Internet through Power Lines.....

urbantechie

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My friend on IRC claimed he had it. He said it was called, "Pan Lines". I thought this was still on paper? Anyone have a links or ideas?
 

dkozloski

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This BS stock promotion keeps reappearing. Any competent EE can explain why it won't work.
 

potac

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I read about it about a month ago. It is called PAN (Powerline Area Network) and I think it is supposed to run at 600mbs downstream (not sure upstream). The article I was reading didn't make it sound like it was going to be out this soon though.
 

prontospyder

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Wow...I guess Media Fusion is already beta testing...

I heard the biggest obstacle for them is getting enough funding...none of the telcos want to help them out.
 

dkozloski

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It would be great if this idea could be made to work. Unfortunately you can't overrule laws of nature with an act of congress. The problems of coupling signals across the transformers at the substations, the fact that more and more high voltage transmission lines are HVDC with solid state switching, the wires themselves are open with no EMI shielding, cross-talk between parallel lines, plus all the other noise and garbage you find on powerlines from all the stuff that Joe Blow has plugged in combine to make this more a dream than a practical plan. All the big demonstration projects I have read about in the technical journals have been more amusing that anything else. You can find a lot of testimonials and anecdotal reports but no test data with measured data rates, or professionally conducted trials.
 

BlackFalcon

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prontospyder, surely you didn't mean to write "2.5 GB/sec" that seems a bit out of range for a WAN, did you mean to write 2.5 MB/sec?
 

jacobnero6918

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I saw a bit about this on NBC Nightly News. They did about 6 or 8 months ago though. I'm sure there are cost and technical hurdles in the actually field that are still holding the technology back.
 

HellRaven

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I read a big article about this about 3 months ago. It talked about a company that is trying to go about the powerline internet in a different way. They are trying to "piggy back" the information on the wake of the electrical signals. When electricity goes through a powerline it has a "wake" almost like a boat going through the water. Instead of trying to put information in the electricity they are trying to carry it on the wake. I found it quite interesting. Until we see it in action as a better alternative to current technologies though, it is nothing to anticipate.
 

SSP

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Most servers don't have the bandwidth to transfer at ~298MB/s (2MB maybe).
 

WoundedWallet

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scuze me guys,

something sounds funny to me. On this web page http://www.zonedin.com/mediafusion.zml they are talking about PAN running AT 2.5Gbps. But on the same breath they are saying that cable goes from 0.12 to 2.7Gbps.

Unless I'm totally wrong, 1Gig = 1,000,000Megs, where the site implies that 1Gig = 10,000Megs.

Can someone confirm whether I'm right or not?

If that is so, then this people will probably fail badly. Not only they have a major blunder on their explanation but the other link http://www.mediafusionllc.net/northamerica/main/home.html is full of missing images and looks very amateurish. If I was an investor, I'd ignore these people real easily.

EDIT: These numbers are wrong. 1Gig=1,000Megs
 

WoundedWallet

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Not only that but the Forbes has already upgraded the speed to 2.5GigaBytes/s.

Someone said that knowing a little is way more dangerous than not knowing anything. I think they probably knew Michael Katz from Forbes
 

WoundedWallet

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urbantechie, I'm not talking about bytes or bits. I'm talking about orders of magnitude.

If they say their service is 2.5 Gigwhatever, then they are saying that cable goes to 2.7 Gigwhatever. Which ain't true.
 
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