people. In which case hes a dick for not doing it anyway.
 

fjord

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HJ Heinz is a strong supporter of the Bush campaign for re-election.

As far as I know, Heinz does not support (economically or otherwise) Kerry.

So by your account, Bush has to go for the good of America.
 

NesuD

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Teresa Heinz has nothing to do with the management of the Heinz company. She does not own it.


I have no love for John Kerry and would love for this story to be true but the facts are as tnitsuj has stated. The extant of there ownership is only that they own some Heinz stock. She is in no way involved with the management of the company. Hell for all I know I might be a stockholder to if one of my mutual funds has the stock in it's portfolio. Also as was pointed out by Digitalism the Heinz company produces and markets products all around the world. It only seems reasonable that the would also produce their products all around the world.
 
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