Interstellar

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Kneedragger

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Watched the movie yesterday and really enjoyed it. A very intense movie and I enjoyed the story. The only thing that kind of raised some questions is the ending. More of the black hole stuff and where Cooper ended up.. It didn't ruin the movie for me but kind of made me go "wtf".
 

Anubis

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Gravity sucked donkey balls outside of the visuals.

I have to agree here. I enjoyed it in the theater but ill prob never watch it again, Interstellar will be a day 1 BR purchase for me.

and as a movie Gravity had/got a hell of a lot more wrong with science and plotholes then Interstellar did
 

Fritzo

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As an astrophysicist, I'm truly impressed with the accuracy of the black hole and time and space dilation. I can't wait to nitpick the accompanying papers to see just how accurate it really is. It is what I've intellectually conceived of it, but there is only so far imagination can visualize without an actual picture/video.

So far the only thing being questioned is a planet being able to orbit a black hole and be illuminated. At first, it was viewed as a mistake, but later it was determined if the black hole were spinning, the matter annihilation would provide light and also provide the means for a stable orbit.
 

Anubis

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the accretion disk is a spinning mass of super heated gasses, it should in theory act very much like a sun and give off Heat/Light

there are issues with this however, because the amount of radiation given off by one would kill pretty much everything in the system
 
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Ns1

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I read the event horizon/relativity/singularity wiki's today and I still have no idea what 98% of that shit is.

This is Nolan's true power.
 

destrekor

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yea Nolan does not do 3D


which is good cause it sucks

Good 3D is good, as in, filmed in 3D and not focusing on gimmicks. If it's simply adding visual dimensions, it's great. I don't want anything flying at me like hokey 3D.
 
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Kev

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Dec 17, 2001
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I liked the movie as far as visuals but the science of it was borderline Doctor Who nonsense.

The whole relativistic effect situation on the large planet really bothered me:

1. Exactly how far from the planet did they leave their base ship where it had 0 relativistic effect from the black hole? It's not like you land on the planet and boom, time starts moving at 1/60,000 its normal rate.

2. Why would they even land on this planet? If they already know that time on that planet moves so much slower, they should have already known that the original explorer has only been there for 2 hours (which they inexplicably only seem to realize after they find the wreckage).


Also, the whole "love transcends the time and space" or whatever the f that was... ugh...
 

Fritzo

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I liked the movie as far as visuals but the science of it was borderline Doctor Who nonsense.

The whole relativistic effect situation on the large planet really bothered me:

1. Exactly how far from the planet did they leave their base ship where it had 0 relativistic effect from the black hole? It's not like you land on the planet and boom, time starts moving at 1/60,000 its normal rate.

2. Why would they even land on this planet? If they already know that time on that planet moves so much slower, they should have already known that the original explorer has only been there for 2 hours (which they inexplicably only seem to realize after they find the wreckage).


Also, the whole "love transcends the time and space" or whatever the f that was... ugh...

It wasn't "boom, time is moving slower", it gradually happened as the ship was put into that environment. Also, time is relative- if everyone moved there, time would seem normal to them. Only people in other areas observing from a distance would notice the slowness of time for the inhabitants. That's how relativity works. If the planet is inhabitable other than the time dilation, there's not really any reason to pass it up.
 

Ichinisan

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So far the only thing being questioned is a planet being able to orbit a black hole and be illuminated. At first, it was viewed as a mistake, but later it was determined if the black hole were spinning, the matter annihilation would provide light and also provide the means for a stable orbit.

I thought the density of the other matter orbiting at incredible speed would generate a lot of light.
 

laerol

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I know it's an unknown, space-time and different dimensions, no science can explain it but that ending... what?

It's hard to explain what i'm confused about.

So matthew goes into the tessaract, finds himself in another dimension, communicates to his daughter in the past by pushing books AND future by manipulating the watch.

and somehow he gets out of the tessaract.

during the time in the tessaract, his daughter aged tons and built a space station on saturn, but anne is still relatively young? time didnt go past as fast as it did for her?

and he still manages to go find her, so how much time passed for anne and matthew's daughter, different times or what, i'm confused.
 

Rage187

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How can there be any humans to build the tessaract way in the future? I mean, they did it to save humans but how did they exist if they were never saved?
 

Rage187

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I know it's an unknown, space-time and different dimensions, no science can explain it but that ending... what?

It's hard to explain what i'm confused about.

So matthew goes into the tessaract, finds himself in another dimension, communicates to his daughter in the past by pushing books AND future by manipulating the watch.

and somehow he gets out of the tessaract.

during the time in the tessaract, his daughter aged tons and built a space station on saturn, but anne is still relatively young? time didnt go past as fast as it did for her?

and he still manages to go find her, so how much time passed for anne and matthew's daughter, different times or what, i'm confused.

Remember, the tessaract was a construct that allowed him to navigate different times likely he was going through a valley or climbing a mountain.

He found time instances he needed to communicate with her and did so.

once the mission was accomplished, they closed the tessaract and returned him to where the wormhole was. Likely right when they knew someone would be there and see him.

Maybe on Edmunds, she doesn't age as much as they did as on Miller and she is still young?

What I can't figure out is, why was he behind the book case? why not in the room so he could write in the dust?
 

destrekor

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How can there be any humans to build the tessaract way in the future? I mean, they did it to save humans but how did they exist if they were never saved?

That's the only thing that actually bothered me.
Nolan loves ambiguity, letting people come to their own conclusions. I don't in the slightest believe there was sloppy writing. Which is to say, there appears to be a temporal loop paradox, wherein to save humanity in the past, the builders of the tesseract and wormhole had to exist in the first place, and they could not exist without the wormhole and tesseract being available to humans and Cooper. Thus, paradox. That said... there's enough unanswered, considering we only know what these characters know, that does not prevent the a paradox-free answer.
One Redditor had a good theory: the higher-dimensional beings are basically our souls, the essence of us that exists on a higher timeless dimension, whereas we are simply the mortal 3D beings they embody. That answers the "love transcends all" nonsense, and their timelessness allowed them to, well, serve themselves by ensuring humanity's survival.
As a good story, we only know what Cooper and gang know, or at least, what they think they understand. All we see is Cooper involved in the temporal loop. Or it could be Nolan's approach to saying infinite "4D" timelines can exist in the higher dimensions, or that time is predestined and has such perfect loops, paradox be damned.
 
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